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That's not really a keyboard... It's a macro pad. Its usefulness is honestly pretty limited, but I do have one that I have used on occasion for certain MMO's. Mine is the old Nostromo, though.
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On April 21 2010 12:48 HeartOfTofu wrote:That's not really a keyboard... It's a macro pad. Its usefulness is honestly pretty limited, but I do have one that I have used on occasion for certain MMO's. Mine is the old Nostromo, though.
Yeah I have that same pad from the pic and it's super easy for pretty much anything. I'm not going to use it for SC2 just because it would become a crutch in my game play.
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On March 23 2010 18:40 GTR wrote:
i use a logitech g15 with the macro keys ripped out with a butter knife
lol sounds awesome
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Using my laptop keyboard... whoosh.
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i need to get rid of this wireless keyboard, it skips commands when my am goes up which really is something i dont need. but i really like the smooth buttons on the keyboard, just not the response time.
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can anyone specify the difference between Samsung QSENN SEM-DT35 and any generic logitech keyboard? Why is it better for sc? Because of that plastic membrane?
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On March 23 2010 18:40 GTR wrote:
i use a logitech g15 with the macro keys ripped out with a butter knife
Just out of curiosity, why bother paying the price premium for a G15 if you're going to rip out the macro keys? The macro keys are pretty much the only thing that makes that keyboard worth buying over tons of cheaper keyboards of higher quality...
On April 21 2010 13:22 rei wrote:
can anyone specify the difference between Samsung QSENN SEM-DT35 and any generic logitech keyboard? Why is it better for sc? Because of that plastic membrane?
I think the primary difference is that the DT35 is ridiculously hyped. As for why it's supposedly better for SC, I've honestly no idea. Someone somewhere liked it and it just caught on. In reality any keyboard you're familiar with and accustomed to is just as good for SC or any other game for the matter. I know several people that have paid the extra money to buy the DT35 and hated it. So yeah...
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I'm on a razer lycosa. Simple keyboard and works nicely.
Pciture
I'd highly recommend it if you feel like forking out extra money. I bought it out of support for the razer TSL
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On April 21 2010 13:37 han- wrote:I use the Logitech Illuminated because i'm a flat keys fan. Also it looks really cool. ![[image loading]](http://uppix.net/e/c/c/fcad272602b2d588a1970bd57655f.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://uppix.net/9/f/9/54086e625aa1cf77e839566105c21.jpg) Close-ups + Show Spoiler +
A fan of flat keys myself. This looks great. How long have you been using them? and how's the durability of the keys?
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Anyone know what SC1 Samsung the OP is referring to? I don't remember any keyboard "dominating" all of sc1.
My keyboard:
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I collect computer accessories and I have the following keyboards that I've used for Starcraft:
Samsung QSENN DT-35 (membrane)
Logitech diNovo Edge (scissor switch)
Filco Majestouch 104-key Tactile Touch (mechanical Cherry MX Brown)
Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless Tactile Click (mechanical Cherry MX Blue)
To start off, The DT-35 is basically like any typical membrane keyboard, as far as I'm concerned. It feels much like any cheap Dell keyboard out there. For the vast majority of membrane keyboard users out there (95% ish of Desktop keyboards are membrane), it's not worth getting a DT-35. The nice thing is that it does have a small footprint and membrane keyboards are actually quite decent for gaming - there is a medium pressure required for actuation and gives a tactile feel when pressed. The downside is that the keys will wear out fast and the key return speed is the slowest so double-tapping hotkeys will take a split second longer and the keys feel mushy in general. I've personally condemned this keyboard because of the tiny backspace.
The diNovo edge is a premium grade HTPC keyboard that uses a scissor switch mechanism, which is used on many laptops. The keyboard is thus very quiet and has a short distance of travel. It also has a faster return speed and a "bouncier" feel. I actually prefer this keyboard to the DT-35 for Starcraft because of a snappier feeling and short travel times. The downside is that even scissor switches will wear with extended periods of use and many players are turned off by the short travel distance of the keys.
The Filco keyboards are high end mechanical keyboards. I have one using Cherry MX Brown switches (very light, no click, slight tactile feel) and Cherry MX Blue (medium pressure, audible click, and tactile). These keyboards have obvious advantages over standard membrane and scissor switch keyboards - they are extremely durable and have many years of usage and the keys will maintain the same feel through their entire lifespan. They also have the fastest key return speed and each key feels individual instead of the mushy feeling you might get from using a membrane. The Tactile touch version (Cherry MX Brown) are great for Starcraft but haven't gamed with the Cherry Blues enough to make a judgement. They come at a huge price premium however, at over $100 for a board, but are a good investment if you type a lot and are into techy stuff. Both the Blue and Brown switches (especially the Blues) are a dream to type on.
In the end, for a game like Starcraft, there really is no "best" keyboard as it all comes down to preference. I can't say spending a huge premium on a mechanical keyboard will ever make you a better player and honestly, it probably won't. After experimenting with this wide array of keyboards, I understand why the korean pros don't need fancy mechanical boards in their play - it just doesn't make that much of a difference. For a typist that's a completely different story. My suggestion - don't pay a huge premium for a branded "gaming" keyboard. They essentially all use membrane switches (an exception being the Steelseries 7G, which uses Cherry MX Black and some other boards), but they will feel the same as any other membrane including the DT-35. What you're paying for are the macro keys, ridiculous LCD displays, and clever marketing behind those products.
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SEM-DT35 is comfortable and all, but i'm not sure if the extra money is worth it right away. If you want keys with nice feel and that then team up with a bunch of guys and order a batch of keyboards so you could save with shipping. That way i guess it's reasonable.
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I think the only more function that keyboard has is for replays and b.net But i cant read much on that picture tbh.
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On March 24 2010 02:34 Hanno wrote:
I also have the cyborg, but unfortunately the keys are pretty mushy. I wouldn't recommend it unless you really must have flashy multicolor back-lighting.
I must.
loled. I was about to post about how I don't have it in me to get a hard on for keyboards, but I'm impressed by the way you embrace this.
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looks like a keyboard you can buy at best buy for $19.99 only with a sc2 sticker - automatically raising the price to $89.99
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The stickers add 100 APM
(joking)
I'm currently using a lycosa but the keys feel kinda "sticky" somehow... I like it for FPS but I'm hoping the ABS M1 I ordered (thanks for the hot deal tip TL!) performs better for RTS. We'll see.
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I got a G15 a while back and I'm still using it. It works great. Although the letters on the keys I used for moving around in WoW are completely worn off hehe. I don't think its time for an upgrade yet. The macro buttons are to far out of the way to be useful to me for SC2. However I would assign macro functions to my mouse if I thought of something I'd find useful. I had a ton of things macro'd to it in WoW because I ran out of easy to hit keyboard combos. They would be much easier to hit quickly. I took a look at the Razor Lycosa. I like the macro software for that one. Apparently you can make any key into a macro. Sounds pretty sweet. I shouldn't be buying things I don't need though  .
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