I've got a simple 101 key keyboard and a 2 button mouse, i believe anything involving macro buttons is unfair and should be banned. However rebinding is fine, because anybody should be able to do it.

cloudJR

United States266 Posts

July 04 2010 16:52 GMT

#62

Also I've had a G13 for less than a month for other games. It's nice when your wrists bother you from typing for long periods of time, but using it to play SC2 is almost impossible. There just aren't enough buttons. I've uploaded my pics from my SC2 notebook (yeah I have a notebook lol) of my crappy setup on it. I setup the joystick as the directional keys to scan the screen easier.

http://s868.photobucket.com/albums/ab243/cloudJR/?action=view&current=2010-07-0412-45-39055.jpg#!oZZ1QQcurrentZZhttp://s868.photobucket.com/albums/ab243/cloudJR/?action=view&current=2010-07-0412-45-39055.jpg&

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

July 04 2010 16:53 GMT

#63

Through the second 100 Votes, the Poll was showing a tendency like the first time:

60% of the people would Not allow using GamePads at Tournaments at all !

40% of the people would Allow using GamePads at Tournaments !
-------- (25% of them even with Macros, and 15% without Macros) --------

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

July 08 2010 08:53 GMT

#64

It seems like the Beta's Second part gonna start Today !!!

I hope I will get further, than Gold League now.
(Gamepads don't choose the right Strategies for you !!!

)

Have FuN for everyone !

DarQraven

Netherlands553 Posts

July 08 2010 10:25 GMT

#65

I think gamepads should be allowed, definitely, once again with the provision that one keypress = one keypress.

The problem, however, starts when you want to enforce this rule. If people are bringing all kinds of exotic input devices to a LAN tourney and using their own keymaps, how are you ever going to check no one is using macros?

For keyboards it's relatively simple to spot. Just watch if what their fingers do on the keyboard matches what happens on the screen. With these odd devices, however? Not so sure.

I think it should be fair game to use them in environments like these, but I can't really see it happening anytime soon. Not unless you're playing on controlled systems and the device in question doesn't have any internal settings memory (that would allow you to use macros even without drivers/config software installed)

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

July 10 2010 10:21 GMT

#66

Waiting... Waiting... Waiting...
Maybe the Poll hits 250 Votes, while the EU Servers are getting up again.

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

July 28 2010 09:02 GMT

#67

Hotkeys Can Not be Modified in the Final version !!! Surprise from Blizzard =/
I don't know how could they Release the Game without that feature...
I hope we will get the SC2Tools for the Released version too Really Soon =)

Thaddaeus

Germany107 Posts

July 28 2010 09:12 GMT

#68

though i like new hardware and fancy stuff (and spending money on it) i dont have any gamepad.

Honestly its like bringing a Gun to a Knife fight. Nothing fair cool or honest with it.

Besides that such a Device usually takes over large chunks of the game for you (ok, mostly the macro shit here). Im not eager to get games which i dont play by myself for 100%.

If you have no skill etc. you can have a Gamepad of course to keep the pace with the others xD

Ghad

Norway2551 Posts

July 28 2010 09:18 GMT

#69

I don't mind people using gaming keyboards, but I wouldnt like to see macroed combinations, a key click should be a key click.

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

August 04 2010 20:51 GMT

#70

EU Server makes us Wait... =/
I hope at least the Poll gonna reach 300+ Votes during this.

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

August 12 2010 18:07 GMT

#71

I've just red it on a Tournament's page, that you can use your Keyboard and Mouse at it.
I hope that for example a G13 is not "illegal" this way, cause today's Special-Keyboards do like the same things. You can even use macros with them (that I specially think is Useless in StarCraft II)

SteelSeries - Merc Stealth

Logitech - G19

Logitech - G510

Logitech - G13

Belkin - n52Te

Tactical Board

(Finally I could attach Pictures in Post =)

Moves

United States35 Posts

August 30 2010 02:07 GMT

#72

Are Gamepads like the G13 considered illegal if I were to go play an MLG event? Not that I will get to, but one can dream. I understand about scripting, but what is the official word? I use it for the comfort factor, and if you have looked into one the bindings are pretty much similar to utilizing a keyboard except it puts your hand in a more ergonomic layout. I am honestly toying with going back to a keyboard because I think I am actually quicker on a keyboard, but I would prefer to use gamepad like the G13 if I can get as good as with a keyboard.

Also, the only advantage I possibly see is the joystick being utilized to adjust screen location, and it is arguably neglible as I have been teaching myself to utilize minimap for screen adjustment. Otherwise, the game pad is essentially a keyboard as long as you arent macro scripting.

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

August 30 2010 02:23 GMT

#73

i dont know why people think macros give someone an advantage. The reason Nada or whomever has 400 apm not because they need 400 apm but because the only way to stay fast is to be warmed up through out the entire game.
Having 1 button to hit to do multiple actions will just hinder ur ability to micro.

Moves

United States35 Posts

August 30 2010 05:43 GMT

#74

Maybe not at top tier Diamond, but if someone macro'd a button to bounce through all their production facilities and queue one worker/infantry/air. Then I could see that being a big boon to a many levels of skill.

That said we are splitting hairs I think. I just like to use the game pad, and was wondering about tournaments as I would like to play in tournaments one day. It doesn't seem to be adressed in most rules that I have looked at.

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

August 30 2010 17:02 GMT

#75

Vote count in the Poll has Reached 300 !!! (Tendency was similar to the first 200 Votes)

=> 58% of the people would Not allow using GamePads at Tournaments at all !

=> 42% of the people would Allow using GamePads at Tournaments !

- - - - (30% of them without Macros, and 12% even with Macros) - - - -

Moves

United States35 Posts

August 31 2010 01:05 GMT

#76

@SzaszaG

Just looked at your lego pics for your key interface. Pretty ingenious, I love seeing what the imagination can devise.

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

August 31 2010 14:34 GMT

#77

On August 31 2010 10:05 Moves wrote:
Just looked at your lego pics for your key interface. Pretty ingenious, I love seeing what the imagination can devise.

Thanks man =) More pictures of it can be found on the 3rd Page.

RainWhisper

United Arab Emirates333 Posts

August 31 2010 15:24 GMT

#78

I think alot of people are just afraid that somehow you are gonna use macro bindings or what have you and thus, are not reading what you are saying. Anyhow, please post a video of you playing a game on a gamepad..PLEASE.

imaROBOT

United States81 Posts

August 31 2010 15:40 GMT

#79

I consider it cheating. They would never let you use that at any LAN or competition. Everyone should be using the same hardware so everything is even. Nuff said

SzaszaG

Hungary120 Posts

August 31 2010 16:58 GMT

#80

On September 01 2010 00:24 MarwanBaki wrote:
I think alot of people are just afraid that somehow you are gonna use macro bindings or what have you and thus, are not reading what you are saying. Anyhow, please post a video of you playing a game on a gamepad..PLEASE.

Good Idea ! I will look after, if I can get a camera for this. Maybe I'm gonna make a YouTube VOD about my Basic Key Setup and the Switching of Layers, plus some Ingame usage of the GamePad.

(Although I got 600+ in Diamond with my Alt, I still make just about 80+ APM average. So I don't use GamePad to get Insane APM, or to make any Macro. It's just Much More Comfortable for me, and I got used to it So Much, that I just cannot start it over on a Keyboard, where the Columns are not Vertical...)