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Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
May 11 2010 04:56 GMT
#101
He's completely right. I have this tank push against protoss that decimates.

Against zerg I have a marauder+1 push that transitions into tanks. They are really strong ;o.
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 11 2010 05:02 GMT
#102
On May 11 2010 12:02 Wargizmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:55 theqat wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:52 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:38 theqat wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:30 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:19 Fayth wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Artosis = Such a baller.

Keep posting sick vids and pounding Korean newbies on Asia

meh stop mis-using the word baller lol





Hey can someone explain the correct usage of the word "baller", obviously it's meaning is different in relation to the SC community than to its original basketball context.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller the first one is adequate


Thanks for the link (I had already googled it) but that really doesn't seem to be how people are using the term in relation to SC. I've heard it used to describe a unit that gets a bunch of kills or a player that uses a particularly risky strategy... this doesn't really fit with the "thug that has made it to the big time" description on urban dictionary.


They're all using it incorrectly, in as much as one can use a slang term incorrectly

For a unit that gets a bunch of kills the similarity is pretty obvious--any unit could die with 0 kills, but a baller unit has hit it big

As for the risky builds, in that context people seem to use it to mean that a player has an abundance of confidence. Or maybe hubris

Don't think about it too hard. The people using the term aren't!


True that, I didn't really think about it up until now but someone criticised someone else for using the term incorrectly in this thread and I thought I'd see if anyone actually could throw some light on how it's supposed to be used, if indeed there is a correct usage.


slang is slang. unless someone says something like, "that dude is so baller" as they observe him shooting an air ball in front of 'the girls,' then they are not incorrect. and even in this case they wouldn't be, since they're most likely just being sarcastic.

slang words have very, very loose definitions and i think that if you thought about it for like 2s you'd find the same thing in australia.

you're not really wrong about how you use it unless, in the midst of a group of people you use a slang term, and everyone looks at you like you're an idiot. then, you probably used it incorrectly.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
May 11 2010 05:09 GMT
#103
On May 11 2010 14:02 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 12:02 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:55 theqat wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:52 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:38 theqat wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:30 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:19 Fayth wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Artosis = Such a baller.

Keep posting sick vids and pounding Korean newbies on Asia

meh stop mis-using the word baller lol





Hey can someone explain the correct usage of the word "baller", obviously it's meaning is different in relation to the SC community than to its original basketball context.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller the first one is adequate


Thanks for the link (I had already googled it) but that really doesn't seem to be how people are using the term in relation to SC. I've heard it used to describe a unit that gets a bunch of kills or a player that uses a particularly risky strategy... this doesn't really fit with the "thug that has made it to the big time" description on urban dictionary.


They're all using it incorrectly, in as much as one can use a slang term incorrectly

For a unit that gets a bunch of kills the similarity is pretty obvious--any unit could die with 0 kills, but a baller unit has hit it big

As for the risky builds, in that context people seem to use it to mean that a player has an abundance of confidence. Or maybe hubris

Don't think about it too hard. The people using the term aren't!


True that, I didn't really think about it up until now but someone criticised someone else for using the term incorrectly in this thread and I thought I'd see if anyone actually could throw some light on how it's supposed to be used, if indeed there is a correct usage.


slang words have very, very loose definitions and i think that if you thought about it for like 2s you'd find the same thing in australia.



Nah we don't use slang in Australia
Fizban140
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)129 Posts
May 11 2010 05:14 GMT
#104
How does a tank push work against protoss? I don't play T but can't they just use immortals and stalkers with blink?
GreyCone
Profile Joined April 2010
United States42 Posts
May 11 2010 05:15 GMT
#105
I can't stand how snotty Artosis sounds in this interview. He has some false air of superiority that I don't like to hear. It is cool that he has the ability to interview players like this that most of us wouldn't have access to, but some of his comments seem so elitist. Anyone else feel the same way?
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
May 11 2010 05:15 GMT
#106
No doubt in my mind that if the real flash were to play SC2 Terran, he would rape face.

But that's really just wishful thinking because it ain't going to happen anytime soon. By the time any of the top SC1 korean progamers switch to SC2 we'll be MANY patches ahead of where we are now, so I don't really see Tester's point.

Who cares if in patch 11 or whatever Terran has the greatest potential. What happens if Terran gets nerfed by patch 25 or whenever Flash finally does play SC2? Why speculate about shit that just can't happen?
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
Fizban140
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)129 Posts
May 11 2010 05:18 GMT
#107
On May 11 2010 14:15 GreyCone wrote:
I can't stand how snotty Artosis sounds in this interview. He has some false air of superiority that I don't like to hear. It is cool that he has the ability to interview players like this that most of us wouldn't have access to, but some of his comments seem so elitist. Anyone else feel the same way?

Not at all...
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
May 11 2010 05:18 GMT
#108
On May 11 2010 14:14 Fizban140 wrote:
How does a tank push work against protoss? I don't play T but can't they just use immortals and stalkers with blink?


I think his meaning was "You scout, and if he's rushing Void Rays to the point where he has no defense, you go roll him. If he slowed down his build to incorporate a safe number of stalkers, you bunker up and you'll have time to get Vikings." It works because you scout his army composition and size beforehand.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your question.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
May 11 2010 05:19 GMT
#109
the strategy he was talking about in tvp. i've been doing this for 2 weeks with good success. on temple its great because u can cliff like crazy with tanks
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Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
May 11 2010 05:19 GMT
#110
On May 11 2010 14:15 GreyCone wrote:
I can't stand how snotty Artosis sounds in this interview. He has some false air of superiority that I don't like to hear. It is cool that he has the ability to interview players like this that most of us wouldn't have access to, but some of his comments seem so elitist. Anyone else feel the same way?


I think I know what you're talking about, but he's just kidding around.
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 05:23:37
May 11 2010 05:22 GMT
#111
Well he did say all of us terran users are a bunch of chobos... Didn't really seem to me like he was kidding around..
dNo_O
Profile Joined November 2008
United States233 Posts
May 11 2010 05:24 GMT
#112
i love that blizzard's argument against having lurkers was that they would be so "useless" with all the "abundant" detection at tier 3, but dts are tier 3 (talking about the split up templar archives reminded me of this)... it's funny that nobody really argued that when blizzard told us there was too much detection for them to include lurkers... good one browder, good one.
It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
Fizban140
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)129 Posts
May 11 2010 05:24 GMT
#113
On May 11 2010 14:18 Dromar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 14:14 Fizban140 wrote:
How does a tank push work against protoss? I don't play T but can't they just use immortals and stalkers with blink?


I think his meaning was "You scout, and if he's rushing Void Rays to the point where he has no defense, you go roll him. If he slowed down his build to incorporate a safe number of stalkers, you bunker up and you'll have time to get Vikings." It works because you scout his army composition and size beforehand.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your question.

I am only a gold player but when I do my standard 4 rax fe the void rays come out at about 30 supply and I don't think you would really have a chance of going that build unless you knew before hand that he was doing that. Not maybe if you were going a 3 rax build with gas at 13 you could get the tank out but it would still be close. I think the air usually comes out at about 6:30 minutes, the map would have to be pretty small to get there in time.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 11 2010 05:26 GMT
#114
Show us how Terran is done, Artosis, you traitor!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 11 2010 05:27 GMT
#115
On May 11 2010 14:14 Fizban140 wrote:
How does a tank push work against protoss? I don't play T but can't they just use immortals and stalkers with blink?

Ghost nullify immortal shields and cut stalker total hp in half. Tanks then just evaporate them. They do a flat 60 damage to everything in seige mode. In other words, they kill 2 shot stalkers that have been EMPed and can 5 shot immotals that have been EMPed.

Going mech is all about positioning and getting those EMPs off.
Johoseph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 05:32:28
May 11 2010 05:30 GMT
#116
On May 11 2010 14:15 tubs wrote:
No doubt in my mind that if the real flash were to play SC2 Terran, he would rape face.

But that's really just wishful thinking because it ain't going to happen anytime soon. By the time any of the top SC1 korean progamers switch to SC2 we'll be MANY patches ahead of where we are now, so I don't really see Tester's point.

Who cares if in patch 11 or whatever Terran has the greatest potential. What happens if Terran gets nerfed by patch 25 or whenever Flash finally does play SC2? Why speculate about shit that just can't happen?


Because he was asked a question, and he answered it. See that's what you do when you're interviewed. Not like he sits on a forum all day whining about shit like 90% of the people here do. He just answered a question.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 11 2010 05:32 GMT
#117
On May 11 2010 14:24 Fizban140 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 14:18 Dromar wrote:
On May 11 2010 14:14 Fizban140 wrote:
How does a tank push work against protoss? I don't play T but can't they just use immortals and stalkers with blink?


I think his meaning was "You scout, and if he's rushing Void Rays to the point where he has no defense, you go roll him. If he slowed down his build to incorporate a safe number of stalkers, you bunker up and you'll have time to get Vikings." It works because you scout his army composition and size beforehand.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your question.

I am only a gold player but when I do my standard 4 rax fe the void rays come out at about 30 supply and I don't think you would really have a chance of going that build unless you knew before hand that he was doing that. Not maybe if you were going a 3 rax build with gas at 13 you could get the tank out but it would still be close. I think the air usually comes out at about 6:30 minutes, the map would have to be pretty small to get there in time.

Isn't Tester's suggestion to push out like you would with FD, with marines out of ONE barracks, and a a tank from a factory? I don't see how this has to do 4rax or 3rax builds off 1 base.
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condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 05:39:55
May 11 2010 05:39 GMT
#118
This is exactly how i feel, terrans have the most potential with the recent changes. Good to hear an educated opinion on this matter.

On May 11 2010 14:15 GreyCone wrote:
I can't stand how snotty Artosis sounds in this interview. He has some false air of superiority that I don't like to hear. It is cool that he has the ability to interview players like this that most of us wouldn't have access to, but some of his comments seem so elitist. Anyone else feel the same way?


Watch any professional talk about the things he does to a bunch of rooks, he has every right to act elitist. In artosis case elitism isn't even slightly annoying, I believe you have to be really insecure to accuse him of acting the way he does. Artosis hasn't changed and he's exactly the man that we all love.
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
Fizban140
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)129 Posts
May 11 2010 05:42 GMT
#119
On May 11 2010 14:32 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 14:24 Fizban140 wrote:
On May 11 2010 14:18 Dromar wrote:
On May 11 2010 14:14 Fizban140 wrote:
How does a tank push work against protoss? I don't play T but can't they just use immortals and stalkers with blink?


I think his meaning was "You scout, and if he's rushing Void Rays to the point where he has no defense, you go roll him. If he slowed down his build to incorporate a safe number of stalkers, you bunker up and you'll have time to get Vikings." It works because you scout his army composition and size beforehand.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your question.

I am only a gold player but when I do my standard 4 rax fe the void rays come out at about 30 supply and I don't think you would really have a chance of going that build unless you knew before hand that he was doing that. Not maybe if you were going a 3 rax build with gas at 13 you could get the tank out but it would still be close. I think the air usually comes out at about 6:30 minutes, the map would have to be pretty small to get there in time.

Isn't Tester's suggestion to push out like you would with FD, with marines out of ONE barracks, and a a tank from a factory? I don't see how this has to do 4rax or 3rax builds off 1 base.

Not sure he didn't really say what build just that you should lol and use tanks and marines and a viking. I doubt you can get all that out before they can get the void rays though.
Enfold
Profile Joined March 2010
United States110 Posts
May 11 2010 05:42 GMT
#120
tester fighting!
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