[Interview] Dustin Browder on HotS - Page 10

On July 10 2012 12:02 Ketara wrote:
You want a good argument for the Carrier?

Make it work like you want Tempest to work. Give the Interceptors an upgrade that sends them out at 22 range.

There. Carrier is what you want Tempest to be, but it's cool while the Tempest is dumb.

On July 10 2012 12:15 Chaggi wrote:
If widow mines are cut, what do Terrans have to look forward to?

On July 10 2012 18:13 sluggaslamoo wrote:


I think its obvious that Browder just doesn't want BW units.

He seems to have double standards for BW units and SC2 units.

On July 10 2012 18:32 FrogOfWar wrote:
One other thing ... if HOTS comes a month after the Beta and the Beta comes shortly after patch 1.5 ... when does patch 1.5 come?

On July 10 2012 17:45 lunchrush wrote:
Honestly, I don't really see why they can't just give the carrier the 22 range or something similarly ridiculous and call it a wrap. They could do so much with that unit that they're just... not. Now THAT's a graviton catapult =P

As an argument for the carrier. If we start thinking about the new units for pvt Lets say terran goes for a mech focused army. That is battle hellions, war hounds some thors/siege tanks maybe add some widow mines if they have a good use. What units would a protoss want to get against this?

The mech army while incredibly good at dealing with a protoss ground army is weak against air the only thing from the factory that shoots up is the thor which while it can be good against clumped up void rays is terrible against carriers. The tempest could slowly pick off units but they are not going to win the fight for the protoss on their own, carriers as a large high dps air unit is an extremely good choice against a mech terran its just that they usually go bio.

The terran then has to try and get marines/Vikings (Battlecruisers?) plus upgrades where before they were factory focused.

It adds to the choice and variety in games which seems to be what they want? or in other words what reason is there for removing it?

On July 10 2012 18:32 FrogOfWar wrote:
One other thing ... if HOTS comes a month after the Beta and the Beta comes shortly after patch 1.5 ... when does patch 1.5 come?

On July 10 2012 17:25 Sandermatt wrote:


Mass carrier is very boring (as it is basically just a-move). And if you talk about implementing carriers in other unit compositions protoss just rarely has a gap in the unit roles that only can be filled with the carrier.

On July 10 2012 18:28 FrogOfWar wrote:


I assume the 22 range suggestion is a joke ... but aside from that, you're right. I don't understand how Browder can say that while also saying that stargate is under-utilized which means that Protoss needs better ships. How is that not a good argument? Why can't the Carrier play that role after a workover? Doesn't make any sense.

On July 10 2012 18:37 Evangelist wrote:
Uh. You guys know that you basically build 4 tempests and the zerg has literally around 30s to engage you or they have no broodlords left, right? Put the things 10 range behind your army protected by a handful of stalkers and just keep pressuring forward every once in a while to keep their corruptors occupied.

All this SHIT 22 RANGE AWFUL UNIT seems to be sourced from the idea that you just 1a the damn things. Build 4 of them, put them in a control group (yes, I know, this is hard to do) and target fire one broodlord every 6s. Same thing with PvP. Build 2 of them, position them over your main, protect with a few stalkers and two shot their colossi. Since they're relatively low DPS, they don't utterly gut every unit in the army but they do fuck colossi.

Carriers are just 1a units by comparison. Let them go.