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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
May 11 2010 02:24 GMT
#41
"The siege tanks are really great"
Tanks folks ~_~
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
May 11 2010 02:26 GMT
#42
Just as SK ran an article about how Terran hasn't been doing that well
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/29443-Terran_weak_or_just_unlucky
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
May 11 2010 02:29 GMT
#43
Why does Artosis always say in some other videos, "Of the people I've talked to on the Asia server everyone pretty much agrees that Idra is the best Zerg." But then when people are actually interviewed, no one lists him among the best players in Asia?
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 02:38:51
May 11 2010 02:29 GMT
#44
He says "we cannot predict how good it is" (because there are too few terrans) and only predicts that it will be too strong (oh that is contrary )
When they were introduced, he made a witticism, hoping to be liked. She laughed extremely hard, hoping to be liked. Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead, with the very same twist to their faces.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
May 11 2010 02:30 GMT
#45
On May 11 2010 11:19 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Artosis = Such a baller.

Keep posting sick vids and pounding Korean newbies on Asia

meh stop mis-using the word baller lol





Hey can someone explain the correct usage of the word "baller", obviously it's meaning is different in relation to the SC community than to its original basketball context.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 11 2010 02:32 GMT
#46
On May 11 2010 11:29 RyanS wrote:
Why does Artosis always say in some other videos, "Of the people I've talked to on the Asia server everyone pretty much agrees that Idra is the best Zerg." But then when people are actually interviewed, no one lists him among the best players in Asia?


Because Artosis loves to play up whoever he's got in his focus at the moment? The guy's got a hyperbolic style. That's just the way he is.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 02:36:34
May 11 2010 02:34 GMT
#47
On May 11 2010 11:21 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:15 Antimage wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:15 XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2 wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
On May 11 2010 10:40 XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2 wrote:
*haven't watched the video yet*

I think the popular consensus is that Protoss is the best and Terran is either 2nd or 3rd.

uhhh what? what popular consensus are you talking about?

Popular consensus is that Zerg is strongest followed by either Protoss or Terran depending one what race you play.


I guess it really depends on who you ask. I was under the impression that Terrans had the advantage against Zerg, Protoss have the advantage against Terrans, and PvZ was generally even.


I don't know about ZvT, but I'd say PvZ is even and T does well against P.

Didn't Browder say that among US and EU statistics, Protoss > Terran was the heaviest apparent "imbalance"?


quite frankly im tired of all these arbitrary statistics being cited by blizzard in general as their main benchmark of whether or not the game is balanced
as far as i can tell, they take the statistics from too wide a range of a player pool
(rock paper scissors is balanced too if they go solely by this win% benchmark, so its essentially worthless info imo)

they just need to forget all statistics <1600 plat rating on NA servers
they're awful




NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
May 11 2010 02:36 GMT
#48
100% agree. There are no good Terran players, so Blizzard just makes the race better to make up for their noobishness.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
May 11 2010 02:38 GMT
#49
On May 11 2010 11:30 Wargizmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:19 Fayth wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Artosis = Such a baller.

Keep posting sick vids and pounding Korean newbies on Asia

meh stop mis-using the word baller lol





Hey can someone explain the correct usage of the word "baller", obviously it's meaning is different in relation to the SC community than to its original basketball context.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller the first one is adequate
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
May 11 2010 02:39 GMT
#50
On May 11 2010 11:36 NATO wrote:
100% agree. There are no good Terran players, so Blizzard just makes the race better to make up for their noobishness.


Very likely that there just were no skilled players to choose the race.

Please don't tell me that you are immune to irony.
When they were introduced, he made a witticism, hoping to be liked. She laughed extremely hard, hoping to be liked. Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead, with the very same twist to their faces.
XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 02:54:51
May 11 2010 02:40 GMT
#51
Yeah, I think with every patch, time is needed to really gauge balance. As a Terran player, right now the thing really annoying me about Protoss is how good the Sentry abilities are, even with a damage nerf. Terrans have no Melee, so Guardian Shield is really good, and Forcefield is overpowered enough to be an upgrade IMO, but that's just me speaking as a Terran player.

I personally think Terrans have a lot of dynamic options against Zerg in the early-mid game, which is why I think Terrans generally have the advantage against Zerg. Hellions hurt throughout the game and have generally been seen as a strong opener. MMM seem to be the dominant strategy against Zerg, and pre-patch 11, ThorShip as well, with Thors 1-shotting Hydras and 2-shotting Queens, not to mention no need to research Strike Cannons. Not to mention even in the late game, Ravens hurt with Point Defense Drones doing well against Hydras and Hunter Seekers doing well against nearly every Zerg.

With the extended range of Infestors, they saw a bit more play towards the end of the last patch. Mind Controlling Thors was powerful, not to mention Fungal Growth hurt most of the Terran army as well, especially Bio Balls, with Banelings also being a nice combo with it. This gave Zerg a bit more power in the mid-late game.

I guess the whole thing comes down to whether the Terran can expand and keep the Zerg contained. I personally feel that it's a bit harder for Terrans to expand, but then again, I'm not TOO good at this game. TvZ really presents Terrans with a lot of options, but he really does need to keep the Zerg contained. Though Terrans can probably expand more easily to island expansions and that is one advantage they have on maps that have island expansions.

I guess the reason I think PvT is generally even is that neither race seems to have anything that really hurts the other, i.e. "dynamic options" as I call them. Both have strengths in that Protoss probably have the most amount of power in their Micro vs. Zerg's power to expand more easily.

Note: I recognize that I am not the best SC2 player and freely welcome criticisms to my observations. I also recognize I am only specifically pointing out specific abilities rather than the general flow of the battle, etc.
NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
May 11 2010 02:48 GMT
#52
On May 11 2010 11:39 teekesselchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:36 NATO wrote:
100% agree. There are no good Terran players, so Blizzard just makes the race better to make up for their noobishness.


Very likely that there just were no skilled players to choose the race.

Please don't tell me that you are immune to irony.


I assume you're referring to the fact that I am Terran. I switched to Terran when I realized they were OP in an attempt to understand their power, and exploit it, so that hopefully Blizzard notices. Still got some learning to do, so currently I'm just tanking the Terran stats. (Although I still have 80% win vs Toss.)
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
May 11 2010 02:52 GMT
#53
On May 11 2010 11:38 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:30 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:19 Fayth wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Artosis = Such a baller.

Keep posting sick vids and pounding Korean newbies on Asia

meh stop mis-using the word baller lol





Hey can someone explain the correct usage of the word "baller", obviously it's meaning is different in relation to the SC community than to its original basketball context.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller the first one is adequate


Thanks for the link (I had already googled it) but that really doesn't seem to be how people are using the term in relation to SC. I've heard it used to describe a unit that gets a bunch of kills or a player that uses a particularly risky strategy... this doesn't really fit with the "thug that has made it to the big time" description on urban dictionary.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
May 11 2010 02:54 GMT
#54
On May 11 2010 11:34 billyX333 wrote:
they just need to forget all statistics <1600 plat rating on NA servers
they're awful

actually im 1900 elo with about 70% win rate and i know next to nothing about this game and just win by macroing what ever units i feel like building... Very few if any people know how to properly play this game yet and we wont really know if the game is properly balanced on this current patch for atleast a few months.
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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 02:56:20
May 11 2010 02:55 GMT
#55
On May 11 2010 11:52 Wargizmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:38 theqat wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:30 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:19 Fayth wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Artosis = Such a baller.

Keep posting sick vids and pounding Korean newbies on Asia

meh stop mis-using the word baller lol





Hey can someone explain the correct usage of the word "baller", obviously it's meaning is different in relation to the SC community than to its original basketball context.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller the first one is adequate


Thanks for the link (I had already googled it) but that really doesn't seem to be how people are using the term in relation to SC. I've heard it used to describe a unit that gets a bunch of kills or a player that uses a particularly risky strategy... this doesn't really fit with the "thug that has made it to the big time" description on urban dictionary.


They're all using it incorrectly, in as much as one can use a slang term incorrectly

For a unit that gets a bunch of kills the similarity is pretty obvious--any unit could die with 0 kills, but a baller unit has hit it big

As for the risky builds, in that context people seem to use it to mean that a player has an abundance of confidence. Or maybe hubris

Don't think about it too hard. The people using the term aren't!
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
May 11 2010 02:58 GMT
#56
On May 11 2010 11:34 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:21 TheYango wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:15 Antimage wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:15 XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2 wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
On May 11 2010 10:40 XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2 wrote:
*haven't watched the video yet*

I think the popular consensus is that Protoss is the best and Terran is either 2nd or 3rd.

uhhh what? what popular consensus are you talking about?

Popular consensus is that Zerg is strongest followed by either Protoss or Terran depending one what race you play.


I guess it really depends on who you ask. I was under the impression that Terrans had the advantage against Zerg, Protoss have the advantage against Terrans, and PvZ was generally even.


I don't know about ZvT, but I'd say PvZ is even and T does well against P.

Didn't Browder say that among US and EU statistics, Protoss > Terran was the heaviest apparent "imbalance"?


quite frankly im tired of all these arbitrary statistics being cited by blizzard in general as their main benchmark of whether or not the game is balanced
as far as i can tell, they take the statistics from too wide a range of a player pool
(rock paper scissors is balanced too if they go solely by this win% benchmark, so its essentially worthless info imo)

they just need to forget all statistics <1600 plat rating on NA servers
they're awful





Not really from Blizzard's perspective as they want the game balanced for every skill level.

If the game is perfectly balanced for the top 100 pros and completely imba for the 100,000+ silver, gold and platinum leaguers then it's going to make the game less successful since it will be boring in the leagues that the majority of people play in.



HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
May 11 2010 02:59 GMT
#57
Obviously all of the best players flocked to protoss and zerg and only the biggest fucking retards are playing terran. Clearly this is just some epic nonsense spewed by protoss and zerg players to make themselves feel better about rolling terran so easily. "There just aren't any good terran players yet." Haha, how PATHETIC.
You can figure out the other half.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
May 11 2010 03:00 GMT
#58
He has a small body, or a big head, or both.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 11 2010 03:01 GMT
#59
I love how this thread has devolved into a balance discussion, with very little to do with the interview at this point.
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Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
May 11 2010 03:02 GMT
#60
On May 11 2010 11:55 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:52 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:38 theqat wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:30 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:19 Fayth wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:05 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Artosis = Such a baller.

Keep posting sick vids and pounding Korean newbies on Asia

meh stop mis-using the word baller lol





Hey can someone explain the correct usage of the word "baller", obviously it's meaning is different in relation to the SC community than to its original basketball context.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller the first one is adequate


Thanks for the link (I had already googled it) but that really doesn't seem to be how people are using the term in relation to SC. I've heard it used to describe a unit that gets a bunch of kills or a player that uses a particularly risky strategy... this doesn't really fit with the "thug that has made it to the big time" description on urban dictionary.


They're all using it incorrectly, in as much as one can use a slang term incorrectly

For a unit that gets a bunch of kills the similarity is pretty obvious--any unit could die with 0 kills, but a baller unit has hit it big

As for the risky builds, in that context people seem to use it to mean that a player has an abundance of confidence. Or maybe hubris

Don't think about it too hard. The people using the term aren't!


True that, I didn't really think about it up until now but someone criticised someone else for using the term incorrectly in this thread and I thought I'd see if anyone actually could throw some light on how it's supposed to be used, if indeed there is a correct usage.
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