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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18378 Posts
March 29 2018 09:04 GMT
#4541
On March 29 2018 11:26 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 09:58 haitike wrote:
¿El tráfico? ¿Why? xDD


LA traffic.

Then they should call it "LA Trafica" Spelling error or not :p

But regardless, that's a horrifically bad name for a match you want to build up hype for. Get ready for the greatest match of the season, the LA derby, the one and only "el tráfico"! Rofl
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 29 2018 15:00 GMT
#4542
Wow what a punishment /s

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
March 29 2018 15:12 GMT
#4543
On March 29 2018 02:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
How is the French media, and especially the players reacting to the racial abuse they received from Russian fans?


They make a pretty big deal about it. Lilian Thuram, ex-world champion in 98, said that it'll only stop when FIFA decides to stop a game when it happens.
A lot of articles about how it doesn't look good for the world cup etc..
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-29 15:47:02
March 29 2018 15:45 GMT
#4544
On March 30 2018 00:12 Yosheekee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 02:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
How is the French media, and especially the players reacting to the racial abuse they received from Russian fans?


They make a pretty big deal about it. Lilian Thuram, ex-world champion in 98, said that it'll only stop when FIFA decides to stop a game when it happens.
A lot of articles about how it doesn't look good for the world cup etc..


I dont think it will stop from simply stopping a game not just the one game anyway.

I think retroactive punishment that actually hurts fans in general could work. The obvious collateral are the fans who dont do anything but thats the only way to pariah this behavior.

things that are so ingrained they are normalized need bigger shocks to the system for it any meaningful change to take effect in my opinion.

Pretty sure the referee has liberty under the rules to stop games when it happens. Its just a very difficult and extremely brave decision to make, with literally no margin for error.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 29 2018 16:17 GMT
#4545
so when they punish the club because of fan racism, how do they tell that the fan is actually a fan of the club? is it just where they are sitting? or do they sift through their facebook and shit?

not sure what stopping a game is supposed to do, unless ur saying that the entire (or a very large part) stadium is being racist
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-29 16:30:49
March 29 2018 16:25 GMT
#4546
On March 30 2018 01:17 zev318 wrote:
so when they punish the club because of fan racism, how do they tell that the fan is actually a fan of the club? is it just where they are sitting? or do they sift through their facebook and shit?

not sure what stopping a game is supposed to do, unless ur saying that the entire (or a very large part) stadium is being racist


I didnt say anything about clubs..although that is a reasonable thing to discuss als. With international games its pretty easy to tell

Again the point is to pariah the behavior regardless of whose fans are doing it. Its not a complicated concept to understand.

On March 29 2018 11:11 Redox wrote:
I feel sorry for US soccer fans that have to listen Alexi Lalas. Heard him commentate a few times and wanted to punch him every time. Honestly American commentators in general seem to be pretty bad.


Hes an alum from my Uni, fits the stereotype of douche Jock to a T. Hes also got a chronic case of resting douche face. Did I mention hes a douche?
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 29 2018 16:44 GMT
#4547
On March 30 2018 01:25 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 01:17 zev318 wrote:
so when they punish the club because of fan racism, how do they tell that the fan is actually a fan of the club? is it just where they are sitting? or do they sift through their facebook and shit?

not sure what stopping a game is supposed to do, unless ur saying that the entire (or a very large part) stadium is being racist


I didnt say anything about clubs..although that is a reasonable thing to discuss als. With international games its pretty easy to tell

Again the point is to pariah the behavior regardless of whose fans are doing it. Its not a complicated concept to understand.

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 11:11 Redox wrote:
I feel sorry for US soccer fans that have to listen Alexi Lalas. Heard him commentate a few times and wanted to punch him every time. Honestly American commentators in general seem to be pretty bad.


Hes an alum from my Uni, fits the stereotype of douche Jock to a T. Hes also got a chronic case of resting douche face. Did I mention hes a douche?


im just using clubs as my example, cause there's been examples of leagues making clubs play in empty stadiums due to fan racism, so im just wondering if anyone knew how they determine that the fan is from that club.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-29 17:50:48
March 29 2018 17:41 GMT
#4548
On March 30 2018 01:44 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 01:25 Rebs wrote:
On March 30 2018 01:17 zev318 wrote:
so when they punish the club because of fan racism, how do they tell that the fan is actually a fan of the club? is it just where they are sitting? or do they sift through their facebook and shit?

not sure what stopping a game is supposed to do, unless ur saying that the entire (or a very large part) stadium is being racist


I didnt say anything about clubs..although that is a reasonable thing to discuss als. With international games its pretty easy to tell

Again the point is to pariah the behavior regardless of whose fans are doing it. Its not a complicated concept to understand.

On March 29 2018 11:11 Redox wrote:
I feel sorry for US soccer fans that have to listen Alexi Lalas. Heard him commentate a few times and wanted to punch him every time. Honestly American commentators in general seem to be pretty bad.


Hes an alum from my Uni, fits the stereotype of douche Jock to a T. Hes also got a chronic case of resting douche face. Did I mention hes a douche?


im just using clubs as my example, cause there's been examples of leagues making clubs play in empty stadiums due to fan racism, so im just wondering if anyone knew how they determine that the fan is from that club.


Investigating these sorts of things is not as complicated an exercise as you are imagining. Provided there is will and intent to do so.

Theres camera, security, other staff, witnesses. Fan heckling and abuse is not limited to football and lots of sports are able to sanction fans / teams for fan misbehavior. And sure if part of that investigation involves looking up that guy on facebook... thats not a particularly difficult thing to do. Anyone with a website and a 100 dollar a month subscription to a SAAS platform that offers those sorts of analytics can gather digital footprints way more complicated than that.

That having been said the empty stadium incidents you are referring to rarely occur because of isolated hecklers. Its usually larger scale coordinated behavior such that the investigation bit is merely a formality or due process on open and shut cases of fan misbehavior
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-29 18:01:55
March 29 2018 17:58 GMT
#4549
Mateu Lahoz as a world cup ref. Interesting
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 30 2018 17:42 GMT
#4550
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
March 31 2018 18:54 GMT
#4551
Bayern going to win CL with Heynkes again, won't they? heh
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 31 2018 19:28 GMT
#4552
Naa they aren't that good, the win today just proves how Dortmund has fallen from grace super hard.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28869 Posts
March 31 2018 19:36 GMT
#4553
bayern can't be discounted. lineup today; Rafinha Boateng Hummels Alaba Javi Martínez Müller James Robben Lewandowski Ribéry. That's super solid. I haven't seen much of ribery lately tbh and he seemed a bit over the top last time I did - but this is a lineup with a crazy good peak level, and basically no weak spots.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
March 31 2018 20:34 GMT
#4554
well not really surprising when you play with Schürrle and Götze. Both players who don't work hard but think of themselves as world stars
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
March 31 2018 21:01 GMT
#4555
Meanwhile Zlatan doing Zlatan things stateside..
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14159 Posts
March 31 2018 21:07 GMT
#4556
On April 01 2018 06:01 Rebs wrote:
Meanwhile Zlatan doing Zlatan things stateside..

That was just insane. I wonder if he has a lot more in the tank then people realize.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
March 31 2018 21:14 GMT
#4557
zlatan 1: https://streamable.com/wp3oo
and 2: https://streamable.com/x0v0j
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 31 2018 21:28 GMT
#4558
Zlatan already MLS GOAT
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-31 21:40:39
March 31 2018 21:37 GMT
#4559
On April 01 2018 06:07 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2018 06:01 Rebs wrote:
Meanwhile Zlatan doing Zlatan things stateside..

That was just insane. I wonder if he has a lot more in the tank then people realize.


I am not sure why anyone thinks that way, I would mostly put it down to Mou being a terrible manager, but that triggers people.

MLS is tailormade for Zlatan, hes spent his entire career (particularly in Italy and France) being "the man" having the team feed him as much as they could regardless of how and where and let him do his thing.

Its a memed thing but the whole "welcome to Zlatan" think is entirely representative of what it means to have Zlatan in your team if its going to be successful.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28869 Posts
March 31 2018 21:44 GMT
#4560
comes on at 1-3 after 71 minutes, team wins 4-3 after he scores 2 goals, one completely out of nowhere. quite the debut.

zlatan is the god of timing those volley/semi volley long shots.none better at that.
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