I've been encountering a problem with this method of spawning larva: It works fine in the early game but in a few games where my opponent has sniped a hatchery, the hotkey stops working.

I have the tilde (~) key mapped to the town hall function (instead of backspace) so I'm wondering if there is a bug here. I can switch from base to base just fine with the tilde key all game long if all my hatcheries survive but in any game I lose one hatch, the tilde key appears to have no effect.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Lythox

Netherlands161 Posts

February 07 2011 22:59 GMT

#162

Actually now with custom hotkey support, I have a logitech gaming mouse so I remapped the function of the backspace key (I believe its called base camera or something) to one of the two side buttons my mouse has. I have bound the other mouse button to select idle worker, which allows for incredibly fast "F1" splits =P

Either way for me this mouse button bind helps out a great deal and makes swapping between hatches for injects, or even just to quickly visit your main for something, an incredibly effective technique for fast injecting, without having to move your hands away from the important keys. Something unexpected might happen, and when your hand is all the way over the backspace key those few milliseconds might just cost you the game.

Klystron

United States99 Posts

February 07 2011 23:01 GMT

#163

On February 08 2011 07:53 savysmith wrote:
I've been encountering a problem with this method of spawning larva: It works fine in the early game but in a few games where my opponent has sniped a hatchery, the hotkey stops working.

I have the tilde (~) key mapped to the town hall function (instead of backspace) so I'm wondering if there is a bug here. I can switch from base to base just fine with the tilde key all game long if all my hatcheries survive but in any game I lose one hatch, the tilde key appears to have no effect.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I also have my town hall function bound to (~) and I find it works a lot better.

Also if you don't play random or protoss I recommend changing control group 0 to be used with W (W,ctrl+W,shift+W)

You can bind all your queens to (W), and then all you have to do the method outlined in the OP, but your fingers don't have to travel nearly as far.

Granted, it won't really matter if you play toss, because you can always just set all your Warpgates to the (W) ctrl group anyway.

Keitzer

United States2509 Posts

February 07 2011 23:01 GMT

#164

ive been using caps lock instead of ~ since caps lock and left shift are right next to each other on the keyboard

Bukov

United States2 Posts

February 15 2011 20:00 GMT

#165

This thread changed my life

0meg4

Brazil97 Posts

February 19 2011 02:39 GMT

#166

yeah, and it never gets old, first posts are from may 2010

B-Wong

United States240 Posts

February 19 2011 02:43 GMT

#167

I use spacebar without hotkeyed queens. Just cycle through the hatcheries and select queens, vomit.

FluffyBinLaden

United States527 Posts

February 21 2011 15:47 GMT

#168

Wow, just found this forum. Upped my gameplay like *snap* that. Thanks guys, and well done with the clever tactic!

Wordpad

Denmark154 Posts

March 02 2011 21:21 GMT

#169

I found out an EXTREMELY neat way of utilizing this method, in a much easier way.
Rebind "Base Camera" aka backspace, to: SHIFT+SPACE. Yeah, you can keybind a combination of keys to a function, its amazing! :p Why?

Because you are going to be holding shift down anyways to spawn larva.

Because space is extremely easy to press, and the combination feels much nicer / more natural.

Because you are not swapping keybinds, so pressing space without shift will still have the same functionality as before (jump to last alert). It is only the combination of SHIT+SPACE that functions as backspace/"base camera".

So basically, in a real game you would hold down your left shift with your pinky, and with your thumb hit space, click, space, click, space, click done.

edit: oops, this was already posted 1 page earlier -.-

ChefStarCraft

Canada350 Posts

March 07 2011 03:20 GMT

#170

Please check out this thread explaining how to stop queen melt downs:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199060

GiantEnemyCrab

Canada503 Posts

March 07 2011 03:31 GMT

#171

OMG u can change the hotkeys so its on the left side of the keyboard and you come a macro monster, man things like this make me wish i was a zergie
if zergs still QQ i think i m gonna explode
anyway amazing find i want to try to use it with terran if possible

Mortician

Bulgaria2332 Posts

April 16 2011 18:17 GMT

#172

Is this allowed in tournaments?

bMn30

United States113 Posts

April 16 2011 18:25 GMT

#173

On April 17 2011 03:17 Mortician wrote:
Is this allowed in tournaments?

Yes, anything in the game is allowed in tournaments.

Toads

Canada1795 Posts

April 16 2011 20:06 GMT

#174

On March 03 2011 06:21 Wordpad wrote:
I found out an EXTREMELY neat way of utilizing this method, in a much easier way.
Rebind "Base Camera" aka backspace, to: SHIFT+SPACE. Yeah, you can keybind a combination of keys to a function, its amazing! :p Why?

Because you are going to be holding shift down anyways to spawn larva.

Because space is extremely easy to press, and the combination feels much nicer / more natural.

Because you are not swapping keybinds, so pressing space without shift will still have the same functionality as before (jump to last alert). It is only the combination of SHIT+SPACE that functions as backspace/"base camera".

So basically, in a real game you would hold down your left shift with your pinky, and with your thumb hit space, click, space, click, space, click done.

edit: oops, this was already posted 1 page earlier -.-

You mean if you use Shift + space instead if back space it'll count as you use shift too :O

Wow very clever, so i can keep my space bar's function as it was before :D awesome find

Thorack

Sweden1 Post

May 10 2011 19:15 GMT

#175

I'm using my amazing bronze skills to come up with a posible solution on the problem if u dont have enough energy/queens: After ya done all of em bases realy fast larva inject just hit the stopkey and ur good.

TaylorGangOrDie

United States104 Posts

May 11 2011 20:40 GMT

#176

Sounds more complicated then if you just put your queens on hotkeys 5 6 7 8, if you have that many queens that is. and just manually inject. I find that much more easier...

Impervious

Canada4198 Posts

May 11 2011 20:43 GMT

#177

On April 17 2011 05:06 StoLiVe wrote:

Show nested quote +

You mean if you use Shift + space instead if back space it'll count as you use shift too :O

Wow very clever, so i can keep my space bar's function as it was before :D awesome find

I've had mine setup for that for months now..... I figured everyone would think of that keybind.....

I must say, it is really, really comfortable to do.

BenBuford

Denmark307 Posts

May 17 2011 22:02 GMT

#178

On May 12 2011 05:40 TaylorGangOrDie wrote:
Sounds more complicated then if you just put your queens on hotkeys 5 6 7 8, if you have that many queens that is. and just manually inject. I find that much more easier...

I used this setup as well, for a long time, and I loved it.
But since you can now keybind as you please, the method listed in this thread is faster/easier.

Your injects:
5, 5, v, inject, 6, 6, v, inject, 7, 7, v, inject, 8, 8, v, inject (16 clicks)

This way ("Next Base" camera bound to 'w' in my setup, since w is prectically never used as zerg. All Queens on '5'):
5, v, hold shift, w, inject, w, inject, w, inject, w, inject (11 clicks)

In case you have more than 4 active hatches, this scales even further.

Also, it's actually nice to have all your Queens on one hotkey for early air defense, transfusing stuff etc, as you can just click 5 and not worry about where the queens are actually positioned. Nice when you're in a tight spot.

Try it in five or so custom games vs computer AI and see if you like it.
Took me quite some games to unlearn the old way, but it was well worth it though.