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On July 29 2010 01:03 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 00:57 Limenade wrote:
woot i love the fact that blizz is taking this stance they absolutely should ban backstabbers, it ruins the game and if u r gonna ruin the game then u deserve to get banned ^.^ You...are joking right? I don't know how anybody can actually believe that backstabbing is a bannable offense. This is not WoW.
This has been in place long before even WoW came along. Backstabbing in custom games isn't going to be a problem, but when you go into a ladder match, and you're supposed to work as a team, backstabbing to lower your ranking and disrupt your teammate should definitely score you a ban. Blizzard wants the ladder system to be genuine, and keeping out people that purposely lower their own score is a great way to do that.
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I also think they should add bans to players who stay in games for too long. As in floating CC's to the corner of maps. I've had that happen about 4 times already, and it's the most annoying thing in the world.
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On July 29 2010 01:19 zomgtossrush wrote:
I also think they should add bans to players who stay in games for too long. As in floating CC's to the corner of maps. I've had that happen about 4 times already, and it's the most annoying thing in the world.
yep, if they're banning for griefing, and this can definitely be a form of griefing, then if they want to be consistent, they have to ban for this as well.
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Uhoh, it begins with backstabbing, then cheesing, then fast expanding, I hope they don't continue the implementation of overbearing rules. (Do they IP ban, or can I use my guest passes for backstabbing? Hehe)
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Actually, this seems pretty necessary for a random team ladder to work. There is no way for the community to make a list of "known backstabbers" and avoid them, or anything like that, so it makes sense to me.
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On July 29 2010 01:26 Ichabod wrote:
Uhoh, it begins with backstabbing, then cheesing, then fast expanding, I hope they don't continue the implementation of overbearing rules. (Do they IP ban, or can I use my guest passes for backstabbing? Hehe)
mmm... cheesing and FEing are strats aimed toward winning. the only purpose backstabbing serves is to detract from the gameplay
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On July 29 2010 01:24 Win.win wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 01:19 zomgtossrush wrote:
I also think they should add bans to players who stay in games for too long. As in floating CC's to the corner of maps. I've had that happen about 4 times already, and it's the most annoying thing in the world. yep, if they're banning for griefing, and this can definitely be a form of griefing, then if they want to be consistent, they have to ban for this as well.
Then I want to ban zerg players who can creep my natural with OLS because if they're banning for griefing, and this can definitely be a form of griefing, then if they want to be consistent, they have to ban for this as well.
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I have a crawler collecting player data and noticed that several accounts have disappeared. Wonder if they got banned. If you get banned, does your profile page no longer exist?
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When I ventured into War3 4v4-land, pretty much every other game had some team-mate TP into your base and A-click your main. Annoying at the moment, sure, but funny as hell in retrospect. I suppose it's to appease certain players so they don't lose anyone, but I'm feeling that going "what the shit..why are you attacking me" every once in a while is a part of the culture.
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Big Blizzard is watching you.
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Why can you attack a teammate if you're not supposed to do it?
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On July 29 2010 01:32 EppE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 01:24 Win.win wrote:On July 29 2010 01:19 zomgtossrush wrote:
I also think they should add bans to players who stay in games for too long. As in floating CC's to the corner of maps. I've had that happen about 4 times already, and it's the most annoying thing in the world. yep, if they're banning for griefing, and this can definitely be a form of griefing, then if they want to be consistent, they have to ban for this as well. Then I want to ban zerg players who can creep my natural with OLS because if they're banning for griefing, and this can definitely be a form of griefing, then if they want to be consistent, they have to ban for this as well.
if the zerg player is your teammate, then yeah. otherwise you're mixing the traditional definition of griefing with sc2's definition of harassment. harassment in sc2 serves a purpose, to distract your opponent and to help you win the game; spitting creep on your opponent's base is an example of this. floating buildings to a corner of a map in order to prolong the game, with no chance of winning, is an example of griefing: abusing the game in a way the developers don't want you to by purposely detracting from gameplay
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On July 29 2010 01:41 Xanrae wrote:
Why can you attack a teammate if you're not supposed to do it?
one instance it would come in handy is if you walled in your ramp with gateways and your teammate needs to get through
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This is a funny thread 
I agree with Nazgul, and not only does backstabbing detract from the gameplay, but it messes up the ladder by screwing up ratings -> which means it messes up the AMM.
If you're a bronze player, do you want to be matched up against a plat player who just happened to lose a lot because he had backstabber teammates? Of course not.
Edit: or even worse, imagine if you did your placement matches and lost 2 because of backstabbers. That's like guaranteed silver placement -_-
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Backstab
After the enemy moves out from his base to attack, send your force behind him to attack his enemy's lightly defended base.
-Liquipedia
I think someone has their definitions wrong.
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On July 28 2010 12:55 NuKedUFirst wrote:
This is just silly.. I mean c'mon...
Why allow players to attack allies if they can get banned for it..
"Here is 100million $, If you spend any of it im going to kill you"
LMAO best quote in the thread
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lol iono how they can ban for it when david kim himself was caught in action Backstabbing
Proof
DavidKim Backstab
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They make the rules, we obey...
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Guess people will have to go for the creative backstabs now, the plain killing your allies has always been a bit bland.
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EPT
