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mynameisbean
Australia82 Posts
If the korean platinum statistics is what Blizzard is going to base it's buffs and nerfs on... then zerg are going to get nerfed pretty hard, pretty soon? in which case. I'm going to be REALLY curious to see how many people will continue to use zerg in the western zones, when zerg are ALREADY being spectacularly owned much more than any other species. (According to that HQ Blizzard cast Day(9) did). | ||
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Izslove
Australia69 Posts
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Fizban140
Korea (South)129 Posts
On April 25 2010 20:45 Izslove wrote: The thing is they ARE better. There is no arguing that. I wouldn't say it's being racist at all, purely national pride. You mean they are better at Brood War? I suppose it would be like a Canadian football team beating an NFL team. | ||
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araged
Czech Republic189 Posts
On April 25 2010 20:37 Fizban140 wrote: Koreans are a little racist like that, they look down on foreigners in a way. I know not all of them are like that but there is a feeling you get that they think they are better. It's also important to add that it's mostly western foreigners, I seriously doubt that any Korean looks down on Japanese or Chinese. And if so, they need some history lessons. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
Q. People say tanks are weak, and almost useless. A. Tanks were one of the most important units in SC1. However, in terms of design, I don't think it's an important unit. It's strong against Zerg, but it's not good against Protoss. Immortals, void rays, and the gravitron beam from phoenix counter them. We don't want to make it an absolutely crucial unit like in SC1. Fine, but could you maybe cost it appropriately then? Making the tank weaker (due to a plethora of counters) and making it cost more doesn't make sense  On April 25 2010 21:04 araged wrote: It's also important to add that it's mostly western foreigners, I seriously doubt that any Korean looks down on Japanese or Chinese. And if so, they need some history lessons. .... In my experience, China/Korea/Japan can do a pretty fine job of hating eachother. A certain "garage nation" flamewar between Korea/China after one of the IEF tournaments (or was it that other one whose name ecapes me, eitherway, Korea/China event) comes to mind  | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On April 25 2010 21:04 araged wrote: It's also important to add that it's mostly western foreigners, I seriously doubt that any Korean looks down on Japanese or Chinese. And if so, they need some history lessons. ....lol There is a lot of anti racial sentiment among the three races, ESPECIALLY involving people from older generations. Keep in mind the Japanese occupation of China and also the fact that the tension between Japan and China goes back thousands of years. Of course, not ALL Koreans/Japanese/Chinese are racist, but there is a significant portion of each that exhibits a lot of nationalism, elitism, and racial hatred. Savior was absolutely pissed beyond all hell when he lost to PJ at WCG 07. It is very hard to balance SCII though. Especially since having balanced statistics NOW does not guarantee that they will be balanced later. For all we know, over time a T/Z/P player might develop a strat that makes one match up really lopsided and it might stay that way for a very long time. I trust Blizzard is doing its best and overall I think they are doing a much better job than most RTS developers. | ||
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Izslove
Australia69 Posts
On April 25 2010 21:04 araged wrote: It's also important to add that it's mostly western foreigners, I seriously doubt that any Korean looks down on Japanese or Chinese. And if so, they need some history lessons. I don't understand what you're trying to imply here? So because they think they are better than foreigners in a game and they have pride in that they should go back though the history books for what reason? Seriously what are some of you 12 or something. It was in no way shape or form a question asked to invoke racism. Edit: I wonder if people will stop playing just 1 race in tournys and simply start counter picking what race they think fares better for each MU. | ||
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z]Benny
Romania253 Posts
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jtgizmo
Congo161 Posts
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OHtRUe
United States283 Posts
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On April 25 2010 23:43 OHtRUe wrote: Terran now rapes prottoss everyway. Early game you can be super aggressive again with 2 rax marauder with concussive and if you survive his initial push you win pretty much. You also can do 4 rax marine FE which is ridicolously hard to stop as toss. really dont understand how they think TvP is in toss's favor.... It has something to do with the fact that Protoss has a 55% win rate over Terran overall on the US Servers. It's quite strange how many people claim that Terran rapes Protoss and yet Protoss has a 55% win rate over Terran. Do Terrans like to completely rape Protoss players with their "overpowered mass marauders" and then quit the game afterward to intentionally give Protoss inflated wins? Maybe it's all a big beta conspiracy. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On April 25 2010 16:36 QibingZero wrote: Someone show this man some SK Terran please! yea terrans that are like lololool i'll go sk terran and whne all else fails i'll just split the map and make 20000 tanks ! D: haha ok i dont really have much other input to sc2 | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
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UbiNax
Denmark381 Posts
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Paladia
802 Posts
On April 25 2010 23:54 Kyo Yuy wrote: You call it a "fact", so please state the source of said fact.It has something to do with the fact that Protoss has a 55% win rate over Terran overall on the US Servers. | ||
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TheTuna
United States286 Posts
On April 26 2010 00:13 Paladia wrote: You call it a "fact", so please state the source of said fact. Forget exactly where, but a month or so ago someone at Blizzard was quoted as saying Protoss had a much higher winrate than T or Z. Or it might have been a study on TL. Either way, he's correct that Toss do win more. | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
Interesting that terran is the most popular race, despite being the weakest(alledgedly) . | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On April 26 2010 00:13 Paladia wrote: You call it a "fact", so please state the source of said fact. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121072 Releasing a patch that doesn't nerf protoss: Patches have different aims. Sometimes they're based on balancing race matchups, but oftentimes not. For example, the ZvZ matchup was stale because they were only making 3 units. The reasons for the patch are that statistically speaking, protoss is winning a lot. ZvT and ZvP have only 1% win-loss differential. However PvT is at around a 55% win rate. Unless you think Blizzard HQ is an unreliable source. If that's the case then I don't know what to say. | ||
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Paladia
802 Posts
On April 26 2010 00:14 TheTuna wrote: Forget exactly where, but a month or so ago someone at Blizzard was quoted as saying Protoss had a much higher winrate than T or Z. Or it might have been a study on TL. Either way, he's correct that Toss do win more. I'm fairly certain that is another lie. I find it most unlikely that Blizzard would say that a race has a "much higher winrate". Please, if you stomach to call something a fact, do provide said fact. However, I would very much like to see where this "fact" of Protoss having (currently) a 55% win rate against Terran is from. | ||
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