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How cheated is a Gaming Mouse with Macro ?

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Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 22:09:12
May 22 2010 11:53 GMT
#1
Poll: Do you think using macro on mouse is cheated ?

Of course is cheated !! (691)
 
58%

I don't care, this stuff is for noobs (250)
 
21%

No that's fine (241)
 
20%

1182 total votes

Your vote: Do you think using macro on mouse is cheated ?

(Vote): Of course is cheated !!
(Vote): No that's fine
(Vote): I don't care, this stuff is for noobs




Hello, everyone,

A few days ago, i bought a new mouse, i wanted a comfortable and precise mouse.
I opted (quite randomly) for the Logitech Gaming Mouse G500 :

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What i discovered when coming home was bluffing...
This mouse has 8 recordable buttons allowing very advanced macro.
I was curious to see if it would work on starcraft 2, so i tried some little macros (I'm zerg player)

So; in 1 click i do : 5 (my hatchery) s d d d d d
5 s v
5 s z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z
5 s t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t

With this mouse you can also do some macros with recordable delays
an exemple : F5 (center screen on hatch1)
6 (select your queens)
v (larva infect)
(click on your hatch)
wait 600 ms
F6 (center screen hatch 2)
v
(click on your hatch)
wait 600 ms
F7
v
(click on your hatch)

So : Mouse macro also allows easy non-human timed micro controle

Actually with this mouse, you can macro your whole base in the late game by just pressing 1 button to realise tons of actions.
The thing is : The macro is recorded in HD inside the mouse, anybody pluging that mouse on a computer will have access to his macros.

What is your opinion on that ?

I, for having tried this a couple of time on ladder can guarantee that having THIS mouse makes you REALLY better.

The main thing is that those actions that takes time ingame takes 0 seconds, you instantly select all your hatchs, then all your larvas, then they all transmute into mutas.
Doing it manually, even if you're good, it takes time and focus.
With this mouse nothing at all...

I honestly think that it's unfair, and a solution should exist to block those kind of Macros on ladder.
When I used this mouse i really felt like cheating.

[EDIT : corrected spelling, added a poll
To make it clear again : I'm not some sort of abuser, I tried this by curiousity and wanted to inform you that such things are easily doable and should not be allowed. I'm not using this macro shit anymore

I was also thinking of a Macro that does :
2 (select marauders)
right click (you move you marauders)
wait xxx ms (where xxx is reload shot time of marauder)
H
wait YYY ms (where YYY is the animation time of a shot)
right click (you move you marauders)
repeat x3

there you have a macro for PERFECT marauder kiting controle]

HoracE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
May 22 2010 11:55 GMT
#2
hmm definately an advantage not something that would be allowed in competitive gaming.
Rodiel
Profile Joined August 2006
France573 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 12:01:18
May 22 2010 11:56 GMT
#3
Better control, not better play
it can help some players, but if you have already good control this will not help a lot i think.

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Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 22 2010 11:56 GMT
#4
it's very hard to check eveybody's mouse, something ingame should disable this i think
Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
May 22 2010 11:57 GMT
#5
it's is as much cheating as maphack IMO
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
May 22 2010 11:58 GMT
#6
Lol come on. I mean of course for terrible people it matters, but it won't matter at all at high levels of play since people can macro competently anyways.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
Bubbadub
Profile Joined November 2009
United States156 Posts
May 22 2010 11:59 GMT
#7
definitely an interesting find that will be hard to track in online tournaments.
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 18:34:49
May 22 2010 11:59 GMT
#8
probably wont be allowed at lans, and lans are the only thing that matter

late edit: lans tournaments are tournaments played in a lan setting obviously, not just the connection. wow has lan tournaments despite connecting to a server outside still. seriously though guys?
graphene
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland211 Posts
May 22 2010 12:00 GMT
#9
i dont think this is allowed in tournaments, but the 2 side buttons would be sweet to add to gameplay for example 1 tied to ur queen and another to overlords or something.
cloud computing is the future
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
May 22 2010 12:00 GMT
#10
On May 22 2010 20:59 andeh wrote:
probably wont be allowed at lans, and lans are the only thing that matter


except SC2 doesn't even have LAN =P
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 12:00:49
May 22 2010 12:00 GMT
#11
On May 22 2010 20:59 andeh wrote:
probably wont be allowed at lans, and lans are the only thing that matter

But there is no LAN...

EDIT: ^^^Exactly.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
Full
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom253 Posts
May 22 2010 12:00 GMT
#12
Seems pretty sick..

sheesh ya'll
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
May 22 2010 12:01 GMT
#13
u mean bnet 2.0 LANs?
makoplux
Profile Joined April 2010
88 Posts
May 22 2010 12:03 GMT
#14
SC2 May not have "LAN" in the classic sense but obviously what people are referring to are tournaments where all players are playing in the same building/area. Then again you already knew that and you decided to troll anyways.
who is john galt?
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 22 2010 12:06 GMT
#15
The main thing is that those actions that takes time ingame takes 0 seconds, you instantly select all your hatchs, then all your larvas, then they all transmute into mutas.
Doing it manually, even if you're good, it takes time and focus.
With this mouse nothing at all...
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
May 22 2010 12:06 GMT
#16
On May 22 2010 21:03 makopluxx wrote:
SC2 May not have "LAN" in the classic sense but obviously what people are referring to are tournaments where all players are playing in the same building/area. Then again you already knew that and you decided to troll anyways.

That wouldn't be a lan, that would just be people playing in the same building still connected to battle.net with the same lag as if they were on opposite sides of the continent.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
MrRey
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
183 Posts
May 22 2010 12:09 GMT
#17
Welcome in the 21th century guys.

I'm amazed so many people seem to discover that this was actually possible xD.
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#18
bnet 2 does have UDP now...
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#19
On May 22 2010 20:56 Rodiel wrote:
Better control, not better play
it can help some players, but if you have already good control this will not help a lot i think.

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This will help any player who's willing to get used to it. Being able to macro that quickly is going to allow them to spend a LOT more time controlling their units and not staring at their base.
Hello
slowmanrunning
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada285 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#20
On May 22 2010 20:58 Kashll wrote:
Lol come on. I mean of course for terrible people it matters, but it won't matter at all at high levels of play since people can macro competently anyways.


98% of people who play starcraft aren't at that level.
I aim to become a hydralisk and then stop posting, cause I don't wanna be a queen...
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