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Shadrak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States490 Posts
August 11 2011 13:13 GMT
#201
I changed backspace to an extra button on the right side of my mouse. By far beats reaching across the keyboard to use backspace.
Bouric
Profile Joined July 2011
United States18 Posts
August 11 2011 18:01 GMT
#202
Only downside is if you lose 1 or more of your queens this method becomes completely F'd.
Raikia
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Guernsey59 Posts
August 11 2011 18:04 GMT
#203
Backspace is the worst button for this, rebind it to spacebar because what that does by default is useless
walnutmon
Profile Joined July 2010
10 Posts
August 23 2011 12:52 GMT
#204
I rebound backspace to W and just started using this technique last night. For the last year (well, a good deal of time I've been on hiatus) I've used the mini-map clicking technique - I've been of the opinion "if it ain't broke, yada yada" - well, I can conclusively say, after only two matches of using this method, that it was broke and I had NO IDEA!

First off, this method, when done well is infinitely faster, you need zero click skills to execute it since your target is much bigger and it is in the same location on screen.

Second, the amount you learn about your macro, and the improvements that you will all of a sudden make when you see every base of yours once every 40 seconds is AMAZING. All of a sudden I'm no longer forgetting to put guys on gas - my tech is faster, my money is lower, my larva is like a fountain of FUCKING unending power.

I still have hesitation every time I go to perform this, which will subside in another day or so I'm sure, but the best part is that even though I'm not doing it that well yet, it's still much easier and faster than my old method.

Bouric: "Only downside is if you lose 1 or more of your queens this method becomes completely F'd."

This is something I used to believe until I tried it, the fact of the matter is, because you actually see every base every cycle you will be in a good position to know whether or not your intended queen is going to perform the inject. When I actually started doing this the first thing I realized was how intuitive it was, and even if you "mess up" you're still controlling all queens, so press "s" and all is right again. If you've lost a queen, or one base doesn't have one what you will end up doing is skip clicking on the hatch because you dont' see a queen, you'll just go "backspace - click - backspace - backspace - click"

That said, the fact that this function was mapped to backspace is beyond my comprehension. I don't just use it for injects now, I use it for teching and any other base building. It's just so damn useful.

Thanks!
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
August 23 2011 12:58 GMT
#205
I dont play zerg much at all but i changed my Capslock key to cycle base camera put queens on 1 hot key press shift/v and capslock/click, really easy and simple for someone that dont play zerg alot i dont miss injects on 3 bases + queens dont run away from their hatch
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 23 2011 13:12 GMT
#206
On August 12 2011 03:04 Raikia wrote:
Backspace is the worst button for this, rebind it to spacebar because what that does by default is useless


Maybe in your opinion... The spacebar makes multitasking sooo much easier. Muta harrassing, running lings around, injecting, and making units? no problem, spacebar lets you instantly jump to wherever you need to be looking at any given time.

I used to think it was useless too, then I started to play BW a little... and damn I couldn't have been more wrong. Much more useful in BW because it would jump to anywhere you spawned a unit as well making telling workers to mine much much easier.

I find consistent use of the spacebar also helps keep your eyes focused on the minimap (read, where you eyes should be) more because you want to see where the ping is coming from in order to decide if you need to change your camera.
Crosswind
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
August 31 2011 12:51 GMT
#207
So, like 0 pros use this set-up. They all do hatches on 4, queens on 5-Whatever.

Any idea why?

-Cross
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 31 2011 12:58 GMT
#208
On August 31 2011 21:51 Crosswind wrote:
So, like 0 pros use this set-up. They all do hatches on 4, queens on 5-Whatever.

Any idea why?

-Cross


Pro's do use it.
Normally not in the early/mid game tho cuz with 2 hatcheries they just manually inject.
Idra uses it all the time on his stream.
And for this method u have to put all ur queens on 1 number and all ur hatches on another :p
boogiewizz
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania1 Post
September 09 2011 14:58 GMT
#209
well i actually bound Select Hatchery on ShiftSpace and I:

1. Select Queens
2. Press Shift-V while keeping Shift Pressed.
3. I tap Space > click > space ...

KoiKe-
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada24 Posts
September 09 2011 17:08 GMT
#210
This is even easier with space bar my thumb is slways on it why not using it -_-
indigoawareness
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovakia273 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 18:17:24
September 09 2011 18:13 GMT
#211
This is MrBitter's method, he's been doing this from the start.

The only problem is a queen will wander if you do not have one for every single hatch.
To sleep, perchance to dream.
uZcorruptor
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria4 Posts
October 03 2011 15:26 GMT
#212
i have 1 problem with this method if i bind all my queens on 1 hotkey and all hatcheries on 1. than i hit backspace and he switches to buildings and morphed units and some other stuff

pls need help
Invictus212
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom78 Posts
October 07 2011 00:59 GMT
#213
On May 17 2010 06:10 roark wrote:
Couldn't find a truly relevant thread to add this too. I discussed it in another thread when people were upset about the wire-frame casting be taken out. Yet without a video I don't think people understood how fast\good this was. So I made a video to demonstrate.

I think this is faster than Mini-Map casting and far more accurate. With practice it is super fast.

Check out the video demonstration here.

Basic Guide \ Idea

1. Put all queens on 1 hotkey.
2. Select queens.
3. Press Spawn Larvae hotkey.
4. Press Backspace once to center on a hatch.
5. Hold Right Side Shift. (With left hand thumb, do not release at all)
6. Click Left Mouse Button + Backspace (Hit backspace with left hand index\middle finger) <- Repeat this series of actions rapidly. Hitting LMB and Backspace over and over in succession.
7. All hatches are injected.

I numbered the hatcheries 1 through 6 in the video with supply depots, this helps show how fast you hop around and inject larvae.

Hopefully this is a technique other are using, or can find useful.




roark, thanks for sharing this tip. I'm experimenting with Zerg and this trick is making the transition so much easier. Larva inject is such a difficult thing to remember -- in addition to creep spread!
EvilZergling
Profile Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
October 07 2011 16:43 GMT
#214
Waste of time using backspace, that's horrible. I can't imagine being in the middle of a battle with army hotkeys of 1,2,3 while still being able to move your hand across the keyboard to backspace......

Rebind backspace to "W" imo. All queens on 1 hotkey (mine is 5).

Tap 5, hold shift and tap W between hatcheries.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 07 2011 16:49 GMT
#215
I've got "backspace" functionality on one of my mouse side buttons. No need to move your keyboard hand, ezpz.
It's your boy Guzma!
Twixzter
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden4 Posts
October 16 2011 03:16 GMT
#216
Dunno dosnt work for me... when i do that it goes to the structure/unit i just created...
God do not exist, But I do
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
October 16 2011 03:28 GMT
#217
On October 16 2011 12:16 Twixzter wrote:
Dunno dosnt work for me... when i do that it goes to the structure/unit i just created...


Backspace Key
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Not Spacebar.
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Twixzter
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden4 Posts
October 16 2011 22:50 GMT
#218
hehe yeah i pressed the backspace didnt work for me so i switched it to W and it works perfect now


anyway ty for the tips m8
God do not exist, But I do
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 14:00:44
January 18 2012 13:58 GMT
#219
On May 17 2010 06:10 roark wrote:
Couldn't find a truly relevant thread to add this too. I discussed it in another thread when people were upset about the wire-frame casting be taken out. Yet without a video I don't think people understood how fast\good this was. So I made a video to demonstrate.

I think this is faster than Mini-Map casting and far more accurate. With practice it is super fast.

Check out the video demonstration here.

Basic Guide \ Idea

1. Put all queens on 1 hotkey.
2. Select queens.
3. Press Spawn Larvae hotkey.
4. Press Backspace once to center on a hatch.
5. Hold Right Side Shift. (With left hand thumb, do not release at all)
6. Click Left Mouse Button + Backspace (Hit backspace with left hand index\middle finger) <- Repeat this series of actions rapidly. Hitting LMB and Backspace over and over in succession.
7. All hatches are injected.

I numbered the hatcheries 1 through 6 in the video with supply depots, this helps show how fast you hop around and inject larvae.

Hopefully this is a technique other are using, or can find useful.




This has a major disadvantage in the sense that if you get dropped and lose 1 queen, your queens will start walking across the map. Really annoying. But I made a video on this for anyone that wants it explained better.

Luppa <3
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
January 18 2012 14:03 GMT
#220
On January 18 2012 22:58 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2010 06:10 roark wrote:
Couldn't find a truly relevant thread to add this too. I discussed it in another thread when people were upset about the wire-frame casting be taken out. Yet without a video I don't think people understood how fast\good this was. So I made a video to demonstrate.

I think this is faster than Mini-Map casting and far more accurate. With practice it is super fast.

Check out the video demonstration here.

Basic Guide \ Idea

1. Put all queens on 1 hotkey.
2. Select queens.
3. Press Spawn Larvae hotkey.
4. Press Backspace once to center on a hatch.
5. Hold Right Side Shift. (With left hand thumb, do not release at all)
6. Click Left Mouse Button + Backspace (Hit backspace with left hand index\middle finger) <- Repeat this series of actions rapidly. Hitting LMB and Backspace over and over in succession.
7. All hatches are injected.

I numbered the hatcheries 1 through 6 in the video with supply depots, this helps show how fast you hop around and inject larvae.

Hopefully this is a technique other are using, or can find useful.




This has a major disadvantage in the sense that if you get dropped and lose 1 queen, your queens will start walking across the map. Really annoying. But I made a video on this for anyone that wants it explained better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrnwNXY8S9g&feature=channel_video_title


hold shift and end your cycle with pressing "S". all your wandering queens will stop wandering.

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