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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
June 02 2022 15:53 GMT
#2761
I love Confederations cup - its a chance to see teams playing each other from all continents.

Only Elitist Europeans dont care about it. The rest of the world loves it
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
June 02 2022 16:17 GMT
#2762
I saw bits of it in the pub, but I’m a football nut and didn’t even know it was on, only happened to catch it as I was out for Scotland vs Ukraine.

Shame as semi-collective friendlies goes it seems a great idea.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 02 2022 16:56 GMT
#2763
International football is always hard to be interested in when there is nothing on the line. I like England but im in Debruyne camp where these nations leagues game now are just stupidly pointless after the hard season for all and with a world cup coming up in the winter.

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
June 02 2022 17:29 GMT
#2764
The Nation’s League is a considerable step up from friendlies. Credit where credit is due, amidst many fuckups UEFA did a good job injecting some (slightly) more meaningful games in place of friendlies, and more space for good prep for tournaments. I think the Conference League has proven surprisingly enjoyable too, but I think it’s not quite worked as a way to get big teams from small leagues more high profile matches. Still, Bodo and Roma’s rivalry was fun!

I don’t think the Confederations Cup suffers from a European elitism, just a lack of competitive legitimacy amidst a very squeezed football calendar.

It’s a good idea but I’ve seen South American sides bring more experimental/developmental sides to it as well, it’s status as a good warmup tournament in the fan’s eyes is reflected by how the teams themselves approach it

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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28910 Posts
June 02 2022 19:47 GMT
#2765
I like the nations league a lot. It's very exciting for the 'don't consistently qualify through the main qualifier'-teams.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10011 Posts
June 02 2022 20:21 GMT
#2766
The problem isn't internationals, its the amount of club games in a season.
RIP Meatloaf <3
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2669 Posts
June 02 2022 20:35 GMT
#2767
Haaland scores again!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28910 Posts
June 02 2022 21:36 GMT
#2768
16 goals in 18 games for Norway.. he's gonna be our top goal scorer through all time when he's 23..
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-02 22:50:03
June 02 2022 22:48 GMT
#2769
Well for me the nations league right now after the end of this tough season and the sheer amount of the games is silly. 14th June is England last game, that means those guys will get 2 weeks off before pre season begins 1st july as season begins 1st week August cuz of winter world cup.

That isn't much of a recharge for these guys for "nations league", UEFA just cannot organise anything, they should have just cancelled the nations league for one cycle of qualifiers because of the covid backlog. Or at least maybe just let it run longer and remove the qualification from it because it will last longer.

2 Games which lasts 10 days after a season end would make sense, but not this much.


Just read that Yanited are starting back 27th June, which is <2 weeks after the last England game (obviously they will get more time off maybe a week extra and rejoin in July) so that is like 3 weeks off max?
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
June 03 2022 07:42 GMT
#2770
That's still more of a problem with club football than with national teams. Players in the leagues with 36+ games, let's say 8 games in europe and handful more from domestic cups have at least 50 games a year just in their club season. That's a lot of games for the very top teams, but for vast majority there is maybe ten less as lot of leagues are smaller, and European club games are a concern for only minority of teams. Plus the pre-seasons are a self-inflicted problem imo, does ManU really need to fly to Australia to play some half-assed pre season friendlies that early?

I'm sure your De Bruynes and Salahs and Stirlings could do with a bit more time off, but sacrificing Nations League which to me (after initial scepticism) has looked like one of the better UEFA inventions for the benefit of the top 5% of players seems silly. I'm very much with the sentiment that Nations League has made national team games much more meaningful for the teams that end up in the middle of the qualifier groups. Less mismatches against the minnows and less mismatches against the very top teams seems like win for everyone.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2115 Posts
June 03 2022 08:28 GMT
#2771
On June 03 2022 04:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I like the nations league a lot. It's very exciting for the 'don't consistently qualify through the main qualifier'-teams.

Yeah. Two things going for it are the Euro qualifying chances and the ranked tiers that ensure most matches are between teams of very similar strength. As much as it's cool to have a chance in beating some of the top dogs, it's also really fun when your team actually has a legit chance in every match.

Apart from the extra strain for the players, the biggest downside is probably the messy qualification scheme alongside the actual Euro qualifiers.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
June 03 2022 20:14 GMT
#2772
Imo de bruyne hasnt won anything with his country and hasnt even reached a final afaik? He has no right to call the nations league out. Maybe should have tried to win it
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2022 21:17 GMT
#2773
Its just because at the end of this season it just feels so empty to play it, also with a world cup so close. Belgium got spanked by Netherlands tonight which funny.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-04 08:48:13
June 04 2022 08:47 GMT
#2774
You have to feel a bit sorry for Wales.
They had to play Denmark in the EURO 2020 after Eriksen and now they have to play Ukraine. This for a team that is used to general international support, being an underdog in most big matches.
RIP Meatloaf <3
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 04 2022 23:16 GMT
#2775
Where the hell are all the reaction and post game analysis videos of Hungary beating England lol

This is like when Iceland won but 10x worse.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 05 2022 01:25 GMT
#2776
England were awful and Southgate blaming the heat xD

He made awful subs, played people in wrong positions and tactically the back 3 was never working and blamed the heat!
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
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June 05 2022 02:38 GMT
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
June 05 2022 18:01 GMT
#2779
Bale just wrote history with Wales too
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2115 Posts
June 05 2022 18:07 GMT
#2780
These single tie knockout matches for world cup are super brutal. I guess the point was already made when Italy got knocked out by North Macedonia, but the recent results really reminded me of the tournament structure.

I guess the other alternative would be even more games with strained players though, so this might be the lesser evil.
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