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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 09 2020 20:41 GMT
#4281
Hmm C7 Neymar seems like a way to destroy a team. Just my view.
GO OG
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-09 22:11:51
August 09 2020 22:11 GMT
#4282
CR7 is a billionaire, I think his motivations are less about money at this point.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28866 Posts
August 09 2020 22:19 GMT
#4283
Meh if you've accumulated enough to become a billionaire you've cared about money way beyond the point where it's rational to do so.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
August 09 2020 22:55 GMT
#4284
On August 09 2020 22:49 Sapaio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2020 21:21 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 09 2020 21:00 haitike wrote:
On August 09 2020 19:16 Acrofales wrote:
Guardiola had 1 season in Barça B. Pirlo has 1 season in the U19. I guess Barça B is a bigger team than the U19, but not by much.



Guardiola Barcelona B in only one season finished 1st with a high winrate and won the promotion matches to the second division. That is quite hard to accomplish for a new coach. It is very hard to promote from the 3rd tier to the 2nd tier in Spain. There is currently no B teams in the second division, for example.

Pirlo is not comparable.

Guardiola was also Cruyff’s general on the pitch and Barca is a very romantic club in having at least an idea of philosophy of play. Pep was very much Cruyff’s disciple in this sense.

Juventus don’t really have that romantic ideal of play or the ‘Juve way’. Not a bad thing necessarily but they’re a pragmatic club who win things.

I think Pirlo is more comparable to a Zidane, a legend of the game who the big names will listen to and whose remit is more man management, and he might well succeed at Juve in that regard.

While maybe out of the conversation nowadays, Roberto Mancini is a good example of a player who was ready to step into coaching immediately because he’d always been the coach’s eye on the field (had a tight relationship with Sven Goran Erikson for example) and was doing technical coaching work as a player.


I still think Pirlo was more semilar as a player to Pep, Also i can see that Pep has influence from Cruff but pep devolped his own style and it's more fluent than Cruff. Fx the false 9, and Backs that turn into controlling midfielders when Attacking. Pirlo is less of a club man, having played for AC and Inter Milan also. So i agree he has more influence then Pep. But think his role as deep midfielder will make his team much more organiser than Zidane's.

Pirlo is a good creative deep lying midfielder, I don’t think it necessarily means his teams can do that in beautiful style.

I think one of the mistakes people make is transmuting a player’s characteristics onto them as a coach. Pep was a pretty functional midfielder, someone like Pochettino was a good centre back.
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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
August 10 2020 08:20 GMT
#4285
Dortmund's transfer deadline has passed, looks like Sancho is going to stay another year.
Liverpool apparently are close to signing Tsimikas from Olympiakos as backup for the LB position. Anyone knows more about this guy? Kind of a surprise signing for me.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
August 10 2020 08:32 GMT
#4286
I just read that coutinho wants to wait talking about transfers because he wants to focus on winning the champions league first.

How sad would it be if coutinho wins CL with Bayern while barca wait quite a while now?
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 10 2020 10:52 GMT
#4287
On August 10 2020 17:32 sharkie wrote:
I just read that coutinho wants to wait talking about transfers because he wants to focus on winning the champions league first.

That's the spirit =)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 10 2020 13:41 GMT
#4288
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
August 10 2020 14:39 GMT
#4289
On August 10 2020 17:32 sharkie wrote:
I just read that coutinho wants to wait talking about transfers because he wants to focus on winning the champions league first.

How sad would it be if coutinho wins CL with Bayern while barca wait quite a while now?

Sad for whom? If he wins, good for him and probably good for Barça who could sell him for more if he plays and looks good. Obviously I want Barça to win that tie, but if it proves impossible, I wouldn't mind Coutinho sticking it to Bartomeu somehow haha
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
August 10 2020 14:43 GMT
#4290
On August 10 2020 23:39 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2020 17:32 sharkie wrote:
I just read that coutinho wants to wait talking about transfers because he wants to focus on winning the champions league first.

How sad would it be if coutinho wins CL with Bayern while barca wait quite a while now?

Sad for whom? If he wins, good for him and probably good for Barça who could sell him for more if he plays and looks good. Obviously I want Barça to win that tie, but if it proves impossible, I wouldn't mind Coutinho sticking it to Bartomeu somehow haha


Sad for the whole club of barcelona?
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-10 14:55:17
August 10 2020 14:54 GMT
#4291
I don't know if it can get much worse haha. They were talking about loaning him to Arsenal who doesn't want to pay his full wages... It's already been a catastrophic deal, I don't think waiting 2 more weeks will change much.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
August 10 2020 16:30 GMT
#4292
only 4 players scored 20+ goals in k.o. games UCL. T.Müller and Lewa scored 22, Messi 47 and cr7 67 goals.
Says alot "how bad top scorers" are in k.o. games but they are very good in groupstages.
Van Nistelrooy only scored 6 in k.o. games of his 56 goals.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-10 18:53:29
August 10 2020 18:53 GMT
#4293
On August 10 2020 23:43 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2020 23:39 WillyWanker wrote:
On August 10 2020 17:32 sharkie wrote:
I just read that coutinho wants to wait talking about transfers because he wants to focus on winning the champions league first.

How sad would it be if coutinho wins CL with Bayern while barca wait quite a while now?

Sad for whom? If he wins, good for him and probably good for Barça who could sell him for more if he plays and looks good. Obviously I want Barça to win that tie, but if it proves impossible, I wouldn't mind Coutinho sticking it to Bartomeu somehow haha


Sad for the whole club of barcelona?


Of the things to be sad about, this would barely make Middle tier lol.

WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
August 10 2020 20:12 GMT
#4294
On August 11 2020 01:30 Dingodile wrote:
only 4 players scored 20+ goals in k.o. games UCL. T.Müller and Lewa scored 22, Messi 47 and cr7 67 goals.
Says alot "how bad top scorers" are in k.o. games but they are very good in groupstages.
Van Nistelrooy only scored 6 in k.o. games of his 56 goals.

You also have to be at clubs in that consistently make the knockout stages too.

It’s worth noting that the CL also had a second group stage for a fair period, with often quite stacked groups in the round of 16! So players who were at their peak in that span had a fair few seasons under that format. Plus of course in the European Cup days every match was a knockout game.

Quite annoyed my local bar isn’t showing the Inter match. I know United are the bigger draw. They used to show multiple matches but apparently don’t do that in this post-lockdown world

Less confident we’ll go through with Havertz playing, thought he was sitting out the European games then realised it was Werner who was doing that!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
August 10 2020 20:18 GMT
#4295
United match not looking too impressive. Greenwood's finish was amazing in the disallowed goal though.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 10 2020 20:28 GMT
#4296
Giime Kai now!!! Leverkusen and Inter going toe to toe
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
August 10 2020 20:35 GMT
#4297
On August 11 2020 05:18 Firebolt145 wrote:
United match not looking too impressive. Greenwood's finish was amazing in the disallowed goal though.

Some player you have there. Can’t think of many players better with both feet either, outside of Santi Cazorla anyway. Opens up extra options for you and gives opposition defenders that little bit more to think about.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
August 10 2020 20:36 GMT
#4298
We've hit the post several times now
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 10 2020 22:13 GMT
#4299
On August 11 2020 01:30 Dingodile wrote:
only 4 players scored 20+ goals in k.o. games UCL. T.Müller and Lewa scored 22, Messi 47 and cr7 67 goals.
Says alot "how bad top scorers" are in k.o. games but they are very good in groupstages.
Van Nistelrooy only scored 6 in k.o. games of his 56 goals.

I like how Thomas Müller is on that list, not the one you would suspect the most I think.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8911 Posts
August 11 2020 07:29 GMT
#4300
just watched highlights for utd vs copenhagen.
that gk had an insane game last night. one of the best performances of his career for sure
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