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Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
September 07 2012 21:06 GMT
#1
We will be bringing down the beta server today at 2:30 PM PDT in order to perform a few balance changes. We do not expect a lengthy downtime and will report to this thread when the service is live after the maintenance. Below are the changes being implemented:

BALANCE CHANGES

- Warhound Weapon attack delay has increased from 1.3 to 1.7.
- Swarm host locust attack damage has decreased from 16 to 14.
- Viper Consume can no longer be used on creep tumors.
- Oracle Preordain duration has decreased from 2 min to 1 min.
- Viper Blinding Cloud now hits everything, but the radius of effect has reduced from 2.5 to 1.5.
- Widow mines will no longer damage each other with their splash damage.
- The bug affecting the Overlord speed upgrade has been fixed. Upgraded Overlords will now travel at the expected speed of 1.88.


HOTKEY CHANGES

Oracle
- Revelation has changed from E to R.
- Entomb has changed from R to E.


Mothership Core
- Energize has changed from N to E.
- Purify has changed from E to F.


Swarm host
- Spawn locust has changed from W to C.


Fleet Beacon
- Research Gravity Sling has changed from T to G.
- Research Bosonic Core has changed from G to A.


Hydralisk Den
- Evolve Muscular Augments has changed from C to A.


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6521292436#1

Disappointed there is no changes to the tempest.

Also, what is the Bosonic Core upgrade? Gravity Sling is the tempest range if I'm correct, but I can't check as I'm not in the beta.

Update:

We need to delay the update till 4:30 PM PDT. Will post with any additional changes.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
September 07 2012 21:08 GMT
#2
No surprise warhound got a nerf.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 21:13:37
September 07 2012 21:09 GMT
#3
A nice start to testing balances, I guess, but I wish haywire missiles was not autocastable.

They should leave creep tumours consumable, that's pretty funny.

Blinding cloud will barely cover anything now. I think this will be buffed to 2. o.o

Are they seriously leaving the haywire missiles doing full damage to immortal shields?
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 07 2012 21:09 GMT
#4
I like it, especially the blinding cloud change, hopefully we'll see it get more use, the viper is so awesome imo, it should become a major unit.
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Qgelfich
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany90 Posts
September 07 2012 21:09 GMT
#5
No suprises whatsoever. Good to see blinding cloud hit everything, since bio is very rarely used nowadays.
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
September 07 2012 21:10 GMT
#6
Widow mines will no longer damage each other with their splash damage.

Oh, that could have been a problem lol. Maybe they don't suck like we thought.

Warhound Weapon attack delay has increased from 1.3 to 1.7.

Lets see if this nerf makes this unit less dominant.
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Brahoono
Profile Joined September 2012
119 Posts
September 07 2012 21:11 GMT
#7
On September 08 2012 06:06 Tao367 wrote:
- Viper Blinding Cloud now hits everything, but the radius of effect has reduced from 2.5 to 1.5



<3
j.k.l
Profile Joined September 2012
112 Posts
September 07 2012 21:11 GMT
#8
good changes.
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 07 2012 21:12 GMT
#9
2.5->1.5 radius is a big difference O_O
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gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
September 07 2012 21:13 GMT
#10
Blizz doesn't understand what the problem is with Warhound.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
September 07 2012 21:13 GMT
#11
I think that the main problem with warhounds is the haywire, not necessarily the main attack. You can just kite stalkers/sentries with its range.
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Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
September 07 2012 21:15 GMT
#12
On September 08 2012 06:13 purakushi wrote:
I think that the main problem with warhounds is the haywire, not necessarily the main attack. You can just kite stalkers/sentries with its range.


I disagree, even on non mechanical units it beats everything. It destroys bio army's extremely quickly and efficiently.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 21:16:04
September 07 2012 21:15 GMT
#13
Bosonic core is oracle energy
- Widow mines will no longer damage each other with their splash damage.

Sigh
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 07 2012 21:17 GMT
#14
A 30% decrease in non-haywire DPS will probably make the Warhound nonviable in TvZ.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9385 Posts
September 07 2012 21:18 GMT
#15
Absolutely stupid. Blizzard chooses to "balance" the warhound instead of redesigning it. They have zero clue wtf they are doing.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 21:22:11
September 07 2012 21:19 GMT
#16
On September 08 2012 06:15 Tao367 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 06:13 purakushi wrote:
I think that the main problem with warhounds is the haywire, not necessarily the main attack. You can just kite stalkers/sentries with its range.


I disagree, even on non mechanical units it beats everything. It destroys bio army's extremely quickly and efficiently.


Ah, that's true. I guess it needs both nerfs >_< Well, I would mainly like to see haywire be castable, so it at least takes some micro to use. I doubt Blizzard is going to do that, though. Catering to making the game easier...

Should haywire still completely ignore immortal shields, though? =\
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 07 2012 21:20 GMT
#17
Haha, viper buffed even more, jesus
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 07 2012 21:21 GMT
#18
On September 08 2012 06:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
Haha, viper buffed even more, jesus

well, nerfed it vs bio, but I guess that playstyle seems to have died in HotS.
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 07 2012 21:22 GMT
#19
On September 08 2012 06:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
Haha, viper buffed even more, jesus


Is it strong? My impression of the community's impression is that it's underpowered.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 07 2012 21:22 GMT
#20
It's incredibly useful, but really frail.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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