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Krry
Profile Joined December 2010
2 Posts
January 03 2011 16:36 GMT
#121
On December 28 2010 13:26 ejac wrote:
Here are my 2cents to about this method to anyone interested. This is a bad way to do your larva injection. When I heard about this method back when this thread was put out, I used it until 2 months ago, when I started to go back to just doing my queens singly 6-0 and at least in my opinion, it was like night and day. This method does work well, if the game plays out perfectly and you have a queen at every hatchery etc. The problem is, you can't count on the game to work out perfectly. You are going to lose queens or you may on (rare) occasion simply forget to build one and then this system simply doesn't work. With the backspace method, I can do all my larva injects in 1 second. Doing 66e77e88e99e00e (I changed the hotkey, although I'm considering changing it to T), takes less than 2 seconds and at least in my opinion, the extra secondish it takes to do it is worth having a system you can always rely on to function correctly.

There are some other benefits of having your queens hotkeyed separately as well I've found.


wanted to write the same so
/sign!
its not really slower and u also watch at your hatches every minute
eZ[]rashin.sama
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16 Posts
January 09 2011 15:04 GMT
#122
Zomg I learned this on my own.

Do I never used space bar I just Larvae Inject on the mini map queens automatically inject the closest hatchery.
"If I lose, it was worth the match"
NightStarcraft
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom4 Posts
January 11 2011 20:17 GMT
#123
I'm a left handed SC2 player, so this is slightly trickier with my right hand on the keyboard, any other lefties out there with some suggestions as to how to do this easily? I probably just need more practise though I suppose.
asmo.0
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway318 Posts
January 11 2011 20:36 GMT
#124
On January 12 2011 05:17 NightStarcraft wrote:
I'm a left handed SC2 player, so this is slightly trickier with my right hand on the keyboard, any other lefties out there with some suggestions as to how to do this easily? I probably just need more practise though I suppose.

In just a day or two, when patch 1.2 hits, you can rebind the "center camera on hatch"-key away from backspace. Highly recommend CAPS (been using it since release keybound as backspace), its extremely effective. Might be a better key for it, being left handed, but might be just as good...
CallmeMuppet
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland176 Posts
January 11 2011 21:08 GMT
#125
I seriously don't know what I'm doing wrong with this. I tested it four hours now but with this method I will nearly never chose my hatcheries but always units, commands etc.

How can I change that or ist it really all luck based?
NightStarcraft
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom4 Posts
January 11 2011 22:00 GMT
#126
On January 12 2011 05:36 asmo.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 05:17 NightStarcraft wrote:
I'm a left handed SC2 player, so this is slightly trickier with my right hand on the keyboard, any other lefties out there with some suggestions as to how to do this easily? I probably just need more practise though I suppose.

In just a day or two, when patch 1.2 hits, you can rebind the "center camera on hatch"-key away from backspace. Highly recommend CAPS (been using it since release keybound as backspace), its extremely effective. Might be a better key for it, being left handed, but might be just as good...


Yeah I imagine that will help a lot and make it much easier, cheers :D
not allowed rebinds in tournies though are you? :<
bball2
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada49 Posts
January 11 2011 22:07 GMT
#127
I tried using this strategy for a few weeks but I ended up messing up a lot after I got past my first two hatcheries and not every hatch had a queen. Other than just missing larvae injects I would send queens half away across the map. So I've just stuck to each queen having it's own hotkey and all the hatches binded together.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 11 2011 22:08 GMT
#128
With the new patch I might try zerg now. I hated hitting backspace.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2011 00:09 GMT
#129
Me too, I hated pressing backspace. I might change the buttons to be left-shift + `

But I can't find the hotkey backspace anywhere, can anyone redirect me?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
January 12 2011 00:17 GMT
#130
Dont even bother using backspace. Now that Patch 1.2 is out, re-bind it to the space bar or something nice and convenient.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
January 12 2011 01:34 GMT
#131
On January 12 2011 09:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Me too, I hated pressing backspace. I might change the buttons to be left-shift + `

But I can't find the hotkey backspace anywhere, can anyone redirect me?


yeah you can find it in hotkeys, under global and camera. its called Base Camera.

you can change it from there if you like.
If you want peace... prepare for war.
Fisalia
Profile Joined September 2009
69 Posts
January 12 2011 01:56 GMT
#132
Despite what other people have said, this "discovery", imo, is extremely important. It could rate as important as mutalisk micro in BW1. Okay.... jk it's not that great ^^, but it's has its pros and its cons.
Heres a list of generally the pros I think there are:
-requires much less time.
-somewhat regular (1 cycle of all hatches per 25 energy)
-Much easier now with the customizable hotkeys
Cons:
-Requires all hatches to have the same cycle (they must have the larvae dropping at around the same time)
-You can't do this with creep tumor (obviously ^^, but somewhat worth mentioning)
-Easier to mess up (you can press wrong places or miss a hatch)
-Not as controlled as a queen to each hotkey (you can't individually select a queen since all the queens are on the same hotkey).

Ergo, deciding whether to do this doesn't depend on the # of pros and cons, but I would think it depends on what you are most comfortable with. I advise trying this way for like 1 week of laddering, and then seeing which way you like more. If I missed any pros or cons, feel free to list them!
Winning isn't everything... it's the only thing
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2011 02:06 GMT
#133
On January 12 2011 10:34 Keldrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 09:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Me too, I hated pressing backspace. I might change the buttons to be left-shift + `

But I can't find the hotkey backspace anywhere, can anyone redirect me?


yeah you can find it in hotkeys, under global and camera. its called Base Camera.

you can change it from there if you like.


Big fucking thank you!

I changed it to tilde and things are so much less awkward!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ZetSc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada5 Posts
January 12 2011 22:39 GMT
#134
aynone know how to hotkey my mouse button to inject? Doesnt seem to want to work with the new hotkeying.
AesopsZerg
Profile Joined July 2010
United States52 Posts
January 14 2011 09:02 GMT
#135
Now that we can change hotkeys, I set my "focus home" to ` which is much easier than stretching my hand out for backspace.
My Sc2 Blog: http://sc2daily.blogspot.com/
PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 12:39:55
January 14 2011 12:39 GMT
#136
I changed the base camera to my "back" mouse button, which is on the side and trigger it with my thumb. So I just need to press shift+v, keep holding shift and spam both mouse buttons at the same time.

Works like a charm
I has a flavor
sixzeros
Profile Joined December 2010
72 Posts
January 15 2011 14:05 GMT
#137
aynone know how to hotkey my mouse button to inject? Doesnt seem to want to work with the new hotkeying


install autohotkey

then this code will redirect the extra mouse button to the backspace to swap nexus and the other button will execute the V inject


xbutton1::backspace
xbutton2::v


PiRate647
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium187 Posts
January 15 2011 19:51 GMT
#138
- revolution
"Who always takes a taxi, but never pays a fare?" - "Vegeta!?" ||||exclusively a fan of RET!! .... and perhaps ClouD !
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
January 15 2011 20:06 GMT
#139
make a vid
I cant do it right xD
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Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
January 18 2011 10:54 GMT
#140
Doesn't seem to work for me. I've changed backspace to tab. I press my queen control group, then press v (spawn larvae), and then hold shift and press tab multiple times, but it doesn't move inbetween the queens. If I press tab without shift it works but that's sort of pointless.
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