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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
July 28 2010 04:01 GMT
#21
I bet there's gonna be like 3-4 guys ever getting banned for this just to set an example and after that they just won't care about it anymore.
We make signature, then defense it.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 04:02:32
July 28 2010 04:01 GMT
#22
On July 28 2010 12:55 NuKedUFirst wrote:
This is just silly.. I mean c'mon...

Why allow players to attack allies if they can get banned for it..
"Here is 100million $, If you spend any of it im going to kill you"


Terribad noob with fail-walling skills might require some friendly fire to help out. Charging a voidray or getting interceptor's on a teammate's building is probably better than not attacking anything and losing the battle.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 28 2010 04:03 GMT
#23
Is this only in league matches?
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
July 28 2010 04:03 GMT
#24
I don't mind really. I'm sure this isn't something they're going to be extremely strict about.
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
July 28 2010 04:04 GMT
#25
R.I.P. 7v1c stomp no bs!

The good old days will never be relived...
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Tray
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
July 28 2010 04:04 GMT
#26
On July 28 2010 13:00 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 12:59 Tray wrote:
Yes it's bannable. I got two people banned in beta for doing it. Bad players sometimes get really raged and think that if they kill their teamate and ragequit it'll get back at them somehow. But then they get reported for it and banned. It's a no brainer. Don't backstab your teamates, no matter what.

And yes it requires attack click.


How could you possibly know if they were actually banned?


Because the day after I banned them they never logged in again for weeks? I added them as a friend to see if they would login again and it tells you the last time they logged in.

Pretty simple.

Also backstabbing is subjective. Killing a guy's building strategically is rare, but likely your teamate won't report you. It's pretty easy to tell who's doing it to ruin the game.

Also this is nothing like not 'gg'ing. You don't have a right to ruin the game for your random teamate, sorry. Backstabbing is not a style of play.
Voyager I
Profile Joined July 2010
United States260 Posts
July 28 2010 04:05 GMT
#27
Griefing people may be funny as hell, but don't act surprised if there are consequences for being caught (and given that every match you play is automatically recorded, it's pretty damned easy to get caught).

Oh well. If you really need to fuck with people, there's always FFA and custom games.
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 04:21:48
July 28 2010 04:05 GMT
#28
It' s bannable in war3, it's bannable here. Dont backstab/grief. It's not as simple as damaging a teammate. Blizzard used to review repalys in war3 to see if it was blatant griefing. If you've already killed their base and they only have a floating rax left Blizzard will forgive u if you have fun with ur allies' SCVs.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 28 2010 04:05 GMT
#29
Banning could only occur if you actually turned on your teammate, or it was obvious that you were purposely letting him die and refusing to do anything. Players will still be able to force their team to lose by not building properly, not teching, letting themselves get supply blocked, throw away units and mismicro their armies. Blizzard can't ban you for being a bad player, or 'off your game'.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Dr.Smoke
Profile Joined July 2010
United States64 Posts
July 28 2010 04:17 GMT
#30
Good, diaf loser
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 04:24:22
July 28 2010 04:23 GMT
#31
It's always been a bannable offense, even in SC 1. Besides, BS isn't really fun. It's like saying, dur hur, I can beat you in a race if you give a minute headstart. Of course you can kill someone by backstabbing him. There's no challenge, and more importantly no fun in it.

I do want there to still be melee games that start as FFA, but you can choose to make or break alliances. that was cool in BW, but that game mode was specifically set up for it. Even the enemy computers could ally against you in a melee match, but no one started on teams. That was fun.

But Backstabbing is just pointless. You already have vision, putting a bunch of units in his base and then randomly attacking him isn't fun or challenging in the least. If I use these cheat codes, I can totally beat you! haha, you suck, because I cheated and am therefore somehow better than you . . . . . .
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Dinn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States66 Posts
July 28 2010 04:24 GMT
#32
I thought it backstabbing meant talking bad about someone without them knowing
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
July 28 2010 04:32 GMT
#33
Heh, I've manually backstabbed people before so this is funny to me.

Usually the people who earn it deserve it enough that I wouldn't mind a temp-ban for it.

Some douche in a 3v3 telling me i'm a n00b for going mass carrier instead of Void Rays. Tell that to me +3 weapons upgrade.
peachsncream
Profile Joined April 2010
United States289 Posts
July 28 2010 04:33 GMT
#34
I could argue any random team partner i've ever had was backstabbing me in the fact i've never had a single ally ever around my skill level. I can deal with that, but when they don't even listen, or take any tips it's just a waste of time. IMO, fix the team balancing and people would backstab less. Then again i only solo, so how is the team balancing so far?
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 28 2010 04:35 GMT
#35
I really hope this doesn't apply to custom games
febreze
Profile Joined April 2010
167 Posts
July 28 2010 04:36 GMT
#36
This sets bad precedent.

If this thread becomes popular, I'm expecting much more backstabbing in the weeks to come just to prove a point.
Beauty in truth, deception with dogma, meaning through life.
Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
July 28 2010 04:41 GMT
#37
umm, is backstabbing unallying your ally, then attacking them?

is that possible??

if you can't and attack manually, does that still count??

how does bnet find out?

what if your team mate asked you to blow up some of his units in order to un supply block him?(eg he massed banshees and can't attack himself?)

Blizzard, i know you are watching and listening, please fix this. so few people rage and do this it is sorta an unnecessary rule, and i would hate to be banned from bnet should i be asked to do it by my teamate, in fact when i saw this topic, i thought it was a troll topic, then realized it would be nuked should it be a troll topic.

and while you are at it, don't fix the evil spinning factory rax starport patrol thingy in tlownage, i would be heart broken.

if anything, by outlawing this (imo) is the worst possible thing to do, you bring attention to the topic and many players will be trying this to test the system. i played a crapload of games in the entire beta (about 1000) and i only got raged in this way, guess, ONCE. i learned my lesson, and looked at tl and got better.


Please, please, fix this, this is my complaint and argument

What the Fu- REAPERS?!
Voyager I
Profile Joined July 2010
United States260 Posts
July 28 2010 04:49 GMT
#38
The impression I'm getting is that if you're blatantly trying to ruin the game for your teammate by killing his stuff, he can submit the recording to some sort of authority and action will be taken against you.

Knocking down one Pylon because he got overzealous with a wall-in will not get you banned.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 28 2010 04:53 GMT
#39
On July 28 2010 13:41 Thoreezhea wrote:
what if your team mate asked you to blow up some of his units in order to un supply block him?(eg he massed banshees and can't attack himself?)

Who the hell would waste the resources on banshees and ask their partner to kill them? nobody, that's who. If you wanted to suicide your units, you'd attack the opponent, that way you would get some damage done with it.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Daniri
Profile Joined May 2007
387 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 06:57:05
July 28 2010 06:56 GMT
#40
On July 28 2010 12:47 `Aceku wrote:
Its because, In World of warcraft Arena, People win trade to stack there rank. In 2v2 if you random a partner the other team could try to convince the other player to BStab, Thrust making the non BStabing team more Rating thrust higher rank. Not much since most people dont care about 2v2,3v3,4v4,9000v9000 over 1v1.


No(not even remotely close actually, and you can't random to get rating in arenas), it's because of Starcraft and especially Warcraft 3 where backstabbing is a hobby and a sport.
"you guys are silly lol thats why i hate you people" berserkboar
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