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Russian Federation22 Posts
On August 03 2010 00:02 Eredia wrote:Sorry but the epilogue text do say Tychus really is dead. :/ The reason to why they didn't show a close up shootout between two humans is the PEGI rating which for starcraft 2 is 13years. It's like, they can show alot of spatter if the characters are some weird unbelievable monster. But if it is a human with good graphics (aka look pretty real) they can't show alot of blood nor executions or it would be rated alot higher. In Europe this wouldn't really be a problem but I heard rumors about the US having quite some people being very strict with these things.
Well, that's true, but Tychus might have just laid low or whatever, but in any case, in order for us, the players, to seize control of Kerrigan, we would need the first game lead (Jim) to be dead or somehow not avaliable to us.
If its not Tychus, perhaps Mengsk (father or son) betray him and kill him.
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Lol, Tychus the King of Blades o.O
I just hope this doesn't be a repeat of Wc3, Valerian kills Mengsk for the throne and the Hybrids are the legion and the races unite. I always thought that Zerg were the awesome killers and Hybrids were some kind of danger and now Overmind was not evil. (kinda)
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konadora
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felt the ending was kinda too fairytale-ish and lame -_-
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i havent read through all of this yet, but there is one thing that struck my mind after finishing the campaign...
remember the cinematic where zeratul fought kerrigan? The 2 of them were talking about the prophecy and Kerrigan was like: "yeye old fool, when the end comes... i shall embrace it!"
what if she let raynor change her back on purpose to execute some twisted evil plan?
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I have to agree with AT_Tack. I think Kerrigan let Raynor change her back on purpose. As the joker would say "Its alll part of the plan."
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On August 03 2010 01:03 AT_Tack wrote:
i havent read through all of this yet, but there is one thing that struck my mind after finishing the campaign...
remember the cinematic where zeratul fought kerrigan? The 2 of them were talking about the prophecy and Kerrigan was like: "yeye old fool, when the end comes... i shall embrace it!"
what if she let raynor change her back on purpose to execute some twisted evil plan?
Maybe it's me hearing it wrong, but I thought she said "I will embrace it last"
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On August 03 2010 01:32 TrickyCat wrote:
I have to agree with AT_Tack. I think Kerrigan let Raynor change her back on purpose. As the joker would say "Its alll part of the plan."
With how pathetically one-dimensional Kerrigan is in SC2, you really think Blizzard actually thought her character out enough to do something like that?
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On August 01 2010 16:47 Hats Hats Hats wrote:Okay, since a lot of people seem to think that Raynor screwed over the universe with his shenanigans, I'll explain Blizzard's angle here. They want you to think that the galaxy is screwed because of what he does, but it's the complete opposite. Zeratul's prophecy is carefully worded to be interpreted incorrectly. Actually, + Show Spoiler +If Raynor had not used the artifact on Kerrigan, the universe would be screwed. Allow me to explain. This explanation also covers why Kerrigan's still got head tentacles.
Zeratul knows "the xel'naga are returning," but he wonders if it's "to save...or to destroy?" We're supposed to assume that the latter is going to happen, but both of Zeratul's options are wrong. The xel'naga aren't going to return to save or destroy, they're going to save AND destroy.
What do we know about the xel'naga?
1. They have cyclical lifespans whereby two species, one with purity of form, the other with purity of essence, fuse over millions of years to create a superspecies with both purity of form and purity of essence. (The novels confirm this)
2. They created the Protoss and Zerg as one of their many candidate 'successor' xel'naga; if the P and Z fuse, they might become xel'naga. Keyword 'might.' The xel'naga eventually reached the conclusion that the Protoss weren't good enough - this implies very heavily that xel'nagaization is a delicate and complex process that requires a good margin of luck. After all, the xel'naga created thousands, perhaps millions, of species.
3. Thus, the entire purpose of the xel'naga in this galaxy was to create a successor species.
4. The xel'naga considered the protoss to possess purity of form. Therefore, we know that their definition of 'purity of form' is 'kicks ass and has insane psychic powers' - basically, incredible individual power.
5. The xel'naga considered the zerg to possess purity of essence. Therefore, we know that their definition of 'purity of essence' is 'perfectly unified and endlessly adaptive' - basically, incredible communal power.
The power of the individual turned to the purpose of the whole - that is a xel'naga. Knowing this, we can deduce the purpose of the xel'naga artifact. Why does it deinfest Kerrigan and blow up the zerg? Answer: it's not trying to do that. It's trying to fulfill the purpose of its creators. It's a tool that turns proto-xel'naga into xel'naga. The process is extremely draining; even the immortal Kerrigan is helpless, so mere minions like zerglings and shit just get blown up when the artifact tries to change 'em. Also, due to her immense psionic power, the artifact needs to reach full charge to penetrate her defenses and affect her.
Why does Kerrigan qualify as a xel'naga candidate? Well, she used to kick ass and possessed incredible psychic powers (remember when she meets raynor she effortlessly reads his mind). She qualifies for purity of form. After she's infested, she obviously qualifies for purity of essence. However, because infestation is an imperfect process, her zerg side was way stronger than her terran side; her components aren't in harmony like the xel'naga's were. The artifact balances that out. It doesn't turn her into a terran - it turns her into a perfect fusion of an elite terran ghost and a zerg. A being with both purity of form and purity of essence. A xel'naga.
With Kerrigan's apotheosis, the xel'naga have returned to this universe. Kerrigan is the galaxy's only hope because she is a xel'naga. Raynor didn't subvert the prophecy - he completed it.
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On July 30 2010 21:35 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
But did any of you notice that Dr. Narud could be Duran?
Narud is Duran spelled backwards. ^^
Sorry if this was already posted.
Edit: spelling
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On July 30 2010 13:51 RabidRat wrote:
Good news everybody.
In Heart of the Swarm, it turns out the entire WoL campaign was a dream. Except the Zeratul dream sequence - that part was real.
You're welcome.
Clever.+ Show Spoiler +
Raynor wakes up on the Hyperion flying as fast as the Battlecruiser can and we learn that the Zerg got drained by the Hybrids and the Hybrids overan and drained the Protoss, then destroyed all of humanity.
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On August 03 2010 05:23 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 01:32 TrickyCat wrote:
I have to agree with AT_Tack. I think Kerrigan let Raynor change her back on purpose. As the joker would say "Its alll part of the plan." With how pathetically one-dimensional Kerrigan is in SC2, you really think Blizzard actually thought her character out enough to do something like that?
If Hats Hats Hats is correct about what that artifact did to her, then it would make sense to want this to happen. It would also bring back some of the deception she was known for in BW. Last, it would help explain why Char was taken so "easily."
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I don't know on what basis people are saying Char was taken. It's defenses aren't invincible and can be penetrated - in SC both Raynor and Duke managed to get to the surface to try to rescue Kerrigan.
After defeat Raynor and some of his people manage to survive there, same with Tassadar and Zeratul.
Later in Protoss campaign random Terran fleet (survivors of Duke's forces?) attacks Protoss because they violate their airspace or some shit.
There are no signs of conquring Char this time. Fleet in the orbit is getting owned so hard people get dropped everywhere randomly, burning pieces and even entire buildings keep falling in every mission set on the surface and in the last cinematic; when playing the mission on the space platform, if you move your screen to edges of the map, things can be seen burning in the atmosphere and crashing.
Zerg flyers and Nydus worms can't be taken out both because there is no time, Raynor says himself defending won't be possible and then we learn that it's possible because the artifact can wipe out zerg every few minutes.
Was Aiur retaken by Protoss after Tassadar's sacrifice?
I mean there is big bang in both cases and zerg can't be seen in cinematics but it doesn't they aren't there.
If artifact could be used anywhere to conquer entire planet then they wouldn't have to be close to major hive cluster - it wasn't meant to deal with entire Swarm but with it's leader because Swarm neads leader or it becomes just a collection of beasts that can be easily turned against each other - after Zasz was killed there was no need to manipulate it's Breed into attacking other Zerg.
And we are never told before Char missions that it's about conquering Char but about doing something with Kerrigan.
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Maybe I'm the only one here but I loved the SP. Sure I would have made it a bit different, but we did not create this game so just sit back and enjoy a good tale instead of going all sour because blizzard didn't agree with your perceptions.
I can't wait to see the kind of hurt a Kerrigan/Raynor double team will put on mengsk. I'm pretty sure that kerrigan, human form and all, still wants revenge from the guy that left her to be turned into a monster.
I speculate kerrigan was in a similar state of mind to the overmind. In the Zeratul missions, tassadar speaks of the overmind as born with "reason, but not free will", controlled by an "overriding directive" to destroy the protoss. Kerrigan, in her encounter with zeratul, speaks about the coming of the Xel'Naga and her desire to meet oblivion in it. It is seems that she intended to fight both terran and protoss to pave the way for the arrival of the hybrids.
Now that she is human, that "overriding directive" seems gone, but, judging from her hair, she still is at least part-zerg. If so, this is going to be creepy. She might look human-ish now but she is still the de-facto leader of the swarm. Will raynors raiders hang out with zerglings in the cantina now?
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On July 28 2010 17:14 TheTuna wrote:Okay, I think we can dispense with the spoiler tags now.  Agreed! Tentacle hair is just weird on human kerrigan, and it's totally illogical since the rest of her body underwent an equally traumatic reversal.
Err, fyi you must have failed basic biology because hair is dead cells. Her body was stripped of living Zerg DNA, but not that of dead cells.
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On August 03 2010 00:25 2shellbonus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 00:02 Eredia wrote:On August 02 2010 23:51 2shellbonus wrote:
blahblah... Sorry but the epilogue text do say Tychus really is dead. :/ The reason to why they didn't show a close up shootout between two humans is the PEGI rating which for starcraft 2 is 13years. It's like, they can show alot of spatter if the characters are some weird unbelievable monster. But if it is a human with good graphics (aka look pretty real) they can't show alot of blood nor executions or it would be rated alot higher. In Europe this wouldn't really be a problem but I heard rumors about the US having quite some people being very strict with these things. Well, that's true, but Tychus might have just laid low or whatever, but in any case, in order for us, the players, to seize control of Kerrigan, we would need the first game lead (Jim) to be dead or somehow not avaliable to us. If its not Tychus, perhaps Mengsk (father or son) betray him and kill him.
Actually, all it would take was for the story to be told for a different perspective. Jim will probably have his hands full with Mengsk while Kerrigan does some fruity shit like regaining her identity. Actually, I predict that the first few missions will be vs Mengsk, then you start jumping all over the place rounding up stray critters and putting down protoss fanatics, then we'll have a few missions at the end that actually relate to the story (probably resulting in Arthas wtfpwning his pops and lettin us know that he's been working for the UED all along).
Looking forward to more fun missions, at this point not expecting a groundbreaking story.
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solid campaign.
I just expected SO much more after 12 years and 100 million dollars of development costs.
I was really hoping to be blown away by the single player experience as a whole.
But it was just another game...
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On August 03 2010 23:46 Shaithis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2010 17:14 TheTuna wrote:Okay, I think we can dispense with the spoiler tags now. Agreed! Tentacle hair is just weird on human kerrigan, and it's totally illogical since the rest of her body underwent an equally traumatic reversal. Err, fyi you must have failed basic biology because hair is dead cells. Her body was stripped of living Zerg DNA, but not that of dead cells.
You're assuming that the QoB's hair serves the same function as mammalian hair, why?
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So many theories, can't wait to see who's right :3
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I think it's fair to say that the Zerg right now are at least temporarily leaderless...but they're also very scattered right now, and it's going to be impossible to take control of all of them at the same time, I think.
Kerrigan will still have the power to take over Zerg, but she'll be VERY vulnerable right now; the only person she really has on her side is Jim Raynor. Pretty much every person in the Koprulu sector is going to want her dead, including the Dominion, the Protoss, and the Hybrids.
Right now, I'm thinking that HotS will be about Kerrigan trying to not get killed by the Dominion, aggrieved Terrans and Protoss, and the Dark Voice's minions while trying at the same time to reassert control over the Zerg one hive cluster and Brood at a time, and possibly even get revenge on Mengsk...while the hybrids are also busy taking over the Zerg, and trying to kill her as well.
Sounds like fun, eh?
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One of the most famous quotes from bw from Raynor is that he vowed he will avenge Fenix's death, and kill infested Kerrigan. This bothered me because now it is revealed by Zaratul's vision that Kerrigan cannot be killed. But then I thought about it, by reversing Kerrigan back to human form, infested Kerrigan is effectively "killed". I mean infested Kerrigan and human Kerrigan are two completely different beings, at least that's what Raynor thinks, ie if someone is infested he's essentially dead. So in a sense, Raynor didn't really turn back on his words.
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