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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: Is it strong? My impression of the community's impression is that it's underpowered. It is definitely not underpowered. It's abduct ability is quite useful. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:21 MCDayC wrote: well, nerfed it vs bio, but I guess that playstyle seems to have died in HotS. 3 days into the beta and people are still playing games just to see the units. Be reasonable. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:23 purakushi wrote: It is definitely not underpowered. It's abduct ability is quite useful. Okay. Maybe I've just watched too much of Psystarcraft complaining about it -_-;; | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Also, if ZvZ ever stops being swarmhost wars it'll be great in roach battles. | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:18 Hider wrote: Absolutely stupid. Blizzard chooses to "balance" the warhound instead of redesigning it. They have zero clue wtf they are doing. Not to be rude, but you didn't actually expect them to "redesign" an entire unit in a few days, right? They realized they needed to to something about it ASAP and did a quick balance change. They can always redesign it later if this isn't sufficient. | ||
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Jlei
97 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:19 purakushi wrote: Ah, that's true. I guess it needs both nerfs >_< Well, I would mainly like to see haywire be castable, so it at least takes some micro to use. I doubt Blizzard is going to do that, though. Catering to making the game easier... Should haywire still completely ignore immortal shields, though? =\ That's the point of the unit. Make it so Immortal's don't ass rape Tanks. Battle Hellions is so that Zealots don't ass rape tanks. Now that it's DPS is lowered and the Warhound doesn't counter everything, people might actually make Tanks. It's a terribly designed unit but they are trying to make Tanks more viable in TvP. | ||
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gedatsu
1286 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:24 RaZorwire wrote: Not to be rude, but you didn't actually expect them to "redesign" an entire unit in a few days, right? They realized they needed to to something about it ASAP and did a quick balance change. They can always redesign it later if this isn't sufficient. This is a good point. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:23 urashimakt wrote: 3 days into the beta and people are still playing games just to see the units. Be reasonable. yeah I know  I'm predicting a come back of bio into raven play, cause ravens are amazing now. | ||
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pmp10
3323 Posts
Just first of many drastic changes to make mech work vs protoss. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:25 Jlei wrote: That's the point of the unit. Make it so Immortal's don't ass rape Tanks. Battle Hellions is so that Zealots don't ass rape tanks. Now that it's DPS is lowered and the Warhound doesn't counter everything, people might actually make Tanks. It's a terribly designed unit but they are trying to make Tanks more viable in TvP. Actually, Blizzard's main goal of the warhound is to break the TvT siege tank scan wars. Of course, having a viable mech option versus Protoss is necessary to balance. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:24 MCDayC wrote: I've seen it used to dismantle mech with the yank ability, and now the blinding cloud can be used on clumped tanks to make them absolutely useless. Also, if ZvZ ever stops being swarmhost wars it'll be great in roach battles. Just spread out your tanks like in BW. Radius 1.5 isn't all that large if you have good spread. | ||
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Cloak
United States816 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:29 SarcasmMonster wrote: Just spread out your tanks like in BW. Radius 1.5 isn't all that large if you have good spread. Yup, I think its a cool change. Against a good player yank will probably be better as it will kill the tank, but it punishes terrans having all the tanks bunched up and just sieging up. | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Decendos
Germany1338 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:30 Cloak wrote: Honestly, BH/Tank holds fine against Protoss ground. There's no need to make a unit that absolutely decimates Protoss. If they're going to balance inch by inch, be prepared for like 3-4 more patches of Warhound nerfs. this! i hope they nerf warhounds so they are pretty much antitankline only. BH + widow mine + tanks + thors will be fine vs toss. | ||
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Buchan
Canada184 Posts
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On September 08 2012 06:34 aZealot wrote: Wow, more steps down towards the abyss of yet more hard counters. :-/ what are you basing this on? | ||
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Absentia
United Kingdom973 Posts
The blinding cloud semi-buff is nice but the AOE already looked pretty small beforehand. I don't really understand how good the Swarm Host is at the moment since there doesn't seem to be much of a consensus. I'm not really sure how I feel about a damage nerf to positional units, (once again). | ||
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