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Last Edited: 2010-05-25 17:06:18
May 25 2010 17:05 GMT
#341
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HUGGY
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland42 Posts
May 25 2010 17:07 GMT
#342
I love how everyones talking about TLO in a Tester thread. Every race has its easy/hard shit, I swear for a website that has rules, the lot of you men act like women. Just accept things for what they are, stop being bad at the game, and figure a way to beat what youre having problems with, instead of crying all the time. Thats all I see In the sc2 threads...whining. The games not even out yet ffs. Get good, discuss on how to improve instead talking about something that has nothing to do with this thread. Tester FTW!
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 17:16:04
May 25 2010 17:10 GMT
#343
So basically Terran is the "protoss" of BW? We saw how that worked for toss in esports...

So far the parallel is working with the current big tournies. We very well could see an all zerg semis in the World Cup and no terran got past the ro8 in HDH (was only 1 in it).

I suppose it still stands that noone has "mastered" the race but that can be said for each race. Terran might end up having the most options and diversity but again just look at toss in BW which was the easy, cheesy, diverse race.
HUGGY
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland42 Posts
May 25 2010 17:16 GMT
#344
On May 26 2010 02:10 On_Slaught wrote:
So basically Terran is the "protoss" of BW? We saw how that worked for toss in esports...


U sir are good at sc2 i remember playing you in plat, if your the same Onslaught
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 18:46:12
May 25 2010 18:45 GMT
#345
On May 26 2010 01:41 mav451 wrote:
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On May 26 2010 01:36 Slayer91 wrote:
I'd like to find a random player who actually thinks protoss players are harder "apm wise" or micro/macro w/e than terran.

Protoss players seem to think that spamming forcefields is super skillful. Hell, I haven't seen many players do it effectively like i think white ra with the checker board [50% block out a concave, 50% block retreat of the remaining units combined with the two block forcefields
UXUXUX
XUXUXU
X = forcefields U = units.

Zerg is mostly about moving around the screen all the time with queen spewing overlord creeping creep tumours and unit positioning. [not that many people do more than 1a]
Not too much to do on a given screen so its not so much "apm"

I don't think ZvT is imbalanced I just think that people need to abuse drops and maybe nydus worms for retreat a lot more against mech play. It's not an easy way to play but i think mech is only really strong in head up battles which is not what you want to be comitting to as zerg.


Agreed - any BW Terran player who's come to SC2 is going to laugh at the notion of Toss being "harder". Even funnier is a poster actually suggested that blink "micro" is tough. I mean - wow.

I don't get the point here. They would also laugh at SC2 Terran (maybe even more), if we look at MMM play.


On May 26 2010 01:46 TheYango wrote:
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On May 26 2010 01:31 CruelZeratul wrote:
On May 26 2010 01:06 xLethargicax wrote:
On May 26 2010 00:59 Skyze wrote:
On May 26 2010 00:49 Origine wrote:
APM doesn't do all, many things can make a battle turn in another way, army positioning, using Immo's to focus heavy units etc.. if you just 1A (but the worst is that 1A works pretty well with toss) then don't cry -_-


Not really.. Protoss is the race that you have to micro the most, cant just 1A at all.. properly placed forcefields are nessisary (as we've seen in 17173 tourney, forget who it was but some toss (maybe WhiteRa?) did some bad forcefeilds, blocking out his zeals and he lost because of it with a bigger army).. Then you got storms, blink, etc..

Nothing gets more attack-move than MMM. Press stim then run them in, dont have to do anything and you clear out everything in the game. Maybe get a ghost where your insane EMP radius takes out every shield with 1 shot, there goes all templar/sentry mana, then stim 1A gg.

The saving grace in BW which made M&M balanced was the fact that medics were stupid at times, ran around and were dumb.. now with medivacs, they can never be out of position, always floating ahead, and they can even pick up weak units if the terran decides to do something more than 1A, not like they need it though.

I am scared when someone who is head and shoulders dominant like Moon or Jaedong comes to SC2, they are going to make MMM look unbeatable, microing each dying marine into dropships and such.


Are you an idiot? MMM ball takes micro if you are not bad. You obviously are terran raging, and can't beat MMM ball. Please quit making blanket statements, because I micro my marauders and marines.


Doens't change the fact, that a Protoss army usually needs more micro. What do you micro in your MMM ball after using Stim? I guess micro units back und forth, focuse important units, perhaps putting some in a Medivac. You have to do that with the Protoss army, too, but on top u have to use FF, be really carefull with your Collossi, need well placed Storms etc.

Requires more micro does not equate imbalance. PvT in SC1 is far more mechanically demanding for the Terran player than the Protoss player. That doesn't make the matchup imbalanced.

I didn't say that it is imbalanced.
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