EPTOh well, he has to go and buy some defenders after he lands Kai and then after that, he will have to show some defensive prowess with his purposely bought in defense, or he will be gone. I want to win the world with Frank but the defensive issues are so obvious to see its baffling.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Oh well, he has to go and buy some defenders after he lands Kai and then after that, he will have to show some defensive prowess with his purposely bought in defense, or he will be gone. I want to win the world with Frank but the defensive issues are so obvious to see its baffling. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Lewy such a Gawd. I feel bad for him , because of lack of rewards. Bayern vs Barcelona gonna be hell of a match O_o | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On August 09 2020 06:02 739 wrote: Robert Lewandowski has now scored 13 goals in 7 Champions League games this season, the most ever at this stage (before quarterfinals) of the competition ever (equal with Cristiano Ronaldo in 2013/14). Lewy such a Gawd. I feel bad for him , because of lack of rewards. Bayern vs Barcelona gonna be hell of a match O_o If this Barça shows up, it's going to be a hell of a one sided match haha. Very disappointing but they won 3-1 anyway. Napoli didn't take enough risks I feel, there was space to hurt Barça... I think it's 60-40 Bayern, but for Barça facing a team like that and counter attacking could actually suit them. In a one game elimination, anything can happen I guess. As a Barça fan, I'm not sure I want the team to go much further to be honest, this board deserves to crash and burn. City Bayern would be an amazing semi final. The 2 best teams remaining imo. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On August 09 2020 06:14 WillyWanker wrote: If this Barça shows up, it's going to be a hell of a one sided match haha. Very disappointing but they won 3-1 anyway. Napoli didn't take enough risks I feel, there was space to hurt Barça... I think it's 60-40 Bayern, but for Barça facing a team like that and counter attacking could actually suit them. In a one game elimination, anything can happen I guess. As a Barça fan, I'm not sure I want the team to go much further to be honest, this board deserves to crash and burn. City Bayern would be an amazing semi final. The 2 best teams remaining imo. 60-40 sounds about right. Really depends on which Barca shows up and how much Messi can do on his own. | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
It's always a chance to take a former player without coaching experience but he could become great. And they kind of tried all the Italian coaches and not like Italy is the number one choice for international coaches, plus the style in Italy can be hard to learn. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18132 Posts
On August 09 2020 14:59 Sapaio wrote: Of all the former players that i know, i can think of anybody that would have the stuff to become a great coach more than Pirlo. A leader on the midfield, with a great vision and understanding of tactics. It's always a chance to take a former player without coaching experience but he could become great. And they kind of tried all the Italian coaches and not like Italy is the number one choice for international coaches, plus the style in Italy can be hard to learn. I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised. It's not as if this hasn't happened before. Zidane is the obvious one, and Guardiola. But in England you have Solskjaer and Lampard, who had basically no experience either. And in Italy it isn't new either: AC Milan appointed Seedorf as head coach when he had no experience coaching at all (he was still playing at the time), and then Inzaghi when Seedorf turned out to not be a great coach (with no greater success, so maybe these two should be cautionary tales *not* to hire players as managers immediately) | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
On August 09 2020 17:00 Acrofales wrote: I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised. It's not as if this hasn't happened before. Zidane is the obvious one, and Guardiola. But in England you have Solskjaer and Lampard, who had basically no experience either. And in Italy it isn't new either: AC Milan appointed Seedorf as head coach when he had no experience coaching at all (he was still playing at the time), and then Inzaghi when Seedorf turned out to not be a great coach (with no greater success, so maybe these two should be cautionary tales *not* to hire players as managers immediately) I was not surprised, i know of former players succeeding in football coaching. I meant of the players that was not yet coaching Pirlo is the obvious choice to become a great one, judging only on what i know of him as a player. Reminds me most of Pep, a play making deep defensive mid, with great vision and passing skills. Bit surprised Juve appointed him HC now, and not let him have a season as U23 coach. Pep and Zidane had a year has coaches for the B team, Lampard a year in Derby. Solskær have been coaching since 2011, in Norway and a failed trip to Cardiff fin PL, so he was experienced coach before Man U. Regarding Inzaghi and Seedorff both where at AC Milan. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On August 09 2020 17:00 Acrofales wrote: I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised. It's not as if this hasn't happened before. Zidane is the obvious one, and Guardiola. But in England you have Solskjaer and Lampard, who had basically no experience either. And in Italy it isn't new either: AC Milan appointed Seedorf as head coach when he had no experience coaching at all (he was still playing at the time), and then Inzaghi when Seedorf turned out to not be a great coach (with no greater success, so maybe these two should be cautionary tales *not* to hire players as managers immediately) The people you mentioned all had experience, atleast a full season worth. Zidane was Ancelotti's assistant coach when they won CL and trained the second team for 2 years. Wasn't he also DoF at Real before that ? I think it's a lot easier for the club to judge someone who has put that amount of work in. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18525 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18132 Posts
On August 09 2020 17:59 clusen wrote: The people you mentioned all had experience, atleast a full season worth. Zidane was Ancelotti's assistant coach when they won CL and trained the second team for 2 years. Wasn't he also DoF at Real before that ? I think it's a lot easier for the club to judge someone who has put that amount of work in. I guess you're right about Zidane: he had some practice as assistant coach under Ancelotti and 2 years with the B team. I should also not have mentioned Solskjaer, I didn't know he had done 2 stints at Molde (thought he went player -> Molde -> United). Guardiola had 1 season in Barça B. Pirlo has 1 season in the U19. I guess Barça B is a bigger team than the U19, but not by much. Lampard also only had 1 year of experience. Derby County I guess is a bit bigger? Dunno much about Championship teams. Seedorf had 0 experience. Inzhagi was coaching AC Milan's U19 for a year. I'm sure there are more. I'm guessing Pirlo will get the same opportunity as all these young unproven coaches: perform or get out. | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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haitike
Spain2720 Posts
On August 09 2020 19:16 Acrofales wrote: Guardiola had 1 season in Barça B. Pirlo has 1 season in the U19. I guess Barça B is a bigger team than the U19, but not by much. Guardiola Barcelona B in only one season finished 1st with a high winrate and won the promotion matches to the second division. That is quite hard to accomplish for a new coach. It is very hard to promote from the 3rd tier to the 2nd tier in Spain. There is currently no B teams in the second division, for example. Pirlo is not comparable. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26101 Posts
On August 09 2020 21:00 haitike wrote: Guardiola Barcelona B in only one season finished 1st with a high winrate and won the promotion matches to the second division. That is quite hard to accomplish for a new coach. It is very hard to promote from the 3rd tier to the 2nd tier in Spain. There is currently no B teams in the second division, for example. Pirlo is not comparable. Guardiola was also Cruyff’s general on the pitch and Barca is a very romantic club in having at least an idea of philosophy of play. Pep was very much Cruyff’s disciple in this sense. Juventus don’t really have that romantic ideal of play or the ‘Juve way’. Not a bad thing necessarily but they’re a pragmatic club who win things. I think Pirlo is more comparable to a Zidane, a legend of the game who the big names will listen to and whose remit is more man management, and he might well succeed at Juve in that regard. While maybe out of the conversation nowadays, Roberto Mancini is a good example of a player who was ready to step into coaching immediately because he’d always been the coach’s eye on the field (had a tight relationship with Sven Goran Erikson for example) and was doing technical coaching work as a player. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
On August 09 2020 21:21 Wombat_NI wrote: Guardiola was also Cruyff’s general on the pitch and Barca is a very romantic club in having at least an idea of philosophy of play. Pep was very much Cruyff’s disciple in this sense. Juventus don’t really have that romantic ideal of play or the ‘Juve way’. Not a bad thing necessarily but they’re a pragmatic club who win things. I think Pirlo is more comparable to a Zidane, a legend of the game who the big names will listen to and whose remit is more man management, and he might well succeed at Juve in that regard. While maybe out of the conversation nowadays, Roberto Mancini is a good example of a player who was ready to step into coaching immediately because he’d always been the coach’s eye on the field (had a tight relationship with Sven Goran Erikson for example) and was doing technical coaching work as a player. I still think Pirlo was more semilar as a player to Pep, Also i can see that Pep has influence from Cruff but pep devolped his own style and it's more fluent than Cruff. Fx the false 9, and Backs that turn into controlling midfielders when Attacking. Pirlo is less of a club man, having played for AC and Inter Milan also. So i agree he has more influence then Pep. But think his role as deep midfielder will make his team much more organiser than Zidane's. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
If true Nike will easily make a billion+ a year. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18525 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On August 09 2020 23:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Now being said Ronaldo is interested in joining PSG lol https://twitter.com/goal/status/1292443585896484864 If true Nike will easily make a billion+ a year. That has been speculated in Portuguese media for months and a few days ago it was reported that he is focused on Juve (moreso after Sarri is gone, his main problem with Juve is solved). The PSG thing was from Jan/Feb and newspapers report it to have failed due to COVID, at least that was what was reported around here a few weeks ago. | ||
Dingodile
4137 Posts
Next season is the 3rd season for CR7 in Italy. Then he should/can move somewhere else. CR7 at PSG is very scary. Playing along with Neymar, Mbappe und DiMaria. | ||
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