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Hello!
In this thread I would like to discuss your thoughts on the end of WoL, and key events that might foretell the storyline in the comming expansions.
If you haven't completed the campaign yet, here is your last warning to leave the thread if you don't want the ending spoiled!
+ Show Spoiler + On the surface it's a happy ending. Boy gets girl and you get the feeling they will live happily ever after.
However I do not believe this is the case. What struck me at the end of the campaign is, what is gonna happend to the Zerg without their leader?
Zeratul's vision shows the Zerg being enslaved by the mutants, due to what Raynor believes the death of Kerrigan. I believe the real reason is rather that they free her of her infestation.
With that being said, how do you believe the story will progress? My current theory is something along the lines of Kerrigan going back to being infested, to save the world by controlling the Zerg.
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Spoilers ahoy! It might be easier just to add spoilers to the title itself, as that's pretty much all this thread is gonna be. + Show Spoiler +I feel like Kerrigan will still be controlling the zerg. I doubt she'll still be infested fully, as that would defeat the whole point of Wings of Liberty and make her go all bloodthirsty again. I think instead she'll be controlling the Zerg in her current state and bending them towards taking down Arcturus for vengeance and the Hybrids, who will undoubtedly become a much larger threat.
After all, if the campaign is anything like Wings of Liberty, she'll need other characters to interact with, and since the Cerebrates are all dead that falls to people like Raynor and Valerian. I predict that those two, at least, will play quite a large part in the Zerg campaign.
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+ Show Spoiler +How about a RPG element where you try to build back up her control over the swarm, but with her human body?
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kerrigan is hot and jimmy gets sum. LOL
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On July 28 2010 17:05 TheTuna wrote:Spoilers ahoy! It might be easier just to add spoilers to the title itself, as that's pretty much all this thread is gonna be. + Show Spoiler +I feel like Kerrigan will still be controlling the zerg. I doubt she'll still be infested fully, as that would defeat the whole point of Wings of Liberty and make her go all bloodthirsty again. I think instead she'll be controlling the Zerg in her current state and bending them towards taking down Arcturus for vengeance and the Hybrids, who will undoubtedly become a much larger threat.
After all, if the campaign is anything like Wings of Liberty, she'll need other characters to interact with, and since the Cerebrates are all dead that falls to people like Raynor and Valerian. I predict that those two, at least, will play quite a large part in the Zerg campaign.
+ Show Spoiler +wow I have to say your theory is actually something that sounds like it'll be. I'm impressed that one I can actually see blizzard doing and am really curious on to how it will continue. I hope Kerrigan gets her red hair back though 
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Okay, I think we can dispense with the spoiler tags now. 
Agreed! Tentacle hair is just weird on human kerrigan, and it's totally illogical since the rest of her body underwent an equally traumatic reversal. Another thing to note is that the secret mission strongly hints that Duran may be cooperating with Mengsk to create Hybrids; the mission, for those who haven't played it yet, is a facility raid on a dominion lab that's creating hybrids, much like Dark Origins. Afterwards, Horner points out that Mengsk couldn't possibly know how to do that...but who do we know that does? Hmmm....
So yeah, Duran in Heart of the Swarm for sure, I think.
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I agree with those of you who say that Kerrigan will probably still be in control of the Zerg. The first expansion will be a zerg campaign but it will also be centered around Kerrigan(or her fate at least). Unless Kerrigan is in control of the zerg then who else would you play? Also by letting Kerrigan still control the zerg and letting her be the main character in the expansion they can bring some of the characters along from WoL. I'm guessing there will be an alliance between Raynor and his men and Kerrigans zerg. Kind of like how Raynor was a big character in the Protoss campaign in Starcraft 1.
You are given hints when the campaign ends that "Arcturus is still in power..." which would suggest that his downfall is also the center of the second campaign. Kerrigan wanting revenge on Arcturus obviously supports this.
Another possibility would be that we play as Duran or something. But then it wouldn't really be a zerg campaign. It would be more of a Hybrid campaign and the Protoss mission told us that the zerg or at least Kerrigan is in some way responsible for defeating the Hybrids. It would be silly to have a campaign centered around the hybrids that ends with defeat for the player. In all campaigns in Starcraft history so far you start out as an underdog and end the final mission with a deciding victory of some form. If Kerrigan is supposed to defeat the Hybrids then it will have to happen in the next campaign and you will be playing as the victor.
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@ OP, Wow I never thought of it like that, that's pretty mindboggling now and after the game being beat on release date I am now thirsty for the expansion already -_-. Need to ladder get my mind off things
EDIT: SECRET MISSION? WHERE -_-
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@SONE If you want to know how to get the secret mission click the spoiler link.
THE REST OF YOU DONT 
+ Show Spoiler + On the mission "Media Blitz you are supposed to take control of 3 broadcast buildings. If you look on the map however there is a lone "island" at about the 5 o'clock position which you access by a bridge. On the island you will find a science facility. Destroy it to unlock the secret mission.
Note that you can't do this if you already completed the campaign and choose the mission in the list. You have to do it while being on the campaign before going to Char. I still had an auto save from media blitz since I did it pretty late.
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The ending.....was incredibly weird... + Show Spoiler + If were to make any sort of sense of Zeratul's visions, we have to assume she can still control the zerg or Raynor just basically said fk it and doomed everyone despite knowing what would happen
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I found the story very good and interesting. With the ending however I'm totally unsatisfied. There are so many questions unanswered. What's up with the Xel'Naga now? What happens with the federation? What with Raynor and Kerrigan? I know it's gonna be answered in the upcoming expansions, but for me personally it just wasn't an "epic" ending. I also expected a bigger ending sequence as in BroodWar. It just kinda sucks that we now have to wait such a long time to find out how the story will proceed
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I hated the ending, it was the worst possible option they could have went with. + Show Spoiler +They converted possibly one of the most notorious villains of our lifetime back to the good side without giving her any depth at all throughout the entire campaign. It's untapped potential that now can't ever be used later on. The only way Blizzard can salvage this mistake has to be in the expansion, giving zerg leadership characters that are equally as creative and interesting. That's going to be a tough challenge, because in Broodwar Kerrigan was awsome, outsmarted everyone and had incredible power to her. There's a lot more that could've been done with her in these games. She was a chaotic factor in Starcraft's storyline and a big part in why the story was so memorable.
Something I noticed about the ending, Kerrigan was human, a bullet would have killed her, but being carried naked through Char, the most inhospitable planet in the game wouldn't? Blizzard writers need to be set on fire, between the nerdy dialogue (space elves) and horrible plot twists, they're ruining this franchise. gl salvaging it.
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On July 30 2010 12:52 Rah wrote:I hated the ending, it was the worst possible option they could have went with. + Show Spoiler +They converted possibly one of the most notorious villains of our lifetime back to the good side without giving her any depth at all throughout the entire campaign. It's untapped potential that now can't ever be used later on. The only way Blizzard can salvage this mistake has to be in the expansion, giving zerg leadership characters that are equally as creative and interesting. That's going to be a tough challenge, because in Broodwar Kerrigan was awsome, outsmarted everyone and had incredible power to her. There's a lot more that could've been done with her in these games. She was a chaotic factor in Starcraft's storyline and a big part in why the story was so memorable.
Something I noticed about the ending, Kerrigan was human, a bullet would have killed her, but being carried naked through Char, the most inhospitable planet in the game wouldn't? Blizzard writers need to be set on fire, between the nerdy dialogue and horrible plot twists, they're ruining this franchise. gl salvaging it.
You're really nitpicking that hard? I'm no lore expert, but I think a direct bullet to her head would have killed her before too
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On July 30 2010 13:13 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 12:52 Rah wrote:I hated the ending, it was the worst possible option they could have went with. + Show Spoiler +They converted possibly one of the most notorious villains of our lifetime back to the good side without giving her any depth at all throughout the entire campaign. It's untapped potential that now can't ever be used later on. The only way Blizzard can salvage this mistake has to be in the expansion, giving zerg leadership characters that are equally as creative and interesting. That's going to be a tough challenge, because in Broodwar Kerrigan was awsome, outsmarted everyone and had incredible power to her. There's a lot more that could've been done with her in these games. She was a chaotic factor in Starcraft's storyline and a big part in why the story was so memorable.
Something I noticed about the ending, Kerrigan was human, a bullet would have killed her, but being carried naked through Char, the most inhospitable planet in the game wouldn't? Blizzard writers need to be set on fire, between the nerdy dialogue and horrible plot twists, they're ruining this franchise. gl salvaging it. You're really nitpicking that hard? I'm no lore expert, but I think a direct bullet to her head would have killed her before too
It's not that we're angry because Kerrigan reversed her infestation but because it happened too soon without any more depth analysis on her devious side. If you look at it from a person's perspective who has alot of knowledge on the events of Brood War, she really was the evil "Queen Bitch of the Universe" who you'd hate to have any involvement with rather than some zombified fool gets PO'd over everything around her. And Mengsk, seriously, where has all of your charisma gone to? 4 years ago, you were the biggest Terran scumbag in the universe with only a few people who know it.
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Good news everybody.
In Heart of the Swarm, it turns out the entire WoL campaign was a dream. Except the Zeratul dream sequence - that part was real.
You're welcome.
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Just because she's human doesn't mean she can't still control the zerg. The next expansion IS a zerg expansion, and they're going to need a leader. Also, just because she's no longer "infested" doesn't mean she's necessarily good or has forgiven Mengsk. She's been free from the overmind's control since 1998, but that hasn't kept her from being a bitch to everybody. If you really think about it, nothing has changed, except she's hotter now.
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My idea was, when you go to visit the Overminds "corpse" you notice the zerg still linger around it, why? If kerrigan had control of them they should have just left it to die, however you notice its body is also throbbing, thats an awful long time for something to still be moving isnt it? 4 years?lol?
Channeling energy or not You couldnt kill a Cerebrate without a Dark Templar doing it itself, if the Overmind could be recreated from a shitload of Cerebrates why would it die to a Carrier crashing into it?
Furthermore it Didnt kill Tassadar as he says "I havent experienced death nor will i ever" orsomething along those lines.
IMO the Overmind isnt really dead, and it will be leading the swarm in HOTS
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On July 30 2010 14:02 arb wrote: My idea was, when you go to visit the Overminds "corpse" you notice the zerg still linger around it, why? If kerrigan had control of them they should have just left it to die, however you notice its body is also throbbing, thats an awful long time for something to still be moving isnt it? 4 years?lol?
Channeling energy or not You couldnt kill a Cerebrate without a Dark Templar doing it itself, if the Overmind could be recreated from a shitload of Cerebrates why would it die to a Carrier crashing into it?
Furthermore it Didnt kill Tassadar as he says "I havent experienced death nor will i ever" orsomething along those lines.
IMO the Overmind isnt really dead, and it will be leading the swarm in HOTS
Really interresting. Sounds possible.
In before the whole invasion and later death of the Overmind was a big con from Tassadar to get a HUGE yard (aka the entire Aiur). Where he and the Overmind chill and play online poker all day.
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On July 30 2010 14:02 arb wrote: My idea was, when you go to visit the Overminds "corpse" you notice the zerg still linger around it, why? If kerrigan had control of them they should have just left it to die, however you notice its body is also throbbing, thats an awful long time for something to still be moving isnt it? 4 years?lol?
Channeling energy or not You couldnt kill a Cerebrate without a Dark Templar doing it itself, if the Overmind could be recreated from a shitload of Cerebrates why would it die to a Carrier crashing into it?
Furthermore it Didnt kill Tassadar as he says "I havent experienced death nor will i ever" orsomething along those lines.
IMO the Overmind isnt really dead, and it will be leading the swarm in HOTS
Wasn't there something about Tassadar learning to merge dark and light powers to imbue his carrier with super duper destructivenessnessness?
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On July 30 2010 14:02 arb wrote: IMO the Overmind isnt really dead, and it will be leading the swarm in HOTS
Didn't Blizzard state that HotS will be focused around Kerrigan and the development of the Zerg empire? I would lose my entire faith in Blizzard if it wasn't focused around her.
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