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Poll: Do you think using macro on mouse is cheated ?Of course is cheated !! (691) 58% I don't care, this stuff is for noobs (250) 21% No that's fine (241) 20% 1182 total votes Your vote: Do you think using macro on mouse is cheated ? (Vote): Of course is cheated !! (Vote): No that's fine (Vote): I don't care, this stuff is for noobs
Hello, everyone,
A few days ago, i bought a new mouse, i wanted a comfortable and precise mouse. I opted (quite randomly) for the Logitech Gaming Mouse G500 :
![[image loading]](http://www.blogeek.ch/images/news/logitech_g500.jpg)
What i discovered when coming home was bluffing... This mouse has 8 recordable buttons allowing very advanced macro. I was curious to see if it would work on starcraft 2, so i tried some little macros (I'm zerg player)
So; in 1 click i do : 5 (my hatchery) s d d d d d 5 s v 5 s z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z 5 s t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
With this mouse you can also do some macros with recordable delays an exemple : F5 (center screen on hatch1) 6 (select your queens) v (larva infect) (click on your hatch) wait 600 ms F6 (center screen hatch 2) v (click on your hatch) wait 600 ms F7 v (click on your hatch)
So : Mouse macro also allows easy non-human timed micro controle
Actually with this mouse, you can macro your whole base in the late game by just pressing 1 button to realise tons of actions. The thing is : The macro is recorded in HD inside the mouse, anybody pluging that mouse on a computer will have access to his macros.
What is your opinion on that ?
I, for having tried this a couple of time on ladder can guarantee that having THIS mouse makes you REALLY better.
The main thing is that those actions that takes time ingame takes 0 seconds, you instantly select all your hatchs, then all your larvas, then they all transmute into mutas. Doing it manually, even if you're good, it takes time and focus. With this mouse nothing at all...
I honestly think that it's unfair, and a solution should exist to block those kind of Macros on ladder. When I used this mouse i really felt like cheating.
[EDIT : corrected spelling, added a poll To make it clear again : I'm not some sort of abuser, I tried this by curiousity and wanted to inform you that such things are easily doable and should not be allowed. I'm not using this macro shit anymore
I was also thinking of a Macro that does : 2 (select marauders) right click (you move you marauders) wait xxx ms (where xxx is reload shot time of marauder) H wait YYY ms (where YYY is the animation time of a shot) right click (you move you marauders) repeat x3
there you have a macro for PERFECT marauder kiting controle]
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hmm definately an advantage not something that would be allowed in competitive gaming.
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Better control, not better play  it can help some players, but if you have already good control this will not help a lot i think.
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it's very hard to check eveybody's mouse, something ingame should disable this i think
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it's is as much cheating as maphack IMO
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Lol come on. I mean of course for terrible people it matters, but it won't matter at all at high levels of play since people can macro competently anyways.
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definitely an interesting find that will be hard to track in online tournaments.
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probably wont be allowed at lans, and lans are the only thing that matter
late edit: lans tournaments are tournaments played in a lan setting obviously, not just the connection. wow has lan tournaments despite connecting to a server outside still. seriously though guys?
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i dont think this is allowed in tournaments, but the 2 side buttons would be sweet to add to gameplay for example 1 tied to ur queen and another to overlords or something.
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On May 22 2010 20:59 andeh wrote: probably wont be allowed at lans, and lans are the only thing that matter
except SC2 doesn't even have LAN =P
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On May 22 2010 20:59 andeh wrote: probably wont be allowed at lans, and lans are the only thing that matter But there is no LAN...
EDIT: ^^^Exactly.
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Seems pretty sick..
sheesh ya'll
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SC2 May not have "LAN" in the classic sense but obviously what people are referring to are tournaments where all players are playing in the same building/area. Then again you already knew that and you decided to troll anyways.
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The main thing is that those actions that takes time ingame takes 0 seconds, you instantly select all your hatchs, then all your larvas, then they all transmute into mutas. Doing it manually, even if you're good, it takes time and focus. With this mouse nothing at all...
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On May 22 2010 21:03 makopluxx wrote: SC2 May not have "LAN" in the classic sense but obviously what people are referring to are tournaments where all players are playing in the same building/area. Then again you already knew that and you decided to troll anyways. That wouldn't be a lan, that would just be people playing in the same building still connected to battle.net with the same lag as if they were on opposite sides of the continent.
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Welcome in the 21th century guys.
I'm amazed so many people seem to discover that this was actually possible xD.
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bnet 2 does have UDP now...
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On May 22 2010 20:56 Rodiel wrote:Better control, not better play  it can help some players, but if you have already good control this will not help a lot i think. >![[image loading]](http://www.blogeek.ch/images/news/logitech_g500.jpg) This will help any player who's willing to get used to it. Being able to macro that quickly is going to allow them to spend a LOT more time controlling their units and not staring at their base.
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On May 22 2010 20:58 Kashll wrote: Lol come on. I mean of course for terrible people it matters, but it won't matter at all at high levels of play since people can macro competently anyways.
98% of people who play starcraft aren't at that level.
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