EPT2018 - 2019 Football Thread - Page 208
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evilfatsh1t
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On May 07 2019 10:38 evilfatsh1t wrote: looks like the season is going to end in the least crap way possible (outside of utd finishing out of top 4). city wins the league but they cant get a treble and liverpool win jackshit. United not making top 4 is a good thing tho. With the current squad anything other than league games will just be a distraction, and more money in the players pocket (pretty sure they get a pay cut if the squad doesn't make CL qualification). | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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GTR
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neville gasm's are just out of this world | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
Kompany was completely free, had the space - why not shoot from that position? Even if its not a wonder strike, its not too hard to hit ontarget and hope for a bad clearance or corner? | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8716 Posts
On May 07 2019 16:26 Pandemona wrote: Neville's rant about yanited last night went on for ages, be worth checking it out if you haven't seen it. pretty much the same thing hes been saying for a long time. cant disagree with anything he says though. saf and david gill did too good of a job that it left the club in an illusion that it could be replicated. it clearly cant and ed woodward's ego probably wont allow him to say hes failed at half his job and reorganise the structure and step aside like gary says. On May 07 2019 17:16 sharkie wrote: What I dont get is why Pep said in his interview that he didnt want Kompany shoot from that position. Kompany was completely free, had the space - why not shoot from that position? Even if its not a wonder strike, its not too hard to hit ontarget and hope for a bad clearance or corner? its been peps philosophy since forever that you dont shoot from long range if you have multiple passing options in attack, especially if youre a cb who has never scored from range. why waste a chance for much better attacking players than you, already in the right positions, to create better chances inside the box if youre most likely going to not score? passing to better players is the better probability play | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9707 Posts
On May 07 2019 17:16 sharkie wrote: What I dont get is why Pep said in his interview that he didnt want Kompany shoot from that position. Kompany was completely free, had the space - why not shoot from that position? Even if its not a wonder strike, its not too hard to hit ontarget and hope for a bad clearance or corner? Hit and hope is like the opposite of Pep play. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
Football is not solvable 100% and even if Kompany hadnt scored a goal there I think watching the replay it was the best course of action? | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8716 Posts
bernardo silva was free on the right and he could either cross/1v1 or let leicester press and somehow utilise the space where sterling would stand. he could have passed to gundogan and likewise let leicester press and open some space around the box. gundogan also may have had a passing opportunity to aguero sterling was asking for the ball also because he probably saw a one-two opportunity with aguero who was between the lines or was gonna just lay it off to silva either running in behind or just waiting at the edge completely free. worst case scenario he just holds the ball or plays it square or backwards to someone and get leicester to press and open more space. silva and sane were looking for the lob to run into but youre not gonna see a pass like that from kompany and pep wouldnt have approved either imo. either one of the above would have been part of a build-up to a much higher probability play and is typically the kind of decision pep would want his players to make. the beauty of football is there isnt a right answer though. wonder goals like kompany's is what makes football so fun to watch, just that from a purely managerial perspective, you want to make the most of your possession and shots like kompany's are literally like 1/100. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On May 07 2019 17:16 sharkie wrote: What I dont get is why Pep said in his interview that he didnt want Kompany shoot from that position. Kompany was completely free, had the space - why not shoot from that position? Even if its not a wonder strike, its not too hard to hit ontarget and hope for a bad clearance or corner? Vincent Kompany before tonight: Last goal from outside the box - 2007 Last shot on target from outside the box - 2013 Number of Premier League shots from outside the box without scoring - 36 Can still hope for corner/block rebound obviously, but with those stats shooting certainly wasn't close to the most productive option | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
On May 07 2019 18:34 sneirac wrote: Can still hope for corner/block rebound obviously, but with those stats shooting certainly wasn't close to the most productive option I don't know about those stats. They dont really tell the whole picture do they? Because when was Kompany in that position and tried to shoot? Maybe he has never been so free before? I just dont like these "X should do Y in Z position". Because most good defending know these exact rules. City the last few weeks have been winning purely on individual brilliance. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Realistically shooting from that position, from someone who is not known for his long range shooting, most likely ends with a block/clearance or a ball going wide for a goal kick. Maybe a corner but most likely a reset of possession if you are lucky. This was one of those goals that happens once a career, he will try for as long as he is still playing to replicate it and it will never work again. And using a one in a million shot as an argument is kinda short sighted. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28699 Posts
But yea he could try that again from the same position another 15 times and I'd be surprised to see more than 1 goal. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
On May 07 2019 20:59 WillyWanker wrote: It wasn't exactly a clear shot either, it kinda bends around a Leicester player, could have easily been blocked. It's funny that the last time City won by more than 2 goals in the league was the 6-0 against Chelsea in February xD. They still dominate games but they don't seem to have the same energy to finish goal attempts as they did. I also think its the fear of conceding goals. When you go for more goals you also increase the chance of conceding goals. So after they score the 1-0 they go into defensive mode | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6972 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 07 2019 18:39 sharkie wrote: I don't know about those stats. They dont really tell the whole picture do they? Because when was Kompany in that position and tried to shoot? Maybe he has never been so free before? I just dont like these "X should do Y in Z position". Because most good defending know these exact rules. City the last few weeks have been winning purely on individual brilliance. Did you just miss the part where literally the next sentence after he said no I didnt want him to do that, but also followed up with... the fact that the players are the artists.. As a manager his job is to setup players or setup for the best option. But at the end of the day someone doing something special is not his job to manage, that is what players do. They play and sometimes they make magic happen. Thats why football is great. But the best options are the best options. Whether you choose a poorer one and succeed is down to the players, if there was no room for "X should do Y in Z position" then why do we even need managers? The whole world was saying "oh man dont shoot" .. because literally for 70 minutes Citys superstar attackers had been taking shot after shot and getting blocked or missing. But he took it, and he made it. Again, thats why Football is great. If he missed, it would have been just another notch in a meaningless statistic. and he wouldve been somewhat vilified for wasting a good position. When you take a bad option only the result can justify the means. The option itself remains bad. | ||
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