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fyyer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 08:28:13
July 28 2010 08:26 GMT
#61
On July 28 2010 17:19 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I like this rule. A lot of you guys are just being nostalgic for the sake of being nostalgic. Objectively if Blizzard is capable of avoiding it, backstabbing should have no place on battle.net.


I'd love it if people who OBVIOUSLY backstabbed were banned. Like the kids in WC3 who build a bunch of peasents, turned them into militia and town portaled to an ally to attack his base. Or the Starcraft backstabber who in a 3v3 noticed that just before they killed the opposing team he's much stronger than his allies and decides for the fun of it to unally and kill them too. But other than that there's potential problems.

Player 1: "I'm taking this expansion."
Player 2: "No you're not, I was there first."
Player 1: "You didn't build it in time so it's mine, sorry."
Player 2: *destroys his allies expansion* "I was there first." *starts building expansion*
Player 1 leaves the game and reports his ally for backstabbing.

There's so many grey areas that unless Blizzard ignores them all and only bans the obvious backstabbers I think it will cause problems. Read my other examples

I like the idea otherwise
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
July 28 2010 08:27 GMT
#62
I didn't expect this as there is no monthly fees like wow.
chuninexam
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada56 Posts
July 28 2010 08:33 GMT
#63
I'm okay with this. Sometimes when I was random 4v4ing allies would just team up and worker rush me right off the start. And I am happy with these people being banned.
roemy
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany432 Posts
July 28 2010 08:44 GMT
#64
hummm i've A-moved so many times on my own units... i'm sure i've done it to an ally's unit a couple of times, too

how endangered am i..?
rock is fine.. paper could need a buff, but scissors have to be nerfed
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 08:50:04
July 28 2010 08:48 GMT
#65
How is this a surprise to anyone? Blizzard bans people all the time since ever? Honestly, I don't have much sympathy for you if you're crying over not being able to be a dick online.

Edit: I'm pretty sure they review the replay. No need to speculate over ridiculous hypothetical situations.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
July 28 2010 08:54 GMT
#66
So uh, if its in a custom (non-ranked) game, and you backstab, would it still be a bannable offense? I mean, politics in BGH is half of why its so fun.
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GreenFantastic
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada78 Posts
July 28 2010 08:56 GMT
#67
Hopefully you'll only have to do something huge, like HEAVY USAGE of hacking for laddering, to me outright, completely and forever banned from battle.net without setting up a whole new account and buying the game again. I was one of those 10 year old who got banned for using hacks on WC3 in custom games for fun and name colouring, but now that you can't make new ids with the same key, hopefully they will be more lenient on the bans.
Chill-leader Set plz
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 28 2010 08:59 GMT
#68
On July 28 2010 17:56 GreenFantastic wrote:
Hopefully you'll only have to do something huge, like HEAVY USAGE of hacking for laddering, to me outright, completely and forever banned from battle.net without setting up a whole new account and buying the game again. I was one of those 10 year old who got banned for using hacks on WC3 in custom games for fun and name colouring, but now that you can't make new ids with the same key, hopefully they will be more lenient on the bans.


I'm sure they'll only temp ban you, perma ban for repeat offenses or more serious offenses (blatant cheat, etc.).
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 28 2010 09:02 GMT
#69
I used to back-stab.

When I was 12. I won't miss it.
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ZCfos~DangerBoy
Profile Joined August 2009
57 Posts
July 28 2010 09:11 GMT
#70
Does someone really care that much about backstabbing? I mean, it doesnt happen that often.

I once happened to backstab my ally who was, despite being with only one building left in the game, constantly badmouthing my playstyle. Since i didnt want to listen to someone insulting me without an end i killed of his remaining building.

I think i did a noble act which should be honored with an achievement. Lets call it the "You too, Brutus" achievement.
hahaha...ha..ha
AxeX1606
Profile Joined July 2010
United States39 Posts
July 28 2010 09:18 GMT
#71
This would be a bad thing, except for a few things:

1 - alot of people don't take team games seriously.

2 - Those that do, do so in an arranged team, not random where BS'ing is most likely to happen.

Basically all this does is make RT'ing a bit more hospitable (I hope) because nobody wants to get banned.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 09:30:49
July 28 2010 09:20 GMT
#72
On July 28 2010 17:26 fyyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 17:19 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I like this rule. A lot of you guys are just being nostalgic for the sake of being nostalgic. Objectively if Blizzard is capable of avoiding it, backstabbing should have no place on battle.net.


I'd love it if people who OBVIOUSLY backstabbed were banned. Like the kids in WC3 who build a bunch of peasents, turned them into militia and town portaled to an ally to attack his base. Or the Starcraft backstabber who in a 3v3 noticed that just before they killed the opposing team he's much stronger than his allies and decides for the fun of it to unally and kill them too. But other than that there's potential problems.

Player 1: "I'm taking this expansion."
Player 2: "No you're not, I was there first."
Player 1: "You didn't build it in time so it's mine, sorry."
Player 2: *destroys his allies expansion* "I was there first." *starts building expansion*
Player 1 leaves the game and reports his ally for backstabbing.

There's so many grey areas that unless Blizzard ignores them all and only bans the obvious backstabbers I think it will cause problems. Read my other examples

I like the idea otherwise


Temp ban them both.They sound like they need to cool off anyway.

You'd have to do something really serious to get perm ban like have a bunch of repeat offenses for backstabbing or doing a whole lot of win trading to the point it's very noticeable, though the lack of information you get off the sc2 website would still make an allegation like that it hard to prove unless you were an employee.
There's no S in KT. :P
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 28 2010 09:26 GMT
#73
Players should police this, not blizzard. what the hell.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
July 28 2010 09:31 GMT
#74
On July 28 2010 18:26 Serpico wrote:
Players should police this, not blizzard. what the hell.


How do players police this exactly?

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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
July 28 2010 09:44 GMT
#75
What I don't like is how you could quite easily provoke someone into bsing you and then have him reported. By walling in your ally for example, or taking both expos in twilight and so on. The availability of backstabbing is a way to keep your ally honest: "play fairly or else" but now that means you will get punished for punishing his idiocy. And it will not be possible to ban people for being "bad" strategists, as people have to be able to try new things and so on.
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FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
July 28 2010 09:47 GMT
#76
sounds fair...
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
July 28 2010 09:50 GMT
#77
I'm happy with it.

Used to happen to me alot in BW and pissed me off so much.
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RA
Profile Joined October 2008
Latvia791 Posts
July 28 2010 09:54 GMT
#78
On July 28 2010 12:35 zyzski wrote:
Blizzard can do anything to your account without reason, I wouldn't worry about it much.


A normal person would worry about it, because then you know what you can and what can't do. To make sure you don't step over the line unnecessary.

What Blizzard can do with your account - that shouldn't be of concern, true.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
July 28 2010 09:56 GMT
#79
On July 28 2010 18:31 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 18:26 Serpico wrote:
Players should police this, not blizzard. what the hell.


How do players police this exactly?



Stop acting like idiots and play the game like you are supposed to.
There's no S in KT. :P
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
July 28 2010 09:58 GMT
#80
This seems pointless and slightly retarded. Sure killing your ally is likely to screw your ally over, but so is leaving... or going AFK... or just sucking terribly

I'll tolerate this if Blizzard starts banning the terrible people I end up teamed with.
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