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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On May 30 2022 14:34 Bacillus wrote:
It'll be interesting to see what kind of conclusions RM make of their season. La Liga title & UCL title run vs all the top dogs signal an absolute blinder of a season. But then again you look at it and it has relied on Benz being in insane form at 34 years of age, Modric staying world class at 36, Courtois pulling off miracles and barely scraping wins together defying almost all the probabilities and so on. In La Liga both Barca and Atletico had some of their weaker seasons too.
How do you rate a season like that? Results wise it's a almost a 10 out of 10, but at the same time they've seemingly got outplayed in so many games. Any of the multiple keys moment goes different and more competition in La Liga and suddenly it could be a very underwhelming UCL exit and finishing 3rd in La Liga.
If they’re smart, they don’t rest on their laurels.
I will die on my hill that Real could have gone out at any stage of the knockouts and it would have been merited. I can’t think of many teams who haven’t had ties or individual legs they were second best in, but with Real it was almost all of them.
Shades to me of Man United’s last league winning side. Lots of veterans getting over the line in a (relatively) low points tally as other teams weren’t at their best. Fergie knew he was retiring and got one last hurrah, but we saw what happened afterwards when other teams stepped up and United botched the huge rebuild that squad needed.
Real have also been banking money for the Mbappe move, only to have the embarrassment of not sealing it. They didn’t push for Haaland because they thought they had that sealed, and now it’s too late.
On the plus side, they have banked money for a wider refresh. Rudiger on a free is a smart acquisition and I think Camavinga is a special talent who we’ll see start a lot more games. Add a real top notch ball playing midfielder in the Kroos/Modric mould and they’re well on their way.
I know he’s not a player in that mould exactly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them go for Paul Pogba as his interminable love/hate period at United seems done.
If they can get Hazard fit he’s an exceptional talent and with his past injury record it’s almost like having a new player and personally I’d love to see him back, or sold if they’re not going to give him that opportunity.
They’ll 100% be in rude health if they build from a position of strength. Well not strength so much as glory.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
Champions League final: Fake tickets triggered Paris final chaos - France
Some updates on this story. Probably more to follow as there’s a meeting of various involved bodies later today.
The French authorities at least seem to be corroborating the Liverpool fans/Merseyside police’s story that it was not Liverpool fans trying to force entry into the ground anyway.
It would stand to reason that closing said gates due to that and bottlenecking Liverpool supporters into a smaller area lead to further issues.
The presence of many fake tickets, plus more pressure on those processing them lead to yet more chaos, and tales such as Andy Robertson conveyed that 100% legitimate tickets got flagged as fake.
I’d wager those in possession of fake tickets would break down into people knowingly trying their luck to gain entry, but also people desperate to attend the match being hoodwinked looking to obtain one.
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The ticket thing feels weird to me. Every year there are tons of events of all kinds that have a huge market for fake tickets. You'd think the process has been figured at this point, up to a point where they have a pretty well mapped out response to most scenarios that can happen.
Is it just the sheer volume of fakes that caused them trouble?
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I'm just wondering what happened to Holograms etc. on tickets that fakers can't reproduce.
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Norway28910 Posts
Tbh I have no problem understanding that thousands of people having fake tickets, showing up to the stadium a bit drunk, super eager to watch the final, only to be told 'no sry ur ticket is fake' results in some super pissed off people and a riot-y situation.
People should know only to buy from the official vendor by now but then the official vendor is sold out and there's some dude claiming to be able to help you out and he shows you a picture of his ticket and you think oh that looks just like the real one and the price is alright.. This is unfortunate, of course, but I think it's all understandable.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 30 2022 15:15 sharkie wrote:
You rate a season like that a 10 but know of your shortcomings and address them in the transfer window imo.
Lets see if real will do that
Well they have bought in Rudiger that is a big plus as Militao plus Alaba aint it as proven with the amount of chances conceded for Tibo to bail them out on.
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Police violence towards crowds is a common occurence in France, we're the country of strikes, it's not a legend, we have crowd vs police events on an almost weekly basis. Just shame our police forces, the government is always blaming protestors, even if they're peaceful. It's not all police's fault though, our police force has been overworked for years because of terrorism threat then yellow jackets movement and they've been underfunded for years.
If anything, a whole lot of international shame on our government is what we need, shame us please.
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Other countries and cities host these kind of events (world cup, olympics), spend billions of dollar to GET PEOPLE to visit the cities/countries and the Frenchie is like "Wtf why did klopp tell people come to our city"
LOL
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United Kingdom10011 Posts
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"Its only with certain English clubs that there are problems."
What about that with St. Etienne the other day?
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Apparently should just have held it in St. Petersburg. The Russians seem to like war, so a bit of a melee in front of the stadium would no doubt he welcomed! Also, I'm sure they know what to do with fake tickets, their gulags have plenty of space!
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
Frankfurt and Rangers issue statement
I’m pretty sure, in the absence of evidence to the contrary anyway that the release of this statement is in some way in solidarity with fans at the CL final, and the continued changing of stories, shifting of blame and back peddling from the authorities there.
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“Riot police told us to climb over a fence. I had my jacket in two hands but had to release it from one hand to climb over the fence, and as I was pulling my coat over these dippers went into my pocket. It was literally a second. These were professional gangs. They knew it was rich pickings for them and lots of people got their phones and wallets taken.
“I walked over to the police to tell them I’d had everything stolen and one of them said: ‘Welcome to Paris.’ Some Liverpool fans shouted to them: “He’s our mayor.” Two French lads who had come over to help translated to the gendarme, who were nonplussed until one of the lads Googled me and showed it to a gendarme. He immediately took me through to get a duplicate ticket.”
Once inside the VIP section of the stadium Rotheram asked Gianni Infantino, the president of Fifa, and former French president Nicolas Sarkozy to do something about the chaos outside, where fans were being teargassed by police. Infantino was “amenable” but allegedly said “it wasn’t Fifa’s jurisdiction”. Sarkozy was moved on.
Rotheram then spotted Uefa’s president, Aleksander Ceferin. “I politely introduced myself and explained what I’d witnessed and the concerns I had,” he explains. “He seemed oblivious to it. He said to me: ‘We’ve only had three months to organise this, we’ve killed ourselves to get this game on.’ To which I replied: ‘I’m more concerned that people aren’t killed outside’. He indicated that I was being disrespectful. I just couldn’t take my seat and watch the game in the end. I was just devastated at what could have happened outside.”
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
Well, looks like Scotland, the land of my forebears aren’t looking likely to make a first World Cup since 98.
Still it’s made more palatable by it being Ukraine
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51703 Posts
raise your hand if you were even aware italy played argentina in a glorified international super cup today
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51703 Posts
also i feel sorry for wales, they have to play 5 fixtures in the span of 14 days which is down right fucked.
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On June 02 2022 10:17 GTR wrote:
raise your hand if you were even aware italy played argentina in a glorified international super cup today
I did because i read football news daily but interested me zero as i dislike both countries :D
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I think it is fine. It is only one match, all tickets were sold and European and South America national teams rarely play each other.
It is better that the Confederations cup. Lot of matches for a irrelevant cup that nobody cared.
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