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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-05 20:34:25
April 05 2018 20:31 GMT
#4661
Ramsey goal: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/nwarrm
https://www.clippituser.tv/c/zbxzzw
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-05 20:43:31
April 05 2018 20:41 GMT
#4662
On April 06 2018 05:31 sneirac wrote:
Ramsey goal: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/nwarrm
https://www.clippituser.tv/c/zbxzzw


Clicked the first link.. wow what a goal.

Clicked the second link, heard Alexi Lalas. goal looks shit now.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 05 2018 21:28 GMT
#4663
That is just pretty...just pretty.

Come on you can do better than "just pretty" xD
Still some god awful goalkeeping the last two days! Why on earth is he running off his line like that LOL xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 05 2018 21:52 GMT
#4664
On April 06 2018 06:28 Pandemona wrote:
Still some god awful goalkeeping the last two days! Why on earth is he running off his line like that LOL xD

To shorten the angles? Seems the most normal (and correct) thing in the world to me.
Off-season = best season
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-05 23:25:18
April 05 2018 23:24 GMT
#4665
Didn't know Eurosport covered US games.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 06 2018 00:24 GMT
#4666
On April 06 2018 06:52 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 06:28 Pandemona wrote:
Still some god awful goalkeeping the last two days! Why on earth is he running off his line like that LOL xD

To shorten the angles? Seems the most normal (and correct) thing in the world to me.


Yeah lol.. I guess the goalkeeper shouldve just stayed on his line and let him bring the ball down and set himself from 10 yards out.

Wonder if Pande really knows how big a goal really is now... :thinking:
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 06 2018 03:32 GMT
#4667
The goal was heard around the world in the same way that US Baseball teams are declared World Champions.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 03:39:36
April 06 2018 03:38 GMT
#4668
Wow what a goal but did Ramsey really intend to lob the keeper with that?
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
April 06 2018 03:49 GMT
#4669
I'm going to put in a spoiler the part that speaks about true football, because it hits the ego of some. So only read if you want and can take facts.

+ Show Spoiler +
"4. The Messi and Ronaldo phenomenon was never expected by anyone. Never has there been any players in the history who could have such a significant domination in the game for such a long period of time. "

I guess you haven't heard about a certain player who's better than the entires Argentina and Portugal.


Regardless, what they do would be more praisable if they didn't get pampered with referees and cheating favouring them week after week. Year after year. And when that isn't enough to make them feel secure, then bring down any sort of opposition they can get. Let's say Neymar, who has had his career delaired by every sort of thing you can think of: random sickness out of nowhere, injured by the most unfair ways motivated by the disgusting scum of the world FIFA standard referees, which also gave him tons of unfair cards, and important goals wrongly disallowed at important times, media/political disturbance with false propaganda, organizations forbidding him from playing Copa America (otherwise they would forbid him from playing Olympics), among many other things that only TRUE FIGHTERS go through.

So, yea, go talk when you don't score 1 free-kick after 20+ attempts while your opposition scores more often and with less distant barriers than yours. It's a pity though that their domination is quite small outside their clubs against significant teams.

You took Neymar's PSG out with an offside dive to equalize at home. The only competition UEFA had to their ego was thrown out by their dirty shameless hands. That's not dominating for me, that's just posers / fake cretins.

And that's proven when their "Champions League" was actually outplayed by Kashima and a very destroyed Gremio team (very different than the one that won the continental), and was only rescued by their hero with a whistle hanging in his neck.


So the barca game was also rigged? Wow if I'm not surprised... I didn't watch it, I watched a bit of the game in the day prior until another Argentine (not Dybala) got yellow and thus was suspended from the 2nd leg, for a fair clean tackle he did on the ball, credits to the typical Madrid class of player diving casemiro. Oh I tried not to but I end up talking about what I tried to keep just in the spoiler... oh well.


On April 05 2018 05:32 Mafe wrote:
Could be three german goalkeepers in the semifinals, and Manuel Neuer might not be one of them :D

The real best player in 2014 world cup, with his very influential 'unpredictable' style.
^ fact to those who see unbiasedly, but unrewarded by adidas yellow ball

Not as unpredictable anymore after that though, and that has also perhaps really cost him his "dominance" as a goalkeeper, but still more reliable than most.
^ just my opinion, I don't really follow enough in this case
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 05:56:33
April 06 2018 05:54 GMT
#4670
I was promised fscts but coudnt tell the facts from the 9/11 truthing favela version... so confuse... much complicate...
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 06 2018 05:58 GMT
#4671
On April 06 2018 12:38 Dante08 wrote:
Wow what a goal but did Ramsey really intend to lob the keeper with that?


All you can realidtically hope for is to get on target and try to aim anywhere you dont see keeper. The rest of it is a bit of luck and a whole lot of skill
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 06 2018 06:21 GMT
#4672
On April 06 2018 06:28 Pandemona wrote:
That is just pretty...just pretty.

Come on you can do better than "just pretty" xD
Still some god awful goalkeeping the last two days! Why on earth is he running off his line like that LOL xD

Imo the shot he made is harder than the slower version where he hits it lower, the keeper is defending the easier shot for the striker to take.
Freeeeeeedom
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 06 2018 07:22 GMT
#4673
On April 06 2018 14:58 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 12:38 Dante08 wrote:
Wow what a goal but did Ramsey really intend to lob the keeper with that?


All you can realidtically hope for is to get on target and try to aim anywhere you dont see keeper. The rest of it is a bit of luck and a whole lot of skill

Did someone swap "a", "s" and "d" around on your keyboard?

To me the goal is amazing more on the build-up rather than the finish.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 06 2018 07:43 GMT
#4674
On April 06 2018 14:58 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 12:38 Dante08 wrote:
Wow what a goal but did Ramsey really intend to lob the keeper with that?


All you can realidtically hope for is to get on target and try to aim anywhere you dont see keeper. The rest of it is a bit of luck and a whole lot of skill

Although I would not say it is so much looking where the keeper is but rather anticipating that he will leave the line and try to close you down. Which is why he assumes he doesnt have the time to take the ball down and rather takes it volley.

Of course a volley lob is extremely hard (and requires some luck) and is not something a keeper could bet on.

Off-season = best season
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 06 2018 07:45 GMT
#4675
On April 06 2018 09:24 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 06:52 Redox wrote:
On April 06 2018 06:28 Pandemona wrote:
Still some god awful goalkeeping the last two days! Why on earth is he running off his line like that LOL xD

To shorten the angles? Seems the most normal (and correct) thing in the world to me.


Yeah lol.. I guess the goalkeeper shouldve just stayed on his line and let him bring the ball down and set himself from 10 yards out.

Wonder if Pande really knows how big a goal really is now... :thinking:

Keeper can get beat multiple ways if he comes off his line there. Can get beat with a lob, through his legs, to the right, or the left all minimal power/placement needed. The ball is also in the air, it is chest height, if he tries to bring that down he needs perfect control and still then it takes 2-3 seconds, he is never going to do that because he is Ramsey. Also i highly doubt messi would even bring that down, the first time flick shot is a 90% probability thus you stay on your line. He stays on his line and he catches the simplest of shots in the air. Instead he is made to look a fool for predicting that Ramsey is going to control a ball chest height with pace on it inside the penalty area for whatever reason. This for me is nearly as bad as Lloris' failure for Spurs at the weekend. Akinfeev is also a bad keeper period so xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 08:44:59
April 06 2018 08:44 GMT
#4676
On April 06 2018 16:45 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 09:24 Rebs wrote:
On April 06 2018 06:52 Redox wrote:
On April 06 2018 06:28 Pandemona wrote:
Still some god awful goalkeeping the last two days! Why on earth is he running off his line like that LOL xD

To shorten the angles? Seems the most normal (and correct) thing in the world to me.


Yeah lol.. I guess the goalkeeper shouldve just stayed on his line and let him bring the ball down and set himself from 10 yards out.

Wonder if Pande really knows how big a goal really is now... :thinking:

Keeper can get beat multiple ways if he comes off his line there. Can get beat with a lob, through his legs, to the right, or the left all minimal power/placement needed. The ball is also in the air, it is chest height, if he tries to bring that down he needs perfect control and still then it takes 2-3 seconds, he is never going to do that because he is Ramsey. Also i highly doubt messi would even bring that down, the first time flick shot is a 90% probability thus you stay on your line. He stays on his line and he catches the simplest of shots in the air. Instead he is made to look a fool for predicting that Ramsey is going to control a ball chest height with pace on it inside the penalty area for whatever reason. This for me is nearly as bad as Lloris' failure for Spurs at the weekend. Akinfeev is also a bad keeper period so xD

Looking at Ramsey's position and how that ball came in, I think expecting him to try to control it is the right call. Now I don't know Ramsey, but the only other forward I can think of who'd try a weird jump flick shot like that is Zlatan. Most, including Messi, would bring it down, or try a really low header. I don't think it's fair to blame the keeper for not expecting a weird trick shot like that.

Oh, and when you say a 90% probability on a bizarre flick shot like that, you know you're talking out of your ass :p
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 06 2018 08:51 GMT
#4677
Bizzare flick? That is the only way to shoot or whatever. Messi 100% does exactly same thing Ramsey does but of course better cuz its Messi....The header again the other thing you say = keeper needs to stay on his line. Where the ball is is chest height, you either low header or do what Ramsey did and do that flick shit. No way do you control a ball with that much pace on the ball inside the box thinking your going to get god like control and have the time to be able to do anything.

Controllign that ball = defenders are back onto him really fast. I don't get how you can say anything other than a first time flick shot / low header is the probability there.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 09:52:40
April 06 2018 09:49 GMT
#4678
If he does not try to control the ball and volleys it instead you still want to close him down and reduce the angles.

Off-season = best season
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2739 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 13:40:05
April 06 2018 13:38 GMT
#4679
About the CL draw, most Barça and Madrid fans want each other in semifinal for avoiding a possible clásico final.

As a barça fan, we dont want Madrid in one leg final.They have won all CL finals in the current format. Two legs sounds easier.

And many Madrid fans are afraid of giving Barcelona a possible treble in the final.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 06 2018 14:05 GMT
#4680
On April 06 2018 18:49 Redox wrote:
If he does not try to control the ball and volleys it instead you still want to close him down and reduce the angles.


Again if he comes out for the volley, he opens up through the legs, any right or left by half a yard or the lob. Staying on his line means the volley needs to be very good to beat the keeper via right or left. Anything down his throat is easy pickings. Would love to ask this to a pro keeper as i would be interested in results as quite a few of you here think that the keeper did the right thing where in my world he did not. (I asked others to in my friends and they said shit keeping to but again might be English thing xd )
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