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Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
June 23 2010 18:31 GMT
#181
I think it's personal preference. I like the cheapest keyboards, did so before I got into competitive sc too. I just like to really feel what I'm pushing and am used to the push distance and required strength of the big key keyboards. I really dig the check board trick, have been using it for a year or so.. don't think it had any kind of a dramatic effect but I just think it's cool :D..
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
June 23 2010 18:41 GMT
#182
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On June 21 2010 14:38 surLoop wrote:
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On June 21 2010 11:31 Logo wrote:
The mechanical keyboard, in my opinion, also provides a smoother feel and a springier return as you lift up your finger. Kind of hard to describe. There are mechanical keyboards without the tactile feel, the one I got doesn't have much of one.

As for price and what not, it all comes down to what it's worth to you. Not having my fingers feel stiff and what not was worth the price to me. It's certainly not something that directly helps you play better, but if your keyboard is giving you problems or fatiguing your hands it may help.

@sc2lime You don't want a blue switch. Blues are more geared towards typing because of the large tactile bump and a higher amount of force required.

So it comes down to brown and black. My understanding is that you're looking at a trade-off in this situation. Browns have a small tactile bump by take less force. Blacks have no bump, but take a little bit more force. For me the reason I wanted a mechanical keyboard was a light and smooth press, using a membrane keyboard was tiring out my hands (I program so I type a lot). So I went with the browns and it's been working well for me. Blacks are also a good choice because they lack the tactile bump which is nice for fast key presses.

There's also a fabled red switch which has the lack of a tactile bump and less force like brown switches. It'd be the best choice except it's only available in china from the original maker of the Filco keyboards .


In my experience blues and browns are the same except for the clickyness of the blue switches when you hit the tactile bump. As for gaming i prefer either the blue or brown compared to the black switches because they have that softer feel. My favorite is blue because i love the clicky sound register however if you live with someone and have high apm they may want to kill you. Best bet for most people is usually the brown mechanicals, however if you like a harder feel try the blacks.


Interesting! I didn't realize that the blues still had less force required than the blacks.

Still wish we could get red switches here in the state (no bump & force of a blue/brown)
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nemukud
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania42 Posts
June 23 2010 18:48 GMT
#183
On June 24 2010 03:10 Chaoz wrote:
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On June 24 2010 03:04 nemukud wrote:
Hello guys,

I am planning to buy a Microsoft Sidewinder X6. Not specifically for SC 2, but I just love some of its functionalities.

I was curious if anyone played Starcraft on this keyboard. I know some of the keys are not where they should be and I want to know if that may affect my gameplay.

Here's a pic:
[image loading]


I see nothing wrong with the keys. The only difference from common keyboards is that you can change the number pad to the left, and no long uses the numberpad for Starcraft.


If you look at the esc and function keys you will easily notice the difference. They are more to the left. Don't know if esc might be a problem as I don't really use it in game and the function keys might be placed better as they are easier to reach with left hand once you get used to the new position.

The real concern is with the bottom line of keys (ctrl/alt/space). It seems they don't have the standard size. It is harder to notice in the picture but just look at the position of right alt key relative to "<" & ">" keys.
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Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
June 23 2010 18:50 GMT
#184
razer lycosa

expensive, but shallow "clicky" buttons and low profile ftw
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Adsee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States221 Posts
June 23 2010 19:13 GMT
#185
On June 24 2010 03:41 Logo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2010 14:38 surLoop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2010 11:31 Logo wrote:
The mechanical keyboard, in my opinion, also provides a smoother feel and a springier return as you lift up your finger. Kind of hard to describe. There are mechanical keyboards without the tactile feel, the one I got doesn't have much of one.

As for price and what not, it all comes down to what it's worth to you. Not having my fingers feel stiff and what not was worth the price to me. It's certainly not something that directly helps you play better, but if your keyboard is giving you problems or fatiguing your hands it may help.

@sc2lime You don't want a blue switch. Blues are more geared towards typing because of the large tactile bump and a higher amount of force required.

So it comes down to brown and black. My understanding is that you're looking at a trade-off in this situation. Browns have a small tactile bump by take less force. Blacks have no bump, but take a little bit more force. For me the reason I wanted a mechanical keyboard was a light and smooth press, using a membrane keyboard was tiring out my hands (I program so I type a lot). So I went with the browns and it's been working well for me. Blacks are also a good choice because they lack the tactile bump which is nice for fast key presses.

There's also a fabled red switch which has the lack of a tactile bump and less force like brown switches. It'd be the best choice except it's only available in china from the original maker of the Filco keyboards .


In my experience blues and browns are the same except for the clickyness of the blue switches when you hit the tactile bump. As for gaming i prefer either the blue or brown compared to the black switches because they have that softer feel. My favorite is blue because i love the clicky sound register however if you live with someone and have high apm they may want to kill you. Best bet for most people is usually the brown mechanicals, however if you like a harder feel try the blacks.


Interesting! I didn't realize that the blues still had less force required than the blacks.

Still wish we could get red switches here in the state (no bump & force of a blue/brown)


Cherry Reds do look nice, however, I'm, a huge fan of that bump i get from using the keys, makes it feel like I'm actually hitting the keys and getting a reaction.
Anfere
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada231 Posts
June 24 2010 01:12 GMT
#186
i have the lycosa and it's just the best keyboard i ever used. Blue DEL light, non-slip keys, anti-ghosting, the wrist rest feels great, usually i don't use it and just take it off, but with this one, it's just convenient and it does it's job.

The macro options are really great, you can assign macros to any of you'r keyboard keys easily and set up 10 different profiles that you can switch easily whenever you want, or just match a profile to a certain game/application and it will swap to that profile when you launch the game.

I had a G15 before, which cost like 30/40 $ more than the lycosa, but is inferior to it in my opinion. On the G15 the macro keys at the sides aren't that easy to reach, you have to use the G keys for you'r macros and i just find them too far from my normal fingers/hand position so in the end i rarely used them. Over all the look, and the options of the Lycosa are really great, it's a great keyboard if you have some money to spend on gaming gear i definitely recommend it.
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limmm
Profile Joined August 2010
3 Posts
August 07 2010 23:51 GMT
#187
right now I'm using the imperator with the adjustable sliding side thumb buttons and I use both keys as macros; for example if I'm playing terran v protoss and I want to go mmm

I'll switch to the right profile on my mouse; and hit one button and i'tll select all my racks and build marine marauder marine marauder or marine maurader marine marine etc.. other button does another macro related to economy

for my keyboard I'm using an apple keyboard http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MB869LL-A-Keyboard/dp/B001UH4VFW its keys are very low and flat like a laptops which I find easier for higher APM
Kurai
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada167 Posts
August 08 2010 01:47 GMT
#188
razer arctosa yeeeeeeeeee
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 08 2010 01:50 GMT
#189
On August 08 2010 10:47 Kurai wrote:
razer arctosa yeeeeeeeeee
Iam with ya :D I bought a lycosa but the only difference between the two is blue LEDs and rubbery keys. So i returned my lycosa and saved my self 30$
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nanii
Profile Joined July 2010
France30 Posts
August 10 2010 22:02 GMT
#190
What's the advantages/disadvanteges of the steelseries 7g/falco because their prices are close?
Khao
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada58 Posts
August 11 2010 16:56 GMT
#191
Been thinking of getting a new ergonomic keyboard (the wave type with the split in the middle), I realize most gamers avoid this type of keyboard but I'm very curious as to why - considering the amount of time they game 0_o
MICHELLE
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)199 Posts
August 11 2010 16:59 GMT
#192
Dt35, problem solved
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silencesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States464 Posts
August 11 2010 17:09 GMT
#193
I was thinking of getting the Razer Marauder, mostly because the lights are really cool, but now I'm looking into a macro/programmable one. Any standouts?
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Jonray
Profile Joined August 2010
United States37 Posts
August 18 2010 15:18 GMT
#194
On June 24 2010 03:04 nemukud wrote:
Hello guys,

I am planning to buy a Microsoft Sidewinder X6. Not specifically for SC 2, but I just love some of its functionalities.

I was curious if anyone played Starcraft on this keyboard. I know some of the keys are not where they should be and I want to know if that may affect my gameplay.

Here's a pic:
[image loading]

I've been using my X6 for over a year now. Really like the keyboard. Although I liked the concept of moving the numberpad to the left, I found that it made it really hard for me to find the "home keys" when I started typing. Visually it just feels "wrong" to have that much keyboard to the left of my hands.

The keys themselves are a decent size and although a couple of the keys on the left edge of the main board are smaller, not by so much that you'd notice.

I have avoided using any of the keyboard macro tools for it. Mostly because of similar thoughts to what others have stated. I don't want to get used to a "crutch" like a one-key drone spawn and then have it taken away from me once I get to the point where I can compete and they outlaw such things.

On August 12 2010 01:56 Khao wrote:
Been thinking of getting a new ergonomic keyboard (the wave type with the split in the middle), I realize most gamers avoid this type of keyboard but I'm very curious as to why - considering the amount of time they game 0_o

I think the main reason is when you have to crossup your hands (e.g. using the left hand to press a number '7' group key). I used to use the original Microsoft Natural keyboard for most of my typing and it worked great. But it's made for touch typing using "proper" technique. When you try to reach keys with the "wrong" fingers, you'll find you have to look down a lot to make sure you're hitting the right one.
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