- Most pgm seem to do not use that trick, anyone knows the reason ?

- When I use backspace I don't see any logical order between the hatchs, is there one or is it kind of random ? (when you got 4 or 5 hatchs and only 3 queens this may cause a loss of time)

kingwillah

United States16 Posts

July 25 2010 01:40 GMT

#84

I believe order is first to last built hatch

Hati

France15 Posts

July 25 2010 01:48 GMT

#85

hm doesn't seem so... from what I saw the order changed every time.
I'll retest it Tuesday.

Blisse

Canada3710 Posts

July 25 2010 01:51 GMT

#86

This isn't a macro though. Backspace legitimately centers the camera and shift click spell with any caster will cast multiple times immediately. The only way to nerf is is to remove right shift, or backspace, which will hurt some players.

Hati

France15 Posts

July 26 2010 12:16 GMT

#87

"- Most pgm seem to do not use that trick, anyone knows the reason ?"

No one ?

Kambing

United States1176 Posts

July 26 2010 13:40 GMT

#88

On July 26 2010 21:16 Hati wrote:
"- Most pgm seem to do not use that trick, anyone knows the reason ?"

No one ?

Can only speculate of course, but a few reasons:

Without rebinding keys, bksp-larva takes a bit of finger gymnastics to do (i.e., queen hotkey -> v -> backspace -> hold right shift) that could be considered more error-prone, especially in high APM situations.
Bksp-larva doesn't give you fine-grained control over queens for base defense.
Bksp-larva runs into problems when a queen gets sniped at an expo as you need to be careful to not send another queen off to that expo by mistake.
Many people are used to binding expos to 6-9 from BW so they just stick to what they know.

Personally, I had the most problems with the first three points. However, I suspect that the last point is why you don't see the technique being used by the current top players.

Daewon

127 Posts

July 26 2010 15:05 GMT

#89

Zelniq or QuothTheRaven!!!!

You two seem to have edited your hotkeys the "legit" way, by editing the gamehotkeys.txt file that Blizzard themselves are providing (just like for W3).

Is it possible to remap the following keys, or at least some of them, using those .txt files?

Space
Shift
Ctrl
Tab
Number keys
F-keys

I would for instance like to switch Ctrl to B.

I don't have the beta myself so can't test it :-(

Thanks for the advice on hotkey setups

FTemplar

Canada70 Posts

July 26 2010 18:32 GMT

#90

An alternative if you prefer mouse control, is to bind the queen hotkey (zero in my case) and backspace key to your mouse buttons if you have some extra buttons on the side.

SpiDaH

France198 Posts

July 26 2010 18:59 GMT

#91

I tip my hat to you sir, amazing stuff, ill by trying it out in 3 hours.

meCa

Canada58 Posts

July 26 2010 21:57 GMT

#92

Just tried it. Awesome, just awesome.

1. Put all Queens in a control group. Example: CTRL+3
2. Press 3. (or the hotkey in which you have all your Queens)
3. Have each Queen next to each Hatchery for efficiency.
4. Press V.
5. Hold down Shift. (the one right under your Return/Enter key)
6. Press Backspace.
7. Left click on the Hatchery.
8. Repeat 6.
9. Repeat 7.
10. Repeat 6.
11. Repeat 7.

Etc.

Zombo Joe

Canada850 Posts

July 26 2010 22:44 GMT

#93

I find it easier to just use spawn larva on the minimap.

Bluerain

United States348 Posts

July 29 2010 02:12 GMT

#94

i cant find the GameHotKeys.txt , is that only for the beta? what about retail? o_O

Hati

France15 Posts

August 02 2010 23:35 GMT

#95

Starcraft II --> Versions --> Base15405
then open the MPQ patch-frFR.sc2archive (french version but you should have something like that with eng instead of fr) with MPQ Editor.
You should find a DataLocalized folder (i'm not sure but maybe in mod and liberty mod then sc2data or something) you'll see the GameHotkeys.txt in DataLocalized
have fun

Wr3k

Canada2533 Posts

August 19 2010 07:17 GMT

#96

This is definitely an extremely fast way of injecting multiple hatcheries, just be aware that it can fubar your queen placement if one hatch doesn't have a queen next to it.

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

August 19 2010 09:38 GMT

#97

There are no hotkeys for me

All buttons are on mouse. ANyway, thx for tutorial

Mortis

United States217 Posts

August 20 2010 16:07 GMT

#98

I can't seem to figure out how to do this.. I am following what seems to be the correct directions, yet, once I center on my first queen and inject larva, my camera just stays on the first hatch.. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong :| When I hit v then hold shift, I hit back space and my camera doesn't move.

Mortis

United States217 Posts

August 20 2010 16:20 GMT

#99

bleh, meant to edit and hit quote sorry

SkeweredFromEarToEye

Canada19 Posts

August 20 2010 16:33 GMT

#100