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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
May 07 2020 09:33 GMT
#3501
On May 07 2020 16:55 Harris1st wrote:
Also Cologne for the funsies

At some point they had a 24/7 livestream of their mascot goat chilling in its pen.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-07 17:29:42
May 07 2020 17:28 GMT
#3502
Im a Schalke boy cuz of my man Saneeeeeee he is a beast and should be back fit for the resumption right?

Oh and i made a whole FIFA Ultiamte team based around Harit xD
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Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
May 07 2020 19:36 GMT
#3503
On May 07 2020 14:13 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:

If you don't care about 'corporate' clubs: Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim, Hertha



I can understand Leipzig, Wolfsburg and Schalke hate but Hoffe hate feels so weird to me. Dietmar Hopp born in Hoffenheim, he even played for hoffe while he was a teenager. He became a rich guy, then supported his childhood team for years. Now he owns the club. Whats wrong with this?

I know I know 50+1, corporate, rich guy etc etc... But this feels like much much different then Leipzig.
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 07 2020 20:31 GMT
#3504
Because it isn't based on money instead of merit and can be copied by every person with enough money and less savory motives.
I agree that Hopp is probably as good as it gets as it comes to big money owners, but if he can do it then everyone can do it and exactly this was proven by Leipzig.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
May 07 2020 20:57 GMT
#3505
On May 08 2020 04:36 Aceace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2020 14:13 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:

If you don't care about 'corporate' clubs: Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim, Hertha



I can understand Leipzig, Wolfsburg and Schalke hate but Hoffe hate feels so weird to me. Dietmar Hopp born in Hoffenheim, he even played for hoffe while he was a teenager. He became a rich guy, then supported his childhood team for years. Now he owns the club. Whats wrong with this?

I know I know 50+1, corporate, rich guy etc etc... But this feels like much much different then Leipzig.


I personally have no problems with rich guy clubs, Hoffenheim however are as corporate as it gets. A 3000 inhabitant town in the middle of nowhere that played in one of the lowest leagues before Hopp took over.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 07 2020 21:48 GMT
#3506
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2716 Posts
May 07 2020 22:11 GMT
#3507
How is making 5 substitutions related to the situation and covid19?

And after all this time, "the La Liga" must be a joke or something. It can't be on purpose.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
May 07 2020 22:50 GMT
#3508
On May 08 2020 07:11 haitike wrote:
How is making 5 substitutions related to the situation and covid19?

And after all this time, "the La Liga" must be a joke or something. It can't be on purpose.


They are simply following the 2 week old FIFA suggestions and where most associations said that if they are to continue, they would most likely follow those suggestions.

OUTRAGEOUS!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 08 2020 01:36 GMT
#3509
Top-flight players are to hold talks with Premier League executives next week, before any attempt to restart the football season can be signed off.

Players are to be given the chance to air any concerns over Project Restart in a video-conference call likely to include representatives of all 20 clubs.

The discussion will follow the Premier League shareholders meeting on Monday, when finished versions of protocols defining a return to training and competitive matches are to be debated. In a process set to involve the Professional Footballers’ Association and the League Managers Association, players will then be consulted on the proposals before a select group hold talks with league officials.

Sheffield United’s manager, Chris Wilder, said on Thursday that he would allow players to opt out if the season restarts. “If any individual player took that decision and came to me and said, ‘It’s not for me,’ I’d respect that,” he told BeIN Sports.

Football faces a decisive seven days as government advice on the potential easing of lockdown restrictions, due on Sunday night, sets in motion a train of events that will determine the game’s immediate future.

Last week the league and its shareholder clubs agreed that players and managers “are key to the process” of restarting play, but largely their voices have been absent from any debate.

While some prominent figures such as Manchester City’s Sergio Agüero and the West Ham manager, David Moyes have aired concerns, there is uncertainty as to what a majority view may be over any return. Burnley’s manager, Sean Dyche, articulated a more positive position this week when he said: “We are very pro the idea of moving forward, when we can of course and when it’s safe, and the players are clear-minded about that as well.”

The league has taken further steps to enable the testing of players and staff for Covid-19. It is expected to agree a deal with a Hong Kong-based company, Prenetics, for the provision of 40,000 home testing kits.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-08 07:49:41
May 08 2020 07:41 GMT
#3510
On May 08 2020 05:57 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2020 04:36 Aceace wrote:
On May 07 2020 14:13 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:

If you don't care about 'corporate' clubs: Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim, Hertha



I can understand Leipzig, Wolfsburg and Schalke hate but Hoffe hate feels so weird to me. Dietmar Hopp born in Hoffenheim, he even played for hoffe while he was a teenager. He became a rich guy, then supported his childhood team for years. Now he owns the club. Whats wrong with this?

I know I know 50+1, corporate, rich guy etc etc... But this feels like much much different then Leipzig.


I personally have no problems with rich guy clubs, Hoffenheim however are as corporate as it gets. A 3000 inhabitant town in the middle of nowhere that played in one of the lowest leagues before Hopp took over.

Afterwards Hopp actually behaved like every football romantic wanted to, tho. He sold the best players (Gustl and Carlos Eduardo or whatever his name was), focussed on producing youth talents etc.

The way he went about it in the beginning was sure to offend football germany, tho.

Now it's a club less corporate than St.Pauli or Dortmund - they just market better.

Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
May 08 2020 07:47 GMT
#3511
So while Covid infections and death rate in UK is at an all time high they think of restarting PL? Sounds like a solid plan....
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
May 08 2020 08:21 GMT
#3512
Korean League is starting in less than 2 hours btw
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 08 2020 08:39 GMT
#3513
On May 08 2020 10:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Top-flight players are to hold talks with Premier League executives next week, before any attempt to restart the football season can be signed off.

Players are to be given the chance to air any concerns over Project Restart in a video-conference call likely to include representatives of all 20 clubs.

The discussion will follow the Premier League shareholders meeting on Monday, when finished versions of protocols defining a return to training and competitive matches are to be debated. In a process set to involve the Professional Footballers’ Association and the League Managers Association, players will then be consulted on the proposals before a select group hold talks with league officials.

Sheffield United’s manager, Chris Wilder, said on Thursday that he would allow players to opt out if the season restarts. “If any individual player took that decision and came to me and said, ‘It’s not for me,’ I’d respect that,” he told BeIN Sports.

Football faces a decisive seven days as government advice on the potential easing of lockdown restrictions, due on Sunday night, sets in motion a train of events that will determine the game’s immediate future.

Last week the league and its shareholder clubs agreed that players and managers “are key to the process” of restarting play, but largely their voices have been absent from any debate.

While some prominent figures such as Manchester City’s Sergio Agüero and the West Ham manager, David Moyes have aired concerns, there is uncertainty as to what a majority view may be over any return. Burnley’s manager, Sean Dyche, articulated a more positive position this week when he said: “We are very pro the idea of moving forward, when we can of course and when it’s safe, and the players are clear-minded about that as well.”

The league has taken further steps to enable the testing of players and staff for Covid-19. It is expected to agree a deal with a Hong Kong-based company, Prenetics, for the provision of 40,000 home testing kits.


Source


I don't know if anyone reads these, but I don't. I think it would be better if you give a short summary of these walls of texts and your thoughts on what you're sharing.
Moderator
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6972 Posts
May 08 2020 10:07 GMT
#3514
On May 08 2020 17:39 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2020 10:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Top-flight players are to hold talks with Premier League executives next week, before any attempt to restart the football season can be signed off.

Players are to be given the chance to air any concerns over Project Restart in a video-conference call likely to include representatives of all 20 clubs.

The discussion will follow the Premier League shareholders meeting on Monday, when finished versions of protocols defining a return to training and competitive matches are to be debated. In a process set to involve the Professional Footballers’ Association and the League Managers Association, players will then be consulted on the proposals before a select group hold talks with league officials.

Sheffield United’s manager, Chris Wilder, said on Thursday that he would allow players to opt out if the season restarts. “If any individual player took that decision and came to me and said, ‘It’s not for me,’ I’d respect that,” he told BeIN Sports.

Football faces a decisive seven days as government advice on the potential easing of lockdown restrictions, due on Sunday night, sets in motion a train of events that will determine the game’s immediate future.

Last week the league and its shareholder clubs agreed that players and managers “are key to the process” of restarting play, but largely their voices have been absent from any debate.

While some prominent figures such as Manchester City’s Sergio Agüero and the West Ham manager, David Moyes have aired concerns, there is uncertainty as to what a majority view may be over any return. Burnley’s manager, Sean Dyche, articulated a more positive position this week when he said: “We are very pro the idea of moving forward, when we can of course and when it’s safe, and the players are clear-minded about that as well.”

The league has taken further steps to enable the testing of players and staff for Covid-19. It is expected to agree a deal with a Hong Kong-based company, Prenetics, for the provision of 40,000 home testing kits.


Source


I don't know if anyone reads these, but I don't. I think it would be better if you give a short summary of these walls of texts and your thoughts on what you're sharing.


I do. StealthBlue is one of my favorite posters here, because everything is with source :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 08 2020 10:39 GMT
#3515
On May 08 2020 16:47 Harris1st wrote:
So while Covid infections and death rate in UK is at an all time high they think of restarting PL? Sounds like a solid plan....

Our information is different to every other country though, as we produce figures with all deaths regardless of if they are in hospitals or not. The R rate is still below 0 though, even with the crazy issues we have in care homes which is the problem right now and why the R rate is higher than it was (between 0.5-0.9 right now)

PL won't be restarting until mid June at the earliest anyway.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 08 2020 11:54 GMT
#3516
So if Serie A is still finding players and their staff who are positive what makes Germany and Spain so confident they won't stumble upon the exact same?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 08 2020 11:58 GMT
#3517
Yeah you can't compare the numbers between countries.. our official death toll is 5288, but that's only the deaths counted where corona was confirmed with a test, while it's probably double the amount. Same with confirmed tests. People who are tested are those with heavy symptoms and in need of hospital care and hospital staff. Not people with some fever and respiratory complaints who get cured by staying at home.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 08 2020 11:59 GMT
#3518
On May 08 2020 19:07 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2020 17:39 Twisted wrote:
On May 08 2020 10:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Top-flight players are to hold talks with Premier League executives next week, before any attempt to restart the football season can be signed off.

Players are to be given the chance to air any concerns over Project Restart in a video-conference call likely to include representatives of all 20 clubs.

The discussion will follow the Premier League shareholders meeting on Monday, when finished versions of protocols defining a return to training and competitive matches are to be debated. In a process set to involve the Professional Footballers’ Association and the League Managers Association, players will then be consulted on the proposals before a select group hold talks with league officials.

Sheffield United’s manager, Chris Wilder, said on Thursday that he would allow players to opt out if the season restarts. “If any individual player took that decision and came to me and said, ‘It’s not for me,’ I’d respect that,” he told BeIN Sports.

Football faces a decisive seven days as government advice on the potential easing of lockdown restrictions, due on Sunday night, sets in motion a train of events that will determine the game’s immediate future.

Last week the league and its shareholder clubs agreed that players and managers “are key to the process” of restarting play, but largely their voices have been absent from any debate.

While some prominent figures such as Manchester City’s Sergio Agüero and the West Ham manager, David Moyes have aired concerns, there is uncertainty as to what a majority view may be over any return. Burnley’s manager, Sean Dyche, articulated a more positive position this week when he said: “We are very pro the idea of moving forward, when we can of course and when it’s safe, and the players are clear-minded about that as well.”

The league has taken further steps to enable the testing of players and staff for Covid-19. It is expected to agree a deal with a Hong Kong-based company, Prenetics, for the provision of 40,000 home testing kits.


Source


I don't know if anyone reads these, but I don't. I think it would be better if you give a short summary of these walls of texts and your thoughts on what you're sharing.


I do. StealthBlue is one of my favorite posters here, because everything is with source :D


Fair enough. Still think more people would read the source if a small summary is given (there must be more lazy people like me reading here )
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-08 12:28:30
May 08 2020 12:02 GMT
#3519
On May 08 2020 20:58 Twisted wrote:
Yeah you can't compare the numbers between countries.. our official death toll is 5288, but that's only the deaths counted where corona was confirmed with a test, while it's probably double the amount. Same with confirmed tests. People who are tested are those with heavy symptoms and in need of hospital care and hospital staff. Not people with some fever and respiratory complaints who get cured by staying at home.


wow double the amount? How come Netherlands has so many deaths? In Austria its the other way round that probably way too many deaths were accounted to covid but they just count any death with any correlation to it. So Austrian's official death toll will go down quite a lot once this is all over and time has been given to analyse everything

--------

OOC (Corona might not be so deadly at all):
Prof Sir David Spiegelhalter at the University of Cambridge: "Many people who die of Covid [the disease caused by coronavirus] would have died anyway within a short period," he says


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
May 08 2020 12:09 GMT
#3520
On May 08 2020 20:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So if Serie A is still finding players and their staff who are positive what makes Germany and Spain so confident they won't stumble upon the exact same?

https://twitter.com/SkySports/status/1258690606039101441


I am not sure what exactly you are asking? Germany has already done their first waves of tests and out of 1700 (first and second league of German football league) 10 were tested positive. I dont really see how the numbers should increase if the people stick to the given rules?
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