HotS Balance Update #3 [9/20/2012] - Page 11

On September 21 2012 06:13 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
does the battle hellion then need bio upgrades?

On September 21 2012 06:09 mahi29 wrote:

I can't believe you're complaining about the widow mine being 2 supply. Its splash does 60 dmg - one shotting workers, marines, lings etc. And with sc2's pathfinding clumping units together, 1 or 2 mines can do ridiculous damage. How exactly would it be fair if they can be produced 2 at a time and are 1 supply? Wow

On September 21 2012 04:58 ant-1 wrote:


That's unfortunately true. I really thought blizzard wanted the WM to be a zone-controlling unit, not an harassing unit (like T need another one).
Jesus, baneling drops without having to wait for drops + ventral sacs + +2 upgrade (you still need an armory, right?). un-fucking-believable.

On September 21 2012 06:14 Zanno wrote:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Spider_Mine

spider mines were 25 minerals and you get a free vulture too

as long as widow mines can be diffused by detection they cannot be balanced at any supply cost

On September 21 2012 06:14 Crawdad wrote:


Why is everyone asking this ridiculous question? No, of course not.

On September 21 2012 06:14 Garmer wrote:
so now hellion can have + 6 upgrade?

On September 21 2012 06:14 Crawdad wrote:


Why is everyone asking this ridiculous question? No, of course not.

On September 21 2012 06:16 SpikeStarcraft wrote:


why not? bio needs bio upgrades.

On September 21 2012 06:17 Roachu wrote:

Why is it a ridiculous question? Classifying a transforming bipedal dune buggy as a bio unit is ridiculous to begin with.

On September 21 2012 06:21 Jerom wrote:
The battlehelion change is in my eyes absolutely amazing (Although it doesn't make any sense, but the gameplay drastically improves I think).

It allows Terran mech play to be more aggresive, because T can now actually make medivacs without simply wasting resources on a unit that will be utterly useless for the rest of the game apart from dropping. That should be exciting to watch at the very least, because as it stands right now (before the battlehelion change) Terran mech against Protoss honestly seems overly passive (aka just massing up a big tank ball). On top of that it probably is the buff that Terran mech needs against protoss to actually be able to soak up enough damage with their helions (otherwise the helions just die and immortals kill off the tanks with ease).

The thing that makes me the most excited is that it probably allows Terran to biomech against Toss (Marines, BH, medivacs and Siege tanks) since the battle helions actually benefit from the medivacs. I think this style will become pretty nice vs Toss, which allows T to do 3 different things vs protoss which is absolutely amazing.

I am a bit concerned about battlehelions in TvZ though... They might just completely break the match up in the way they are right now, but maybe Zerg can deal with it (especially with their new units).

On September 21 2012 06:21 Jerom wrote:
The battlehelion change is in my eyes absolutely amazing (Although it doesn't make any sense, but the gameplay drastically improves I think).

It allows Terran mech play to be more aggresive, because T can now actually make medivacs without simply wasting resources on a unit that will be utterly useless for the rest of the game apart from dropping. That should be exciting to watch at the very least, because as it stands right now (before the battlehelion change) Terran mech against Protoss honestly seems overly passive (aka just massing up a big tank ball). On top of that it probably is the buff that Terran mech needs against protoss to actually be able to soak up enough damage with their helions (otherwise the helions just die and immortals kill off the tanks with ease).