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xNaquada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada19 Posts
September 28 2010 21:44 GMT
#21
thanks, just did this.

1v4/1v2 were easy(P).

1v3 I went zerg. Its absolutely important you pickup minerals. I ended up winning with 69/78 supply by 500minerals.
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
September 28 2010 21:55 GMT
#22
On September 29 2010 04:54 Cantankerous wrote:
For the guys asking for 1v3 help - I can do a short little writeup on that if the OP does not come back for a bit - might be able to dig up replays too. It's definitely the closest one but it's very doable. If you're playing protoss the key is getting 2 expansions asap (bringing you up to 3 bases, all non gold) and constantly chrono boosting (don't let it wait, you need them asap to get a higher income).

In order to afford the early nexii - send a probe out immediately after the first lava tide and gather as many mineral caches as you can around the map (they're found only on low ground) and as soon as you've got 400 minerals above what you need for probe production throw up a nexus - then throw up a second nexus as soon as possible again by gathering mineral caches around the map (new ones spawn each tide). You'll likely get your third nexus started before the second has finished too.

If you do that quick you'll be on equal ground to the insane AI's very soon. Then you just need to gather mineral caches to get the edge.

It's also possible as zerg - and I found it easier. Just throw up an expansion every time you hit 300 minerals - you can get an insane income in no time.


No problem man, explain away. It's part your finding as well.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
September 28 2010 22:18 GMT
#23
Yay! :D
I just got em all.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
September 28 2010 22:44 GMT
#24
Its so easy, even 1vs3.
The best is 1vs2 when in fact you can have both of them collecting minerals for you XD.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
September 28 2010 23:45 GMT
#25
fuckin win. good find mate
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:58:28
September 29 2010 00:12 GMT
#26
I am curious why one doesn't choose zerg. Sure it costs a spawning pool and queen for each hatchery, but each hatchery+queen combination produces 2.5x the drones than a nexus, probably 2x of a chronoed nexus.

Anyway, maybe speed and number of workers isn't that important,since it spends more money that way.

Anyway, whatever works I guess.

edit:

Well 1v3 was easy as zerg. Realize that the only matchup you need to set the computer to insane is 1v2. 1v3 and 1v4 can just be very hard AIs.

Anyway, the strategy I used was roughly 15 hatch, 14 pool, 18 hatch, and built a queen at each hatch. You probably only need two queens though.

I build 1 pair of zerglings, they are very good at collecting all the mineral shards quickly.

I just took the 3 start location spots (not any golds), and had about 18-20 drones on each hatchery, and I beat the computers 15k to 12700 or something.

edit: I think 18 workers is pretty optimal, because there's only 7 patches. Technically you might get the most from having 21, so it might be worth it though.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
September 29 2010 06:21 GMT
#27
i did it with toss, but wouldn't this be easier with terra and fast expand double orbital?
Mules from 2 CCs should be a bigger factor than chrono boost, even to make up for the barracks you have to build, no?
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
September 29 2010 06:37 GMT
#28
I think massing orbitals to MULE the golds could potentially work. They take longer to mine so travel time is more negligable. They also take good advantage of golds in general unlike other races.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 07:51:27
September 29 2010 07:39 GMT
#29
Wait what? Is this a new achievement? Or is it just the old one where you had to win against X amount of AI's but instead of doing it on a melee style map you do it on a get more minerals map? Or what? D: Pretty easy to do this with canonrushing isnt it?
Wat
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 29 2010 07:46 GMT
#30
It might be easier with terran... but why bother?

We know for certain it works for toss. Don't waste your time trying it with terran.

Unless of course you're just curious to see which works better. In which case, knock yourself out.
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
September 29 2010 07:49 GMT
#31
great guide! love getting achievements!! ^^
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
TheArtOfFugue
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada187 Posts
September 29 2010 08:02 GMT
#32
First of all you don't have to beat more than 2 insane A.I.s for the achievments, it's the 4 very hard A.I. one that's hard, thank god you don't have to do vs 3 or 4 insanes.
74% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Frozencold
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
September 29 2010 08:54 GMT
#33
Worked like a charm Great post!
Dotards
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark7 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 08:55:42
September 29 2010 08:54 GMT
#34
Ehm.... You can make this even easier..... Just go to map editor and creat a map were the ai don't start with any miniral patches and on an island. Yes then build one air unit and you win 1 vs 7 insane AIs since its a CUSTOM game you have to complete the achievement in.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
September 29 2010 09:17 GMT
#35
rofl thats hillarious.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Kesler
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada175 Posts
September 29 2010 10:08 GMT
#36
wow that was ridiculously easy hahaha
especially the 1v2 for some reason both coms were mining for me so i just alt tabbed took a shower and got those achievements

thanks for looking out and my outmatched crusher achievement
what do you mean barq's has bite?!
_ContempT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
September 29 2010 12:00 GMT
#37
1v3 was definitely the hardest, I won with 1500-1425 lol. My own fault for not realizing they didn't have to be on Insane till afterwards, tho I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes...

Anyways, thanks!
Biggy is mild and good taste! o_O
ShauNotDeaD
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9 Posts
September 29 2010 14:53 GMT
#38
Not sure I should admit it publicly but I can attest that it works even after patch 1.1.1, and I found it's easier as terran. Didn't try toss but watched the video.

10 supply, 12 rax, 15 orbital, and then you can build CC's in base around 16 and 20 or so (not sure on those numbers).

When CC's finish, load em up with 5 SCVs and fly them to nearby expos (don't have to worry about lava and maynerding), and make them orbitals asap as well.

I only used one mule in my main, and saved the rest for expos so my main wouldn't mine out.

I beat 2 Insane AI by about 7-8k minerals, and I beat 3 Insane AI by 2k minerals.

Fighting!
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 29 2010 15:28 GMT
#39
I can now get wins in 12 game minutes, or 8 minutes real time. Easy way to get those 100 vAI wins. There's also the 250 coop games... :|
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Sean.G
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 16:27:45
September 29 2010 16:23 GMT
#40
I did 1v3 with zerg and I won by 3k minerals or something, it was ridiculously easy. just expanded twice and pumped drones, no queen or anything.. 21 drones on each base is max saturation.

What makes it easier too with zerg is that you can spread your overlords all over the map to scout for minerals, then just send 1 drone and shift queue it on all the minerals..

easy peasy string bikini! Haven't tried terran with O/C yet though, but I still think zerg can mass drones faster, and since we only need to get to 15k resources I think zerg is better.. perhaps MULEs would be stronger if we needed more than 15k, say 30k or something. Not sure.

EDIT: correction: just checked replay, I won by 3k minerals
"He is fighting in this match like we've never seen a terran player fight before. He is fighting as hard as Orlando Bloom fights for the affections of Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and hopefully he'll have more success" - Klazart
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