EPTi suppose u guys didn't read the EULA? what made u think u had "rights"?
Backstabbing a bannable offense - Page 3
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
i suppose u guys didn't read the EULA? what made u think u had "rights"? | ||
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Trowabarton756
United States870 Posts
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Gedrah
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fyyer
United States145 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:07 Trowabarton756 wrote: lol this is bull shit. there is no reason to ban someone for this, its a fucking video game, even someone like me who thinks his win record needs to be at least 70% wouldn't give two shits if I lost a few games to backstabb. 9/10 you can tell when they are gonna do it anyways. plus you're ruining a starcraft tradition. Gotta love the ole 7v1 comp no bs, that devolves into a giant game of bs where teams are made and ended in a heart beat. ITS TRADITION AND YOU DON'T FUCK WITH TRADITION! I lol'd, those games were funny. :D | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:07 Trowabarton756 wrote: lol this is bull shit. there is no reason to ban someone for this, its a fucking video game, even someone like me who thinks his win record needs to be at least 70% wouldn't give two shits if I lost a few games to backstabb. 9/10 you can tell when they are gonna do it anyways. plus you're ruining a starcraft tradition. Gotta love the ole 7v1 comp no bs, that devolves into a giant game of bs where teams are made and ended in a heart beat. ITS TRADITION AND YOU DON'T FUCK WITH TRADITION! Yeah, 7v1 comp stomps were awesome for that reason alone. | ||
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Gedrah
465 Posts
On July 28 2010 13:04 Tray wrote: Because the day after I banned them they never logged in again for weeks? I added them as a friend to see if they would login again and it tells you the last time they logged in. Pretty simple. Also backstabbing is subjective. Killing a guy's building strategically is rare, but likely your teamate won't report you. It's pretty easy to tell who's doing it to ruin the game. Also this is nothing like not 'gg'ing. You don't have a right to ruin the game for your random teamate, sorry. Backstabbing is not a style of play. I don't mean to sound confrontational or aggressive, but I probably will. I apologize. I don't believe you got people banned. It's very easy to say you did such a thing and to name your method for determining your success, but I don't believe many people got banned from beta for any reason. I played throughout beta with the name FIREDlCK in all caps (one of the Is was a lowercase L so it passed the swear filter) and dragged out games, used obnoxious builds, asked subtly grating questions of my opponents at frustrating moments in the game (for them), cursed, made dick and fart jokes (and perhaps worse), and probably overall caused a lot of butt-hurt. Over a dozen people claimed to have reported me, often amidst further cursing and overt signs that they had become very angry with me. I didn't get banned as a result of any of their actions. Maybe they thought I did get banned, because I suddenly decided to play Dungeon Siege 2 for a week and didn't log on beta. But I was never banned. Am I lucky, or did they not actually ban many people from beta regardless of what they did? I only say "many" instead of "any" because I do know one guy that was actually banned from beta, but god only knows what he did or said to people to earn it. He's the type to drop N-bombs when getting rushed and worse. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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nitdkim
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ExoCorsair
United States48 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:24 nitdkim wrote: just have option of "lock alliances" That's a good idea. Where'd you get that one from? | ||
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Gedrah
465 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:22 Klogon wrote: They just want some legitimacy to their ladder. If TL.net was running a 2v2 ladder and you were going off and backstabbing partners, I would ban you too You'd be 100% correct to do it. Again, it's just the fear of false positives that gives me pause here. I get really amped up and sometimes I shoot a bitch. I remember the only 2v2 random game I played I mistakenly target fired a marauder of my teammate and he may as well have left the game at that point, because he utterly stopped trying and completely focused on that event and spent in excess of a minute bitching about it. That could have been 40+ actions even if he was a mediocre player (he was better than I am, up until that happened). (I almost always a-click instead of right-click...It can happen) | ||
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Manbear
Canada306 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:01 dybydx wrote: :p i suppose u guys didn't read the EULA? what made u think u had "rights"? This made me laugh really hard as when I read it I pictured I guy from blizzard with a monocle and a suit. | ||
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fyyer
United States145 Posts
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phlamez
United States96 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:42 fyyer wrote: I just wonder how they're going to enforce it. I was playing in a 4v4 and my allies and I were going to all group up on the north side, but one ally at that closest point was terran and wouldn't lower his depots to let me out, so after about 15 seconds of trying to tell him to lower them I destroyed one to get out. Whoever makes the decision what is backstabbing and what isn't better be on his A-game if peoples access is going to be removed. The whole idea sounds bad though if its up to a humans decision. You don't need to be on your A-game to recognize what is backstabbing and what isn't, any one of us posting in this thread could easily do the job. It's obviously not backstabbing if you misclick, or if you are destroying a building to prevent being walled in, you obviously are backstabbing if you go and kill your allies base. I'm fairly sure with bans that they will defer to abuse that is beyond a reasonable doubt that the intent is malicious. Also a humans decision on questions like this are much better than any alternative, do you think a computer is able to distinguish between strategic or accidental killing of an allied unit vs a malicious killing out of spite? Blizz employers are oft incompetent but they aren't mentally handicapped, everyone is freaking out over nothing. | ||
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fyyer
United States145 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:52 phlamez wrote: You don't need to be on your A-game to recognize what is backstabbing and what isn't, any one of us posting in this thread could easily do the job. It's obviously not backstabbing if you misclick, or if you are destroying a building to prevent being walled in, you obviously are backstabbing if you go and kill your allies base. I'm fairly sure with bans that they will defer to abuse that is beyond a reasonable doubt that the intent is malicious. Also a humans decision on questions like this are much better than any alternative, do you think a computer is able to distinguish between strategic or accidental killing of an allied unit vs a malicious killing out of spite? Blizz employers are oft incompetent but they aren't mentally handicapped, everyone is freaking out over nothing. I can see it getting dirty though. 2 guys get into an arguement and one starts destroying the others base, then the other starts destroying his base. Do you ban both of them? Just the guy that started it? What about the newbie who thinks he's helping his allies out by building in their base while not helping himself and you destroy his shit and tell him to just play normally in his own base? Or the Zerg player who passively backstabs by building a bunch of hatcheries everywhere so you have no room to build (this actually happened to me a few times in beta). Or an arguement over expansions, and one guy turns to destroys his allies expansion because his worker got there first, but didn't have the minerals. It's not the best examples but you get the point. Yes obviously if you're in a 4v4 and one guy sits quiet and immediately turns on his 3 allies with 20 BC's it's pretty obvious what you do. I think there's more potential problems than it fixes. | ||
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TheCookie
United Arab Emirates34 Posts
/Problem Solved Edit: Or even specifically select which teammates you allow to attack your own units, for 3v3 and 4v4 matches. | ||
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Gedrah
465 Posts
Thecookie, since half the reason to attack your teammate's stuff is when he refuses to lower a depot or builds in your base, requiring his permission to attack his stuff defeats the entire purpose. | ||
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Meff
Italy287 Posts
Does anybody know if a ban removes somebody's ability to play single-player, by the way? Or custom with their friends? If so, another reason to dislike Battle-Net 2.0. | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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