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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
On August 08 2020 07:19 Wombat_NI wrote: Bale refused to be selected? Last I’d heard he was just omitted out of the match day squad entirely. Did something else come out? Here you go He preferred not be play, so my word of refusing is maybe to much. But saying that is pretty much the same. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On August 08 2020 07:15 Wombat_NI wrote: + Show Spoiler + #TeamOzil (Ok I’m being facetious here) Just going off what was reported of Ozil’s rationale at the time, and indeed a similar dispute was had over at Barcelona too which turned quite poisonous (their board seems a special kind of stupid at annoying their employees). If x amount of money needs to be saved, where is it going? Will it save the jobs of the non-playing staff? I presume the players are quite close to some of these individuals too. Ozil has quite the philanthropic streak, which is rather underpublicised, or at least tends to get skirted over, so I’m inclined to believe it’s not pure selfishness on his part. My napkin maths of 12.5% of Arsenal’s total wage bill for 4 months comes to 4.1 million pounds. My maths is already wrong because I went off Arsenal’s total wage bill and forgot to minus Ozil. Which is enough to pay 55 people an annual salary of £75000 each. From what I’ve heard these are more ‘unskilled’ workers so their salaries aren’t going to be anywhere near that. This is on the board and the owners, they’re just very lucky to have a lightning rod like Ozil that can divert attention away. It’s worth noting the other players are also now pissed off here too, as they received assurances that their wage cuts would guarantee these jobs. Which all points to Ozil’s instincts being right in the first place and the owners taking the piss and making the players responsible for any negative PR that redundancies would bring. I presume people in more regular industries have taken cuts partly to help keep their colleagues in employment and made all sorts of sacrifices. It’s another thing entirely to be asked to make those sacrifices and people be fired around you anyway. For all Ozil’s wealth, keeping these people employed for a year is still a decent chunk of a yearly salary. For Kronke it is the equivalent of change you find down your sofa. You want to buy a football club that’s near and dear to huge amounts of people? Then do it. Want to run it like a business in a cutthroat manner, go right ahead. It’s complete bullshit to offset potential risk and losses onto players and make them take the PR hit for paying your other employees /Rant. God are there any clubs not run by pieces of shit anymore? I already implied that I agree with your view of Kroenke/Arsenals way of handling the situation, it's just that I see Özil as a special case due to his salary and his performances on and off the pitch in recent years. The story has more of a spiderman meme-vibe to me than a 2020 version of the little guy sticking it to the big bad meanie. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On August 08 2020 20:22 Pandemona wrote: Sarri is gone then it seems and Pochettino is being lined up, wonder how Poch will cope in Italy with Juventus. He will win the league and fail in the CL, the same way every other manager would do. Seriously they should experiment with you or a training cone at some point. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26763 Posts
On August 08 2020 20:22 Pandemona wrote: Sarri is gone then it seems and Pochettino is being lined up, wonder how Poch will cope in Italy with Juventus. Don’t see why he wouldn’t prosper. One can never know though. Not sure it’s a great club for him mind, still think United missed a trick, hugely. I’m convinced Poch can win with big teams and up their level if given a bit of time. I’m not so sure he can do that right out of the starting blocks though and at Juve, along with Bayern and PSG he’s at one of the few clubs where not winning the league is seen as a failure. Personally rather irritated :p Inter are assembling a great Conte team. Not necessarily a great team for the next guy but for Conte the acquisitions look solid. No idea how we were able to get Hakimi, think he’ll be even more potent as a wing back than he was as a fullback for Dortmund. I have a huge soft spot for Eriksen too. Was quite excited for my Nerazurri breaking our duck but if Pochettino works his stuff could be tricky. Ah Sarri, his last two jobs have been interesting although a bit disappointing for the neutral. He’s never really fully got his Napoli era ‘Sarri ball’ going, on the other hand at Juve he’s shown he’s a more pragmatic and adaptable coach than some had thought. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26763 Posts
On August 08 2020 21:49 Pandemona wrote: Rumour is btw Conte will leave for "Not being backed in transfer market" again was an article about it the other week in Italy, might not have come to anything though. Truly the genius of Conte, he must do this about once every 9 days. This brinksmanship does seem to actually be working for him at Inter rather well. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On August 08 2020 07:15 Wombat_NI wrote: #TeamOzil (Ok I’m being facetious here) Just going off what was reported of Ozil’s rationale at the time, and indeed a similar dispute was had over at Barcelona too which turned quite poisonous (their board seems a special kind of stupid at annoying their employees). If x amount of money needs to be saved, where is it going? Will it save the jobs of the non-playing staff? I presume the players are quite close to some of these individuals too. Ozil has quite the philanthropic streak, which is rather underpublicised, or at least tends to get skirted over, so I’m inclined to believe it’s not pure selfishness on his part. My napkin maths of 12.5% of Arsenal’s total wage bill for 4 months comes to 4.1 million pounds. My maths is already wrong because I went off Arsenal’s total wage bill and forgot to minus Ozil. Which is enough to pay 55 people an annual salary of £75000 each. From what I’ve heard these are more ‘unskilled’ workers so their salaries aren’t going to be anywhere near that. This is on the board and the owners, they’re just very lucky to have a lightning rod like Ozil that can divert attention away. It’s worth noting the other players are also now pissed off here too, as they received assurances that their wage cuts would guarantee these jobs. Which all points to Ozil’s instincts being right in the first place and the owners taking the piss and making the players responsible for any negative PR that redundancies would bring. I presume people in more regular industries have taken cuts partly to help keep their colleagues in employment and made all sorts of sacrifices. It’s another thing entirely to be asked to make those sacrifices and people be fired around you anyway. For all Ozil’s wealth, keeping these people employed for a year is still a decent chunk of a yearly salary. For Kronke it is the equivalent of change you find down your sofa. You want to buy a football club that’s near and dear to huge amounts of people? Then do it. Want to run it like a business in a cutthroat manner, go right ahead. It’s complete bullshit to offset potential risk and losses onto players and make them take the PR hit for paying your other employees /Rant. God are there any clubs not run by pieces of shit anymore? i agree here, never knew why people would blame players instead of the owners who are at the very least 100x richer than the players themselves. could the players take less? sure, but so can the owners/clubs. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On August 08 2020 21:54 Wombat_NI wrote: Truly the genius of Conte, he must do this about once every 9 days. This brinksmanship does seem to actually be working for him at Inter rather well. Crazy though when rumours are about that at Inter...he has signed so many players and spent so much too. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
Let's see if it's true, 2 high profile journos from Italy agree it's done | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Pedulla - Contract talks underway with Poch Alvise Cagnazzo (another italian journo) - Zidane 1st choice 3 italian journos all said 3 diffo names 3 respected journos in Italy say all different lol. Ok now its commuicdao officiallllll xd Pirlo has "coached" one u19 game or something and is now coach wtf | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On August 09 2020 02:58 Pandemona wrote: Di Marzio - Pirlo got job its done watch this space Pedulla - Contract talks underway with Poch Alvise Cagnazzo (another italian journo) - Zidane 1st choice 3 italian journos all said 3 diffo names 3 respected journos in Italy say all different lol. Ok now its commuicdao officiallllll xd Pirlo has "coached" one u19 game or something and is now coach wtf Fabrizio Romano also said Pirlo, he and di Marzio are usually well informed as far as I know. Can't judge the other names. Pirlo has no experience as coach, not even youth teams or assistant coach. It's going to be interesting, that's for sure. | ||
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
LETS GO BARCAAAAAAA THAT MESSI GOAL o_O | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On August 09 2020 04:52 clusen wrote: What a half-assed performance by Bayern More than enough for Chelsea it would seem. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On August 09 2020 05:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: More than enough for Chelsea it would seem. I don't think it would've been enough against a proper Chelsea side (without injuries), but yeah. Seeing Süle back makes me really happy tho =) | ||
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