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On April 21 2010 13:49 LaiShin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 13:37 han- wrote: I use the Logitech Illuminated because i'm a flat keys fan. Also it looks really cool.
A fan of flat keys myself. This looks great. How long have you been using them? and how's the durability of the keys?
I use it for about 6 months and i'm having no problem whatsoever. Quite solid keyboard overall with resistant keys.
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On March 23 2010 17:40 FREEloss_ca wrote: Razor is also coming out with a Sc2 Keytboard.
im going to buy it.
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My bro has one of those high g-17s or higher, i forget, and loves the thing.
I have always just used regular 15-25$ logitechs with little to nothing special about it.
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I used to have a G15 until it broke. The macro keys sounded good for games but were to far away. Could do the same manually instead of moving my hand out of position to press one of those.
Still loved the keyboard thanks to the buttons and lcd. But I used it more outside of games
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i'll stick with my saitek eclipse II till the end of time
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wtf who uses those keyboards? Imma just bust out my old crappy hp keyboard from like 2001 that was made in china. The thing is still beast
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On March 23 2010 18:36 Arveene wrote: I use an old school IBM model M. It's great when I'm going through my production buildings and you hear a ton of *click clacks* from my keyboard. No windows key is always nice too when gaming, but SC2 has an option to disable it. =x
hey, i have one of these too! lol. mine was made in 1983... as old as i am. i dyed the all the keys and sprayed the cover black, so it look pretty spiffy (also also keeps people who can't touch type off of my computer). it's a little bit of a hassle looking for motherboards that support PS2 keyboards properly tho.
click clack is awesome, unless you happen to be trying to sleep and someone else is typing on your computer -___-
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will macros make a huge difference to top players gaming?
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no top player would youse macros.
topic: currently useing my "idontknowhowmanyyearsold" g11 which really is at the end of its live. not going to buy one again. im waiting for what sc2 keyboard rarzer is going to sell. if i dont like it will go with the steelseries g7.
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On April 21 2010 16:48 douji wrote: hey, i have one of these too! lol. mine was made in 1983... as old as i am. i dyed the all the keys and sprayed the cover black, so it look pretty spiffy (also also keeps people who can't touch type off of my computer). it's a little bit of a hassle looking for motherboards that support PS2 keyboards properly tho.
click clack is awesome, unless you happen to be trying to sleep and someone else is typing on your computer -___- they only started making those ibm model m keyboards in 1986 i think they were serial connection only up to around 1988 or so as well.you can buy new unicomps with usb (same factory as old ibm keyboards) but yeah mechanical keyboards > membrane keyboards , the difference in quality is insane
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bitches don't know about my lasers
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The major advantage of gaming keyboards is "anti ghosting". This means that you can press as many keys at a time as there are keys.
I mainly feel that this is an issue when playing FPS games though. My current old HP keyboard works great for SC but when playing FPS games I can't sprint diagonally forward and then crouch (with shift+ctrl).
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Cherry Keyboard all live long ... :D
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SC2 Keyboard? My god, this is a competitive game, not freaking WoW.
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There are those with gaming keyboards and then there is me with my laptop. HP Pavilion dv6700, has done me well enough over the years and I don't plan on switching anytime soon. Only problem is my 1 key sticks or doesn't respond same with my tab key. Must been from so much use or just age.
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I'm looking torwards the Razer Arctosa for StarCraft II. A good gaming keyboard with low keys (something you want in a massive APM game like StarCraft).
As for the DT-35.. Same as mouses: Even a Logitech mini is enough for StarCraft, but it surely won't cut it for StarCraft II. It may not be so dramatic as with mouses (as the resolution in SC2 is a lot higher), but i expect it to simular.. You do need a gaming keyboard. It won't make a low-skilled player any better, but it will improve the gameplay of pro's (like a good baseball bat).
Then again, I do not have a BETA key. I only talk based from all the forums, gamer interviews i've read and videos i've watch.
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On April 21 2010 16:08 jamie wrote: i'll stick with my saitek eclipse II till the end of time im using saitek eclipse 1, didn't want the #2 due to wanting a minimally featured keyboard.. basically full size with volume -/+ and mute. works great.
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On April 21 2010 23:38 ExecutioN wrote: Even a Logitech mini is enough for StarCraft, but it surely won't cut it for StarCraft II.
What are you talking about? I use a Logitech Mini Optical for both SC1 and SC2 (1680x1050) and it performs superbly for both and I've already tried fancy laser and infrared mice such as the G9, G5, G3, and Razer Abyssus (G3 comes close though).
Nothing beats the LMO for RTS games if you use fingertip/claw grip and is probably the best mouse ever made (IMO, at least).
On April 21 2010 23:38 ExecutioN wrote: You do need a gaming keyboard. It won't make a low-skilled player any better, but it will improve the gameplay of pro's (like a good baseball bat).
Have you watched any Starcraft VODs of the Korean pro scene? They almost all use the DT-35, which is a cheap and widely manufactured membrane keyboard, which can be had for less than $15 in Korea. The vast majority of gaming keyboards (i.e. Razer boards, Logitech G11, even the $200 G19) use the same exact membrane/rubber dome mechanism and has the same feel. The only difference is the crazy design, macro keys (which are in no way used by higher level SC players), gaudy LCD displays, and marketing schemes. For RTS, it just doesn't matter very much, and if the player had any sense, he would spend the extra cash on a high end mechanical board instead of falling trap to ridiculous offerings of Logitech and Razer. For FPS and other genres, I can't comment because I'm not sure.
In the end, I've toyed around with many different components of varying price ranges ($10 - $135 keyboards, $8 - $60 mice, $1 - high end anodized aluminum mouse pads) and I've come to a conclusion that you don't need expensive equipment to play Starcraft effectively. You can get an LMO or any cheap optical for under $10, a membrane keyboard for about the same, and rummage a cheap mousepad with a decent surface. It's just important to get accustomed to whatever equipment you use by using it consistently to become fully comfortable with it.
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