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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 06 2018 15:13 GMT
#4681
It's over.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 15:34:03
April 06 2018 15:16 GMT
#4682
On April 06 2018 16:45 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 09:24 Rebs wrote:
On April 06 2018 06:52 Redox wrote:
On April 06 2018 06:28 Pandemona wrote:
Still some god awful goalkeeping the last two days! Why on earth is he running off his line like that LOL xD

To shorten the angles? Seems the most normal (and correct) thing in the world to me.


Yeah lol.. I guess the goalkeeper shouldve just stayed on his line and let him bring the ball down and set himself from 10 yards out.

Wonder if Pande really knows how big a goal really is now... :thinking:

Keeper can get beat multiple ways if he comes off his line there. Can get beat with a lob, through his legs, to the right, or the left all minimal power/placement needed. The ball is also in the air, it is chest height, if he tries to bring that down he needs perfect control and still then it takes 2-3 seconds, he is never going to do that because he is Ramsey. Also i highly doubt messi would even bring that down, the first time flick shot is a 90% probability thus you stay on your line. He stays on his line and he catches the simplest of shots in the air. Instead he is made to look a fool for predicting that Ramsey is going to control a ball chest height with pace on it inside the penalty area for whatever reason. This for me is nearly as bad as Lloris' failure for Spurs at the weekend. Akinfeev is also a bad keeper period so xD



Man, what planet are you from... all of those things can happen when hes on his line aswell except. the getting lobbed bit and with the difficulty level reduced 10 fold.

Again if you think defending such broad angles on your line against a guy receiving the ball 10 yards out + Show Spoiler +
(even if Ramsey was lying on the floor did a barrel roll and got up to control the ball it would still be easier for him to finish if the keeper doesn't leave his line)
is the smarter thing to do then every coaching manual in the history of the goalkeeping universe has just been disproved by your great mind.

You cant just plug in a complete shit unfounded assumption that the defenders wouldve have recovered in that situation. The keeper cant count on that.

Coming off the line is not always correct. Coming off his line in this situation was 100 percent the correct thing to do.


On April 06 2018 17:51 Pandemona wrote:
Bizzare flick? That is the only way to shoot or whatever. Messi 100% does exactly same thing Ramsey does but of course better cuz its Messi....The header again the other thing you say = keeper needs to stay on his line. Where the ball is is chest height, you either low header or do what Ramsey did and do that flick shit. No way do you control a ball with that much pace on the ball inside the box thinking your going to get god like control and have the time to be able to do anything.

Controllign that ball = defenders are back onto him really fast. I don't get how you can say anything other than a first time flick shot / low header is the probability there.



On April 06 2018 18:49 Redox wrote:
If he does not try to control the ball and volleys it instead you still want to close him down and reduce the angles.




What he said.. SMH.. Pande fail at basic goal keeping mechanics..

You are genuinely suggesting that at this instance, the keeper sit on his line and let Ramsey take the touch and finish ??

[image loading]


On April 06 2018 16:22 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 14:58 Rebs wrote:
On April 06 2018 12:38 Dante08 wrote:
Wow what a goal but did Ramsey really intend to lob the keeper with that?


All you can realidtically hope for is to get on target and try to aim anywhere you dont see keeper. The rest of it is a bit of luck and a whole lot of skill

Did someone swap "a", "s" and "d" around on your keyboard?

To me the goal is amazing more on the build-up rather than the finish.


I fat finger on my phone all the time,
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 06 2018 15:48 GMT
#4683
What touch can Ramsey take in that specific positioning you link? The touch if he takes one would have to be unbelievable to control that near him without the left back being able to come back into the game. Again not even Messi could do that.

I said you don't get nutmegged by a volley like that, the only way Ramsey scores a goal is if keeper comes off his line in this instance which is fact. If he stayed on his line he catches it in the air. If not the volley or sidefoot flick he did would have had to somehow be hit into the far corner which is seeminly impossible.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 16:28:10
April 06 2018 16:01 GMT
#4684
On April 07 2018 00:48 Pandemona wrote:
What touch can Ramsey take in that specific positioning you link? The touch if he takes one would have to be unbelievable to control that near him without the left back being able to come back into the game. Again not even Messi could do that.

I said you don't get nutmegged by a volley like that, the only way Ramsey scores a goal is if keeper comes off his line in this instance which is fact. If he stayed on his line he catches it in the air. If not the volley or sidefoot flick he did would have had to somehow be hit into the far corner which is seeminly impossible.


Incorrect, the only way Ramsey doesnt score with that particular volley is if the keeper stays on his line.

But the keeper doesnt know he is going to do that....

if you put it like that every time someone hits the pen down the middle its the keepers fault, all he had to do was stay in place the ball would have just hit him.

Everytime a keeper gets nutmegged all he had to do was keep his legs closed.

Every time the ball beats the keeper all he had to do was stop the ball.... GENIUS ! BRB

Regarding the image, I guess I gave you too much credit in terms of memory, and all I was looking to do was show the distance..

Here is the ball coming to him.. even a muppet can bring the ball down clean in a split second and finish if the keeper just sits on his line.. + Show Spoiler +
and I dont know what goals look like where you see them but this isnt a six a side goal. Finishing that with a keeper stuck on his line is joke easy.

Every wondered why goal keepers mysteriously creep forward of their lines against penalty takers? I wonder why they do that, so stupid if they just stayed on the line it would be impossibly difficult to finish, in Pandeland anyway


the only muppet that cant would be classified as an English player at the World Cup.

[image loading]
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 17:02:54
April 06 2018 16:56 GMT
#4685
On April 06 2018 14:54 Rebs wrote:
I was promised fscts but coudnt tell the facts from the 9/11 truthing favela version... so confuse... much complicate...

Favella is worth what you have in the bank. But let me guess, your post wasnt moderated? And if I answer in the same tone I get censored. Well I'd assume no one cares about what cricket says.

9/11 truthing? Is this some new sort of bait? Oh well, enjoy the fixed games.

User was temp banned for this post.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 06 2018 17:13 GMT
#4686
On April 07 2018 01:01 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 00:48 Pandemona wrote:
What touch can Ramsey take in that specific positioning you link? The touch if he takes one would have to be unbelievable to control that near him without the left back being able to come back into the game. Again not even Messi could do that.

I said you don't get nutmegged by a volley like that, the only way Ramsey scores a goal is if keeper comes off his line in this instance which is fact. If he stayed on his line he catches it in the air. If not the volley or sidefoot flick he did would have had to somehow be hit into the far corner which is seeminly impossible.


Incorrect, the only way Ramsey doesnt score with that particular volley is if the keeper stays on his line.

But the keeper doesnt know he is going to do that....

if you put it like that every time someone hits the pen down the middle its the keepers fault, all he had to do was stay in place the ball would have just hit him.

Everytime a keeper gets nutmegged all he had to do was keep his legs closed.

Every time the ball beats the keeper all he had to do was stop the ball.... GENIUS ! BRB

Regarding the image, I guess I gave you too much credit in terms of memory, and all I was looking to do was show the distance..

Here is the ball coming to him.. even a muppet can bring the ball down clean in a split second and finish if the keeper just sits on his line.. + Show Spoiler +
and I dont know what goals look like where you see them but this isnt a six a side goal. Finishing that with a keeper stuck on his line is joke easy.

Every wondered why goal keepers mysteriously creep forward of their lines against penalty takers? I wonder why they do that, so stupid if they just stayed on the line it would be impossibly difficult to finish, in Pandeland anyway


the only muppet that cant would be classified as an English player at the World Cup.

[image loading]


The flick the striker hit was easily the lowest percentage finish, getting a good lob here is incredibly lucky. If he's international quality he can head this near or farside (low usually), flick it near, open his hips for a redirect farside, or do a 2-touch that can go near or farside. In fact, I'd actually guess the most likely thing for this guy to do is try and do a quick control and shoot (and then get into his head and be too slow and fuck it up). But the keep has to pressure him otherwise he can get off a pretty good shot even being clumsy with the defender collapsing. Plus if the defender successfully collapses he has 2 wide open teammates he can tee up 12-18 yards from the goal.
Freeeeeeedom
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 18:30:15
April 06 2018 18:28 GMT
#4687
More fun news from Portugal after yesterday's 2-0 Sporting defeat to Atletico Madrid. Timeline so far:
1. Last night Sporting's president, Bruno de Carvalho, made a post on social media criticizing his players, naming his two CBs and other players who missed key chances.
2. Bruno de Carvalho then decides to call in directly to late night sports talkshows denying he was actually criticizing players, even though he clearly was.
3. Today news comes out that Sporting's players refused to train in the morning, upset with the President's post.
4. Sporting's communication department denies the news that the players refused to train, claiming 'fake news'.
5. During the day most of the team posted on instagram that the moment called for unity and denouncing the president's singling out of players in his criticism.
6. Just now, Bruno de Carvalho decided to suspend every player that made the post, calling the players 'spoiled brats who can't take criticism and don't respect anyone', apparently unaware of the irony.

The players are Rui Patrício, William Carvalho, Bruno Fernandes, Battaglia, Piccini, Palhinha, Coates, Acuña, Gelson Martins, Podence, Bruno César, Montero, Bryan Ruiz, Rúben Ribeiro, Doumbia, Fábio Coentrão and Rafael Leão. Basically the entire team except Bas Dost who doesn't seem to have social media accounts.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28866 Posts
April 06 2018 19:01 GMT
#4688
awesome.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2739 Posts
April 06 2018 20:03 GMT
#4689
On April 07 2018 03:28 warding wrote:
More fun news from Portugal after yesterday's 2-0 Sporting defeat to Atletico Madrid. Timeline so far:
1. Last night Sporting's president, Bruno de Carvalho, made a post on social media criticizing his players, naming his two CBs and other players who missed key chances.
2. Bruno de Carvalho then decides to call in directly to late night sports talkshows denying he was actually criticizing players, even though he clearly was.
3. Today news comes out that Sporting's players refused to train in the morning, upset with the President's post.
4. Sporting's communication department denies the news that the players refused to train, claiming 'fake news'.
5. During the day most of the team posted on instagram that the moment called for unity and denouncing the president's singling out of players in his criticism.
6. Just now, Bruno de Carvalho decided to suspend every player that made the post, calling the players 'spoiled brats who can't take criticism and don't respect anyone', apparently unaware of the irony.

The players are Rui Patrício, William Carvalho, Bruno Fernandes, Battaglia, Piccini, Palhinha, Coates, Acuña, Gelson Martins, Podence, Bruno César, Montero, Bryan Ruiz, Rúben Ribeiro, Doumbia, Fábio Coentrão and Rafael Leão. Basically the entire team except Bas Dost who doesn't seem to have social media accounts.


wow, that is next level drama.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 20:14:07
April 06 2018 20:12 GMT
#4690
On April 07 2018 05:03 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 03:28 warding wrote:
More fun news from Portugal after yesterday's 2-0 Sporting defeat to Atletico Madrid. Timeline so far:
1. Last night Sporting's president, Bruno de Carvalho, made a post on social media criticizing his players, naming his two CBs and other players who missed key chances.
2. Bruno de Carvalho then decides to call in directly to late night sports talkshows denying he was actually criticizing players, even though he clearly was.
3. Today news comes out that Sporting's players refused to train in the morning, upset with the President's post.
4. Sporting's communication department denies the news that the players refused to train, claiming 'fake news'.
5. During the day most of the team posted on instagram that the moment called for unity and denouncing the president's singling out of players in his criticism.
6. Just now, Bruno de Carvalho decided to suspend every player that made the post, calling the players 'spoiled brats who can't take criticism and don't respect anyone', apparently unaware of the irony.

The players are Rui Patrício, William Carvalho, Bruno Fernandes, Battaglia, Piccini, Palhinha, Coates, Acuña, Gelson Martins, Podence, Bruno César, Montero, Bryan Ruiz, Rúben Ribeiro, Doumbia, Fábio Coentrão and Rafael Leão. Basically the entire team except Bas Dost who doesn't seem to have social media accounts.


wow, that is next level drama.


I read his post at lunch, Ive stopped working and been googling articles and videos about this while munching on an actual bag of potato chips since


One article called the guy the "Donald Trump of Football"

Work be damned.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 06 2018 20:15 GMT
#4691
Lol wtf? Who's going to play in that case?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 20:29:21
April 06 2018 20:28 GMT
#4692
On April 07 2018 05:15 Skynx wrote:
Lol wtf? Who's going to play in that case?

Some say the players from the B team will. I still wouldn't rule out a backing down from Sporting's president, although the guy is seriously deranged. This is the guy who fired Marco Silva alleging just cause because the manager didn't wear the official sporting suit in one game.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
April 07 2018 17:16 GMT
#4693
what an absolutely embarrassing first half. getting absolutely dominated. pep showing why rigid football doesnt work against good players
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
April 07 2018 17:18 GMT
#4694
0 shots first half lol time to sleep
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
April 07 2018 17:42 GMT
#4695
PAUL FUCKING POGBAAAAAAA
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 07 2018 17:42 GMT
#4696
This is ridiculous. How is this game 2-2? It should be 5-0 already.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 07 2018 17:45 GMT
#4697
P GOD!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
April 07 2018 17:56 GMT
#4698
SMALLINGGGGGGGGGG
LETS FKIN GOOOO
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 17:58:19
April 07 2018 17:57 GMT
#4699
Wow so easy for Yanited, City falling apart from 2 up! Beautiful set piece but aided by an awful defensive line.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 17:59:44
April 07 2018 17:58 GMT
#4700
Ok wow I did not expect that after the first half performance. Also City should have been like 5-0 up Sterling missed a couple of glorious chances.
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