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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On September 10 2012 22:44 gplayer wrote: Good changes I'd say. Warhounds could still use a bit of nerfing imo. Definitely. Let it cost 3 supply, and have movement speed reduced to 2.5 and I feel like it would be ok. | ||
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Mortal
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Moonsalt
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kaokentake
383 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:31 Moonsalt wrote: God, I hate the swarm host, it's going to kill ZvZ and it will be such a stupid match-up... agreed zerg doesnt even need more anti-ground options. zerg doesnt need a siegetank too. zerg wasnt designed to have a siegetank Please blizzard think of another unit to add to zerg. Honestly I think zerg needs a ranged anti-light unit now to hopefully deal with hellion/marines. Possibly at tier2. And anti-light lurker seems all too fitting now. | ||
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StatixEx
United Kingdom779 Posts
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The_Masked_Shrimp
425 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 11 2012 04:21 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote: So does this patch mean that the blinding cloud of the viper which actually works on planetary fortress.... is an intended mechanism? O_o Does it work? Holy shit that would be awesome  | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
425 Posts
On September 11 2012 04:25 blade55555 wrote: Does it work? Holy shit that would be awesome well i saw it on CatZ stream, he killed a planetary with like 7 roaches, it did not fire back because of a viper cloud he kept casting on it :o i asked thorzain on the chat of his stream and he confirmed xD | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12047 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:36 kaokentake wrote: agreed zerg doesnt even need more anti-ground options. zerg doesnt need a siegetank too. zerg wasnt designed to have a siegetank Please blizzard think of another unit to add to zerg. Honestly I think zerg needs a ranged anti-light unit now to hopefully deal with hellion/marines. Possibly at tier2. And anti-light lurker seems all too fitting now. Hydras are pretty sick against light units dude. | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On September 10 2012 22:43 Warpish wrote: What saddens me is that Blizzard is still working around the same basic concepts that were presented during Blizzcon. I'm not even going to discuss the fact that all the HotS units are are a bad copy of BW units. The fact is that these are pretty much the only units that Blizzard has ever shown to the public. It is very discouraging to see that these unit concepts have evolved so little and are simply being hammered down until they fit into the game. I no longer expect to see the Warhound being reinvented or new units being tested; we will be force-fed these units. I would really like to see more experimentation, more unit concepts, more ideas and creativity. Unfortunately that is not Blizzard's mindset. Moreover, TL doesn't allow open discussions about new units and concepts which is peculiar, to say the least. ? really? If true, I find that peculiar too | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:22 rotinegg wrote: ? really? If true, I find that peculiar too Why should TL allow such discussions? They're not going anywhere. It's not like Blizzard is sifting through the TL forum hoping that someone will post that perfect unit concept that they can implement. If you want to discuss unit ideas, there are plenty of places to do that. It doesn't need to happen here. It's just not productive. | ||
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archon256
United States363 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:22 rotinegg wrote: ? really? If true, I find that peculiar too I think the problem there is that it's all too easy to suggest new units and concepts, but very few of those will be good, and even less of those will actually get back to Blizzard and be implemented. And with threads like those, they have very little "worth" unless they get implemented, whereas other threads like strategy discussions or talking about a pro's gameplay are useful regardless of a Blizzard response. | ||
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
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Sweden979 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:22 rotinegg wrote: ? really? If true, I find that peculiar too He probably says that because of this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366746 I think TL gladly welcomes new idea discussing threads, however they hold them to very high standards. They probably have to be very specific: targeting a precise problem, with a precise idea of how, where and when it would function, and you would have to be someone with a good reputation or have another way to put weight behind your opinion. And the OP itself would have to be written in a very organized manner. This is my guess because they surely wouldn't want your random gold player get a random idea, start a thread with no work behind it with a OP like "Wouldn´t it be cool if larvae could shoot lasers!". Then we wouldn't be any better than Dustin Browder, and that is what put us in this awkward situation to begin with. | ||
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archon256
United States363 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:36 kaokentake wrote: agreed zerg doesnt even need more anti-ground options. zerg doesnt need a siegetank too. zerg wasnt designed to have a siegetank I disagree. Well actually if Zerg got an actual siege-tank variant (like a Baneling launcher) then I'd agree with you. But the Swarm Host isn't a direct-fire unit like that. If you have sufficient defenses you can kill all the locusts without them doing any damage. The real role is to pressure the enemy to stop turtling and move out to engage the Zerg on his own terms, or suffer an ever-increasing barrage of locusts. Zerg in WoL don't have that luxury, and the only cost-efficient option even against someone who you have an advantage against is to tech to midgame. Swarm Hosts offer another midgame option. | ||
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james5
United Kingdom26 Posts
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Cubu
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Svennedude
Belgium86 Posts
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Habitus
United Kingdom120 Posts
On September 11 2012 10:19 archon256 wrote: The real role is to pressure the enemy to stop turtling and move out to engage the Zerg on his own terms, or suffer an ever-increasing barrage of locusts. The most effect response I've seen to them being used offensively is just to counter attack their base, the unborrow, move forward, burrow, spawn units and kill stuff in a area is rather slow in base trade situtations and they aren't quick at getting back to defend. As long as you have afew siege tanks+marines in bunkers/cannons+stalkers/afew spawnhosts+spine crawlers to hold them off for awhile you should always come out ahead. | ||
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Seigifried
United States60 Posts
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