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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 19 2009 13:07 GMT
#901
I love this thread.

it's such an inspiring one.
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 13:59:33
July 19 2009 13:56 GMT
#902
anyone here know how to strengthen muscles related to the knee??

i've been doing lunges and i just have this one query, do i do them with a flat foot (majority of weight bearing is basically at the heel and mid part of the foot) or do i do them with the ball of my foot handling the majority of the weight?? unconciously i do the latter but then when i do the former it feels as if my knee feels noticeably weaker...any suggestions on proper form??
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
July 19 2009 15:25 GMT
#903
well ive gained ~10 lbs so far from 162-172. Not quite my goal of 185 but its a start. Also changed my diet to mostly clean foods. I used to live off soda and candy and chocolate and junk food but haven't had any in about 3 months. Trying to up my calories as ive seem to plateaued at 172-173lbs.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 19 2009 15:35 GMT
#904
On July 19 2009 22:56 unknown.sam wrote:
anyone here know how to strengthen muscles related to the knee??

i've been doing lunges and i just have this one query, do i do them with a flat foot (majority of weight bearing is basically at the heel and mid part of the foot) or do i do them with the ball of my foot handling the majority of the weight?? unconciously i do the latter but then when i do the former it feels as if my knee feels noticeably weaker...any suggestions on proper form??


Lunges done with weight on the ball of the lead foot gets the calves (lower legs) involved on the up and down. Weights on the heel put more of the pressure on the quads (upper legs). I've always done lunges landing on the ball of the foot. It's the natural motion, and it's much easier to maintain balance. Your upper body posture is much more important.

I don't know what you mean by your knee feels noticeably weaker. There's no muscle in your joint so do you mean that you're off balance or that you just can't move the knee that much?
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 19 2009 16:03 GMT
#905
On July 19 2009 21:23 Energies wrote:
Any running experts here?

I'm training for the 12km City to Surf. I'm having some issues. My cardiovascular health is top notch, I can run forever keeping a steady low heart rate, so I have no issues making the distance fitness wise.

I suffer from lower back pains when I am going at my steady jogging pace, the pains go away if I pick up the pace, take longer strides or sprint.

Secondly my calves and lower calves? fleshy area just above the ankles, become terribly sore running on any sort of incline, the pain is similar to that of isolated calve exercises, I pretty much have to stop, stretch the pain away and then run again.

Note, I only suffer from these issues running outside, I have no issues on a treadmill.

Can anyone relate to this or any advice on how I can solve these problems, any exercises that can help out. The event is in 6 weeks.


Sounds to me like your jogging technique is poor?

If you're a heel-toe jogger that may be a huge problem that can be fairly easily solved. Heel-toe running also tends to make the calves tight and easily cramping, so I suspect these two things are related.

When people sprint they tend to get more mid-foot or forefoot strikes which the proper way to run... the muscles are worked more but less of the joints are absorbing the impact so you'll in general end up with less pain in the knees/hips/back as long as the muscles are conditioned to take the stress.


On July 20 2009 00:35 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 22:56 unknown.sam wrote:
anyone here know how to strengthen muscles related to the knee??

i've been doing lunges and i just have this one query, do i do them with a flat foot (majority of weight bearing is basically at the heel and mid part of the foot) or do i do them with the ball of my foot handling the majority of the weight?? unconciously i do the latter but then when i do the former it feels as if my knee feels noticeably weaker...any suggestions on proper form??


Lunges done with weight on the ball of the lead foot gets the calves (lower legs) involved on the up and down. Weights on the heel put more of the pressure on the quads (upper legs). I've always done lunges landing on the ball of the foot. It's the natural motion, and it's much easier to maintain balance. Your upper body posture is much more important.

I don't know what you mean by your knee feels noticeably weaker. There's no muscle in your joint so do you mean that you're off balance or that you just can't move the knee that much?


Well, if you land on the ball with the calves flexed, yes it does work the calves more.

Overall, lunges tend to depend on the knee angles over the foot. If the knee goes more over the toes, the more quads it uses (because they will have to be used to extend the knee more). However, the farther back your knee is when you lunge, the more hamstrings/glutes are used because you'll end up having to pull your weight to move your center of mass forward over your foot again.

Knee at approximately vertical with the ankle works both fairly well. That's what I'd aim for depending on what you're trying to accomplish of course.
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
July 19 2009 17:02 GMT
#906
oh ok, i'll have to do more heel-oriented lunges so i can work on my quads. i busted my knee a while back and i've been favoring it ever since which led to muscle atrophy so yeah...i'm trying to build up more muscle. thanks for the help, appreciate it
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:07:18
July 19 2009 17:06 GMT
#907
On July 20 2009 02:02 unknown.sam wrote:
oh ok, i'll have to do more heel-oriented lunges so i can work on my quads. i busted my knee a while back and i've been favoring it ever since which led to muscle atrophy so yeah...i'm trying to build up more muscle. thanks for the help, appreciate it


Um, knees farther past the toes = more quads.... generally, the weight will be on the ball of the foot when the knee tracks forward over the toes. Not more heel oriented.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
July 19 2009 18:53 GMT
#908
On July 20 2009 02:06 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 02:02 unknown.sam wrote:
oh ok, i'll have to do more heel-oriented lunges so i can work on my quads. i busted my knee a while back and i've been favoring it ever since which led to muscle atrophy so yeah...i'm trying to build up more muscle. thanks for the help, appreciate it


Um, knees farther past the toes = more quads.... generally, the weight will be on the ball of the foot when the knee tracks forward over the toes. Not more heel oriented.

i didn't notice someone else also posted =P
thanks, i'll be sure to remember that
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 03:24:12
July 20 2009 03:23 GMT
#909
i wish i had a scale to track my progress. i was given a shirt when i was freshly 17, and it fit well. it didn't fit before i was 18, and now that im 19 and 1 month old, it fits again and actually looks nice on me. hooray
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
July 22 2009 15:00 GMT
#910
I would like to join TL Fitness Initiative. Currently I'm 6'1" and I weight 188lbs. I had a 3-4 month break from the gym. During that time I started drinking and smoking cigarettes again. Now I wanna stop doing that and get back in shape. My main goal is to get to like 10% Body Fat percentage and of course quit smoking. Thanks for all the resources in the OP. I will go to gym now. Peace.
The Prince of DroneS
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 22 2009 15:19 GMT
#911
So whats the best way to go around and find my bodyfat %?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
July 22 2009 15:48 GMT
#912
On July 23 2009 00:19 StorrZerg wrote:
So whats the best way to go around and find my bodyfat %?

http://www.accumeasurefitness.com/

Most gyms/personal trainers should have them and be able to tell you your body fat %. Just ask.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 22 2009 15:52 GMT
#913
ah Well my gym at work is just an open gym no one really works there. Not like a gym you would get a membership to. Guess i'll have to find someplace else to go.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
July 22 2009 17:56 GMT
#914
On July 23 2009 00:52 StorrZerg wrote:
ah Well my gym at work is just an open gym no one really works there. Not like a gym you would get a membership to. Guess i'll have to find someplace else to go.


You can find your body fat % using that accumessure device. I have it it costs like $5 and you can get it on ebay.
The Prince of DroneS
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
July 22 2009 21:05 GMT
#915
Those devices suck and are like +/- 5% at best.

Best way to tell is to use a mirror. If you can't see your abs, you're over 10% and need to lose fat.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 01:52:18
July 23 2009 01:40 GMT
#916
So I dropped about 1/2 pound since last week. That's quite a bit for me. Now 157.6lbs!

My work out for this week will end up looking like this:

2.5-3.5 mile open water swims : 65 minutes - 90 minute (4 times)
8 mile run : 70 minutes (once)
beach volleyball : 60 minutes (once)
3- 2k's on the erg machine + upper body presses and dips + abs : 60 minutes (once)
lower body exercises + back and bicep + abs : 60 minutes (once)

I tried to do a full 60 minutes workout on the erg machine yesterday with 2k's on 10 minutes. The first one was 7:45. The second one was at 8:00, but I died on the third one, came in at 8:50, and had to stop. I can't believe I once held all 3 of those at 7:30 pace. But it was a really good work out.


Those devices suck and are like +/- 5% at best.
Best way to tell is to use a mirror. If you can't see your abs, you're over 10% and need to lose fat.

btw what does it mean to see your abs? And people don't NEED to lose fat. Having some body fat is usually healthier unless you are very regular with your diet and get a ridiculous amount of exercise. 10% is on the really low end.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 23 2009 01:53 GMT
#917
If you can see the outline of your abs you're probably down around 10-15%. If you can see individual abs you're definitely in the single digits. That's just guesstimations though.

A good skinfold measurer (someone who has done thousands) will probably be within +/- 2% BF which is pretty good.

Otherwise, if you can try to get a water displacement or a DEXA scan those are generally the most accurate.

Bioelectrical impedence like people have said before is like +/- 5%, and a lot depends on hydration + electrolyte levels as well.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
July 23 2009 02:10 GMT
#918
On July 23 2009 10:40 TanGeng wrote:
btw what does it mean to see your abs? And people don't NEED to lose fat. Having some body fat is usually healthier unless you are very regular with your diet and get a ridiculous amount of exercise. 10% is on the really low end.

Haha no, 10% is not low and you don't even need special diet or exercise. Just being generally active and smart about what you eat is enough to maintain it. Of course if you're a fatass, getting down there requires some work but that's just how it is.

I'm hanging around the 10% range because I'm not a bodybuilder or anything, I lift for fun and enjoy being able to eat pizza, fast food, etc if I want to. To rock a 6-pack or something (about 8-9%) would take me a LOT of work.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 02:15:50
July 23 2009 02:15 GMT
#919
Sonu
Age: 16.
Current Weight: 165 lbz
Goal Weight - 150
Starting Date: June 16, 2009
Goal Date: June16, 2010

I am just trying to lose belly fat. thats all, but weight lifting and what not will surely help. I think some of my weight is bone XD wtvr. Im joining this!
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 02:16:54
July 23 2009 02:16 GMT
#920
It doesn't take much work to have an awesome six pack if you are willing to ignore hunger


On July 23 2009 11:15 Sonu wrote:
Sonu
Age: 16.
Current Weight: 165 lbz
Goal Weight - 150
Starting Date: June 16, 2009
Goal Date: June16, 2010

I am just trying to lose belly fat. thats all, but weight lifting and what not will surely help. I think some of my weight is bone XD wtvr. Im joining this!


i sure hope so!!
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