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The Best and Worst Race - Page 7
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Zerg Worst. I sympathize with people saying Terran is the strongest.However, I've seen Toss with some really brilliant ways to break Terran Mech Turtles. Immo's leading, Blinking onto Tanks to share splash damage, and storming all at once. Maybe I lucked out and played someone like White-rA or Huk or NonY... but even durring the game I sad- "LOL dude that was fucking sweet." To me, it seems that Protoss has the most options for dealing with the most situations and also for causing the most trouble for an opponent. Conversely, Zerg has the least of said options. | ||
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Grend
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
Fwiw i voted terran at the top and zerg at the bottom, but, right now, i don't think any balance changes are needed, i think new maps can easily shift the balance in either one of the three races favours, and I'd much prefer blizzard to go down the 'changing the maps' balance path, rather than continuing to try to balance the game on these crappy ones =[ | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On July 20 2010 17:35 Grend wrote: I feel like such a baller for having made the switch to zerg fulltime As well you should! When Beta first came out, it was pretty much the consensus that Terran was the weakest, and I was working up the divisions with them. Question is- are you gonna change if one day Zerg is considered the easiest? | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On July 20 2010 17:38 Ftrunkz wrote: I think the only reason terran is so high is cos of how badly designed the maps are at the moment. Fwiw i voted terran at the top and zerg at the bottom, but, right now, i don't think any balance changes are needed, i think new maps can easily shift the balance in either one of the three races favours, and I'd much prefer blizzard to go down the 'changing the maps' balance path, rather than continuing to try to balance the game on these crappy ones =[ The maps are FULL of tight passageways- narrow spaces and easily defensible naturals. Not to even MENTION places to stash Tanks and Thors... Some of the more wide open maps that were designed to emulate BW maps (Destination, Python, Fighting Spirit, Heartbreak) definitely lead to changes in gameplay among my friends. It was actually very interesting. Though I hated Destination in BW, it made things REALLY interesting for SC2 there towards the end of Phase 2. Map was HUGE. The Blizzard ones seem to be little Terran sized blenders. | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
And ultralisk? You gotta be fking joking. Zerg just doesn't have the abilities and unit combos to meet the armies of the Toss and Terr. Zerg is not the WORST, just the most underdeveloped and unoriginal army in the game. Blizz needs to think about revamping the zerg unit list. | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
But like I said, I can't call terran overpowered. I just wouldn't mind terran actually having to put effort into their wins. | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
dunno if T is the strongest but atm it def feels the most complete. versatile army,answer for all problems ,way to punish greedy/stupid plays by the enemy etc. but i def dont think T needs a nerf. if anything bring Z onpar. while Z is my 2nd best race(t best) its def the most boring to play. other then that i somehow had the feeling that in p2 the playstyles rather went to worse instead of beeing smarter. while at the end of p1 i saw quite some decent games in p2 evry P would just throw a Allin 4-5gate/voidray/collosus at me and once defended insta leave. all Ts were either trying to do a mm allin or turtle with mass tank/turret for 30 minutes. all Z were trying to baneling bust or do a roach burrow etc. dunno if i just had a weird streak of opponents in my 200 p2 games or i remember it wrong but thats the impression i got. | ||
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tarsier
United Kingdom223 Posts
the potential is there - nydus worm, mutalisk vs mech, burrowed infestor, ultralisk vs mech, contaminate, offensive spinecrawler, burrowed roach. imo people just want an easy win. they play zerg because in theory they should be able to win by making a 1a2a swarm of speedlings, banelings or roach, hydra. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On July 20 2010 17:59 Bibbit wrote: I'm actually pretty hesitant to call Terran overpowered (as a zerg player). They're definitely possible to beat without anything gimmicky or whatever. At the same time, I sometimes feel that I need to be a lot better than the terran player to win. But like I said, I can't call terran overpowered. I just wouldn't mind terran actually having to put effort into their wins. Thanks for being reasonable  | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10707 Posts
Zerg feels like a Starcraft race. Toss is inbetween. | ||
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Necrosjef
United Kingdom530 Posts
At the moment a semi-decent Terran player is pretty much unstoppable against all but the best Protoss and Zerg players. Zerg inparticular have it espicially hard versus Terran, Let me explain why: 1. Tanks, just a joke really how there is no counter to these units from Zerg ground. Even burrowed roaches unburrowing in amongst a bunch of siege mode tanks usually lose as they all die after 1 shot. Tanks 1 hit kill pretty much everything else. 2. Anti-Air. Thors, Marines, Missile Turrets and Vikings, every single one of them is too cheap and does the job far too well. Not to mention Thors, Marines and Vikings utterly rape units on ground too. 3. MULEs. Another broken mechanic, the only redeemable feature that really made Terran acceptable in SC1 is that they typically had much less money than Protoss and Zerg as it was much more difficult to expand. In SC2 Terran don't even need to expand and can comfortably out produce you with 1 base vs 3-4 bases as Zerg. When Terran run out of money at home they simply move all the defence to an expansion and begin mining from 1 base again until they beat you. Summing up. Terran are totally and utterly broken. Actually alot of players I know who were expecting SC2 to be 'the greatest RTS ever' have simply decided not to buy it upon release and wait for expansions purely because of the balance issues with the game and Blizzards seeming blind ignorance to how broken their product is. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On July 20 2010 20:09 Necrosjef wrote: Anyone who thinks the game is balanced is quite frankly an idiot. Infact imo it was more balanced at the beginning of beta than it is now. At the moment a semi-decent Terran player is pretty much unstoppable against all but the best Protoss and Zerg players. Zerg inparticular have it espicially hard versus Terran, Let me explain why: 1. Tanks, just a joke really how there is no counter to these units from Zerg ground. Even burrowed roaches unburrowing in amongst a bunch of siege mode tanks usually lose as they all die after 1 shot. Tanks 1 hit kill pretty much everything else. 2. Anti-Air. Thors, Marines, Missile Turrets and Vikings, every single one of them is too cheap and does the job far too well. Not to mention Thors, Marines and Vikings utterly rape units on ground too. 3. MULEs. Another broken mechanic, the only redeemable feature that really made Terran acceptable in SC1 is that they typically had much less money than Protoss and Zerg as it was much more difficult to expand. In SC2 Terran don't even need to expand and can comfortably out produce you with 1 base vs 3-4 bases as Zerg. When Terran run out of money at home they simply move all the defence to an expansion and begin mining from 1 base again until they beat you. Summing up. Terran are totally and utterly broken. Actually alot of players I know who were expecting SC2 to be 'the greatest RTS ever' have simply decided not to buy it upon release and wait for expansions purely because of the balance issues with the game and Blizzards seeming blind ignorance to how broken their product is. Hello there, cutie-pie, aren't you the little zerg version of Azure-eye? I highlighted things that have no basis in reality, wanna add something? :> | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
though I don't think the imbalance is very large at all. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
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Necrosjef
United Kingdom530 Posts
On July 20 2010 20:20 Sadistx wrote: Hello there, cutie-pie, aren't you the little zerg version of Azure-eye? I highlighted things that have no basis in reality, wanna add something? :> Hi there cutie-pie I highlighted things that have no basis in reality, wanna add something? | ||
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