On July 29 2010 02:59 Grebliv wrote:
Guess people will have to go for the creative backstabs now, the plain killing your allies has always been a bit bland.

I think making ultralisks should count :p

Kal_rA

United States2925 Posts

July 28 2010 18:15 GMT

#122

On July 29 2010 00:57 Limenade wrote:
woot i love the fact that blizz is taking this stance they absolutely should ban backstabbers, it ruins the game and if u r gonna ruin the game then u deserve to get banned ^.^

idk what your on but backstabbing is pretty fun haha
specially in bw... taking a break from ic and going to west to screw around with a couple friends.... play some fastest or bgh and if the game is boring/is an easy win you backstab to make it more interesting... its fun between friends at least... i generally ally up at the end anyway haha

i understand stopping it for laddering reasons.. but its still fun to do when your not playing seriously

also backstabbing if your teammate is an imbecile or an idiot should be allowed... even in laddering

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

July 28 2010 18:31 GMT

#123

On July 28 2010 17:26 fyyer wrote:

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I'd love it if people who OBVIOUSLY backstabbed were banned. Like the kids in WC3 who build a bunch of peasents, turned them into militia and town portaled to an ally to attack his base. Or the Starcraft backstabber who in a 3v3 noticed that just before they killed the opposing team he's much stronger than his allies and decides for the fun of it to unally and kill them too. But other than that there's potential problems.

Player 1: "I'm taking this expansion."
Player 2: "No you're not, I was there first."
Player 1: "You didn't build it in time so it's mine, sorry."
Player 2: *destroys his allies expansion* "I was there first." *starts building expansion*
Player 1 leaves the game and reports his ally for backstabbing.

There's so many grey areas that unless Blizzard ignores them all and only bans the obvious backstabbers I think it will cause problems. Read my other examples

I like the idea otherwise

In your example it is clear that player 2 is backstabbing imo. Player 2 needs to just grow the fuck up and build at a new expo.

Ownos

United States2147 Posts

July 28 2010 18:37 GMT

#124

On July 28 2010 18:31 Bosu wrote:

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How do players police this exactly?

Report button.

thOr6136

Slovenia1775 Posts

July 28 2010 18:39 GMT

#125

On July 28 2010 12:37 ramen247 wrote:
LOLWTF>?

at first i thought backstabbing in terms of like countering an opponents base

lol hahaha, it was same for me, i was like WTF?!

i guess ywe play too much dota

? (at least back in days)

Iranon

United States983 Posts

July 28 2010 18:53 GMT

#126

While I'm skeptical of how well Blizzard can reasonably police this and investigate every time someone is reported, this is probably the best way to do it... Just making it impossible to un-ally doesn't work, since you can still A-click allied units. And making it so you can't A-click allied units is silly, since then you wouldn't be able to, say, kill that building of yours that's not doing anything anymore except making it hard to move around in your base. And even if they made it so you could A-click your own units but not your allies', you could still pull shenanigans like throwing manner pylons in all your allies mineral lines... Sigh. It's tough work, trying to make sure people don't play like dicks.

hofodomo

United States257 Posts

July 28 2010 19:01 GMT

#127

On July 29 2010 02:59 Grebliv wrote:
Guess people will have to go for the creative backstabs now, the plain killing your allies has always been a bit bland.

"Guys, it wasn't me, it was the splash--I swear!"

Skeyser

Canada219 Posts

July 28 2010 19:12 GMT

#128

You have to be lame as fuck to join a random ladder match and backstab your partner, I don't know why anyone would complain about Blizzard's decision of making it bannable.

SexyBimbo

Germany89 Posts

July 30 2010 03:05 GMT

#129

As far as I am concerned they can ban the account as long as they give a warning first, no problem.

I did backstab a random guy and I don't wanna get a permanent ban for 1 single game that happened to be a random 4v4 I didnt give a shit about. Also I apologized to the guy because he claimed 4v4 was very serious business to him and it was his placement... Kinda funny, then again if he did really report me it is pretty ridiculous to get a permanent ban if one did it only 1 time. People who regularly do it deserve no better but I think everybody should get at least a 2nd chance to learn his lesson! >.<

Obviously I dont wanna get banned

Santriell

Belgium151 Posts

July 30 2010 03:08 GMT

#130

In before bad players start getting reported as "backstabbers" and another shitstorm hits the fan of Blizzvizions HQ...

TheAngelofDeath

United States2033 Posts

July 30 2010 03:10 GMT

#131

Blizz can ban whoever they want. They're Blizz, if they think we need a ban, then we get banned.

Ramsing

Canada233 Posts

July 30 2010 03:38 GMT

#132

Is there any end to Blizzard's idiotic policies? Honestly, I'm tempted to start listing them off but at this point there's just too damned many.

0mgVitaminE

United States1278 Posts

July 30 2010 03:59 GMT

#133

On July 28 2010 19:02 Monoxide wrote:

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I don't quite understand how players can police this.

Shiny cars with lights that freak the shit out of you if they're close.

Gedrah

465 Posts

July 30 2010 06:21 GMT

#134

I preface: The ladder is one thing. Whatever you all want done with the ladder is your business, and if people are backstabbing on the ladder they should be banned from the ladder, it's really a form of cheating the ELO system at that point.

However, generally, I have a lot of contempt for anyone who thinks the solution to their problems is to cry to an overseeing entity and have the Blizzard cyber-police save them from their horrible tormentors. So many of you never left kindergarten. You want to resolve your problems by having your Blizzard Mommy to protect you. When you have a problem with another player, just tell on him, and mommy will protect you by giving them a time-out. Grow up and deal with it like an adult, realize it's just a game of Starcraft, and it can be very fun to deviate from the textbook black-and-white goal of "building units and economy to kill the opponent." Someone pissed you off? Block communication, keep a blacklist or a death note or whatever you do, don't stay in a custom game if such a one is present.

Please, don't share or pursue your desire for a more police-oriented gaming experience. There's nothing fun about that idea. This is a video game and sometimes players would rather do silly, disruptive things, and if you're going to rage and let it ruin your day... maybe you ought to be doing something else. Don't forget that instead of getting angry, you can leave the situation with no consequences (we're not discussing the ladder here, remember!) Getting people banned for shenanigans like this outside the ladder is just heartless and dickless, so to speak. It's not justice, and if you crave the feeling you get from fucking someone's account over then you're sick.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

July 30 2010 06:35 GMT

#135

lol, instead of backstabbing people every time i lose a 2v2 im going to report my teammate.

Evolve

Canada63 Posts

July 30 2010 08:47 GMT

#136

Wtf? why have un-allying an option if its bannable?
DONT PRESS THIS BUTTON, OR WE BAN U ;;;

Melancholia

United States717 Posts

July 30 2010 08:58 GMT

#137

Am I supposed to feel bad for the jackasses who're complaining about not being allowed to backstab? Cause I sure as hell don't.

sikyon

Canada1045 Posts

July 30 2010 11:24 GMT

#138

In league games this is a great rule. Imagine it like being banned if were playing a soccer match and decided to start kicking the ball in your own net

Zironic

Sweden341 Posts

July 30 2010 11:27 GMT

#139

his is a video game and sometimes players would rather do silly, disruptive things, and if you're going to rage and let it ruin your day...

Isn't that what custom games are for?

Wtf? why have un-allying an option if its bannable?
DONT PRESS THIS BUTTON, OR WE BAN U ;;;

You can't unally in RT games to my knowledge.

Lennon

United Kingdom2275 Posts

July 30 2010 11:30 GMT

#140