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Coloring is so borked in SC2 - Page 2

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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
March 06 2010 21:07 GMT
#21
Yeah lowering the graphics settings helps quite a bit, but that is sort of a cop out imo. I shouldn't have to play on low graphics settings just to tell what units are mine. Luckily I play terran and it usually isn't that big of an issue for terran. Marauders can be a bit of a pain sometimes, but the other units are generally pretty clear.

Overall the models need more team colors imo. Compare a marine to a marauder. The marine is mostly colored by the team color it belongs too ... but the marauder is mostly black/gray.
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StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
March 06 2010 21:10 GMT
#22
On March 07 2010 06:07 789 wrote:
Yeah lowering the graphics settings helps quite a bit, but that is sort of a cop out imo. I shouldn't have to play on low graphics settings just to tell what units are mine. Luckily I play terran and it usually isn't that big of an issue for terran. Marauders can be a bit of a pain sometimes, but the other units are generally pretty clear.

Overall the models need more team colors imo. Compare a marine to a marauder. The marine is mostly colored by the team color it belongs too ... but the marauder is mostly black/gray.


Zerg vs zerg battles on creep are also hard to figure out who is who.
KCrazy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States278 Posts
March 06 2010 21:18 GMT
#23
i think one of problems is that the atmospheric coloring is interferring with visibility. For instance, on maps that are nighttime, all of the buildings, units, and scenary have this blueish low contrast happening. While it looks pretty, and camouflages the units making them hard to identify. Just tweaking the colors on units and buildings to make em brighter, will help a lot. Also, Imo, the player colors should be almost fluorescent.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 06 2010 21:22 GMT
#24
At first I actually couldn't find the other team's zealots... I thought they all belonged to the same side... but then i realized that the group of 4 zealots near the ramp were slightly different colouring...
The reason why it worked so well in BW though was that the team colours had such a contrast. Since all of the colours are darker in SC2, it becomes a harder to distinguish.

Also, I wish that people would stop being such asses and just concede facts when they are pointed out. Instead people jump all over these posts and say, "Stop complaining! Your opinions don't matter... blah blah blah." The fact is, the colours ARE harder to distinguish. If you don't agree, then attack the statement, not the person...

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Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
March 06 2010 21:24 GMT
#25
alt + f the solution to all your problems.
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SnakeRandis
Profile Joined May 2008
United States11 Posts
March 06 2010 21:25 GMT
#26
I really hope they open up three colors for players: Main, Secondary, and a Trim. That way one player could have blue, white with yellow trim and another purple, red, with green trim. Make true unique looks for players.

It's probably too late though.
BeJe77
Profile Joined April 2006
United States377 Posts
March 06 2010 21:25 GMT
#27
Zerg vs Zerg is terrible, can't recall the number of times I tried to select enemy units or forget my own because I taught they were enemies

They need to make the coloring really NOTICEABLE its really annoying.
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
March 06 2010 21:26 GMT
#28
alt + f does the same thing as shift + tab in broodwar for the people that don't know this yet.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 06 2010 21:26 GMT
#29
Not that anyone in this thread have been negative... I'm just trying thinking about all of the other threads I've been reading lately. "Oh, I've noticed that this aspect of the game might need tweaking." "Oh shut up you n00b and just enjoy what you have! I don't have a problem and if you were a pro, you'd like it too." Man, those types of replies are annoying...
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StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
March 06 2010 21:28 GMT
#30
On March 07 2010 06:25 BeJe77 wrote:
Zerg vs Zerg is terrible, can't recall the number of times I tried to select enemy units or forget my own because I taught they were enemies

They need to make the coloring really NOTICEABLE its really annoying.


This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
March 06 2010 21:29 GMT
#31
On March 07 2010 06:24 Ziph wrote:
alt + f the solution to all your problems.


And does this fix the Zerg vs Zerg coloring issue on creep?
MrRey
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-06 21:32:49
March 06 2010 21:31 GMT
#32
Well I'm not into beta (i wish i could say "im not into beta 'yet!', but i lost all hopes :D), so I watch a lot of streams of various quality.

And I must agree with the original post, this is really, really hard to say who's who and it really is a huge and major concern to me.

I also watched some replays, and as far as I am concerned, it's not as clearer as it was in SC:BW, especially if you're to watch a zvz.


Oh, and by the way, do not even try watching 2v2, it's just wrong.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 06 2010 21:33 GMT
#33
Maybe to make the units in 2v2 easier to distinguish, they should introduce a fourth race... hehe.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
March 06 2010 21:34 GMT
#34
Ironically lowering your graphic settings fixes this problem
here i am
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
March 06 2010 21:35 GMT
#35
On March 07 2010 06:34 wintergt wrote:
Ironically lowering your graphic settings fixes this problem


Or going back to SC1
MeruFM
Profile Joined February 2010
United States167 Posts
March 06 2010 21:37 GMT
#36
On March 07 2010 06:26 kingjames01 wrote:
Not that anyone in this thread have been negative... I'm just trying thinking about all of the other threads I've been reading lately. "Oh, I've noticed that this aspect of the game might need tweaking." "Oh shut up you n00b and just enjoy what you have! I don't have a problem and if you were a pro, you'd like it too." Man, those types of replies are annoying...


It seems like a pretty complicated fix really. I mean, they probably understand the problem but are trying to find ways to fix it. Better just add a complaint on the b.net forums than rant off here for a couple minutes when full time paid programmers/artists/designers have probably contemplated the coloring issues for weeks if not months.

The whiner side is also just as annoying, you just put a polar spin on them. From what I can see, it's often something like "Oh my god, blizzard has killed starcraft 2 and here's why... blah blah blah" so they're not much better than the responses.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 06 2010 21:37 GMT
#37
Yeah, maybe for the player... However, if and when SC2 tries to start up as a "spectator sport", the games would be more aesthetically pleasing to me if they were broadcast in higher resolution. At that point, if the colour problem were not addressed, I'd be confused and have to wait for the end of a battle to figure out who actually survived...
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
BeJe77
Profile Joined April 2006
United States377 Posts
March 06 2010 21:40 GMT
#38
On March 07 2010 06:37 MeruFM wrote:
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On March 07 2010 06:26 kingjames01 wrote:
Not that anyone in this thread have been negative... I'm just trying thinking about all of the other threads I've been reading lately. "Oh, I've noticed that this aspect of the game might need tweaking." "Oh shut up you n00b and just enjoy what you have! I don't have a problem and if you were a pro, you'd like it too." Man, those types of replies are annoying...


It seems like a pretty complicated fix really. I mean, they probably understand the problem but are trying to find ways to fix it. Better just add a complaint on the b.net forums than rant off here for a couple minutes when full time paid programmers/artists/designers have probably contemplated the coloring issues for weeks if not months.

The whiner side is also just as annoying, you just put a polar spin on them. From what I can see, it's often something like "Oh my god, blizzard has killed starcraft 2 and here's why... blah blah blah" so they're not much better than the responses.


Well the whole point of beta is to find issues and for them to fix them if Coloring is an issue and people notice it, then they will complain about it. It's simple as that :D...

The only thing we can do is complain and wait for official reply if its being addressed :p
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 06 2010 21:41 GMT
#39
Yeah I couldn't tell the difference at all. They really should change this.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 06 2010 21:46 GMT
#40
Yeah, I definitely agree about the whiners too! "WAAH! The game is broken!"
I say, if you have a complaint, then propose a solution.

Anyway, I do agree that the sides are hard to make out. My original post was really about the b.net forum that the OP linked to. The responses are generally that either there is no problem IF you have a great computer, there is no problem if YOU are the one playing or that the colour contrasts so well, that if you can't tell the difference, you must be blind...
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
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