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On August 17 2016 09:18 Rookie6 wrote: The animosity towards France grew in the last day over here, so I fear this might not be that uncommon until the end of the Olympics. why is that? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22584 Posts
A french athlete got upset that the Brazilian crowd was booing him and as shown when it was discussed earlier in this thread there are plenty of Brazilians who cant accept that booing is considered disrespectful in the rest of the world. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 17 2016 18:28 Gorsameth wrote: A french athlete got upset that the Brazilian crowd was booing him and as shown when it was discussed earlier in this thread there are plenty of Brazilians who cant accept that booing is considered disrespectful in the rest of the world. I have the feeling France vs Brazil in handball today is gonna be hot | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
On August 17 2016 18:28 Gorsameth wrote: A french athlete got upset that the Brazilian crowd was booing him and as shown when it was discussed earlier in this thread there are plenty of Brazilians who cant accept that booing is considered disrespectful in the rest of the world. Forgot to mention that he compared himself to Jesse Owens and Brazil to nazi Germany. | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On August 17 2016 19:15 Rookie6 wrote: Forgot to mention that he compared himself to Jesse Owens and Brazil to nazi Germany. He says he received the same treatment, not that he was like him or that Brasil was Nazis Germany. You and your press like deforming claims aren't you? | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
Still it's regrettable to see its effects on other athletes like the french boxer who lost against last night (against a brazilian) | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 17 2016 19:15 Rookie6 wrote: Forgot to mention that he compared himself to Jesse Owens and Brazil to nazi Germany. No. He said La dernière fois qu'on a vu ça, c'est quand Jesse Owens a couru en 1936. C'est juste incroyable, ça fait chier d'avoir un public de merde comme ça sur des JO. Which I'd translate as The last time we saw this was when Jesse Owens ran in 1936. It's just incredible, it sucks to have such shitty fans like that at the Olympics. He's not comparing Brazil to Nazi Germany, he's saying that the amount of booing he got was similar to Owens' in 1936. It's perhaps not a fair comparison (I have no idea, I wasn't around back then), but it's not "ur durr Brazil is Nazis omg" as some Brazilians make it out to be. It's incredible that social pressure made him apologize for this, while he really didn't say anything that was terribly shocking. | ||
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
On August 17 2016 19:20 stilt wrote: He says he received the same treatment, not that he was like him or that Brasil was Nazis Germany. You and your press like deforming claims aren't you? Yeah, and that's not comparing... Owens received that because of racism, which has nothing to do with the reason the brazilians were booing, which was to make foreign athlets nervous. You can think whathever you like about booing (I'm not a fan of it by the way), but he was very unfortunate in his declaration. | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4121 Posts
On August 17 2016 19:30 OtherWorld wrote: No. He said Which I'd translate as He's not comparing Brazil to Nazi Germany, he's saying that the amount of booing he got was similar to Owens' in 1936. It's perhaps not a fair comparison (I have no idea, I wasn't around back then), but it's not "ur durr Brazil is Nazis omg" as some Brazilians make it out to be. It's incredible that social pressure made him apologize for this, while he really didn't say anything that was terribly shocking. non-brazilian source: http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/37104031 so what i read: 1. For most of us such behavior of the fans is indeed shocking and inappropriate 2. Thomas Bach and IOC of course finds this disturbing 3. Many of the Brazilians do feel this was not nice: Rio 2016 chief spokesman Mario Andrada said: "As citizens of Brazil and as sports fans, we don't think booing is the right attitude, even when you are in a one-to-one competition and a young Brazilian has the chance to beat the world champion. "We plan to intensify our dialogue with Brazilian fans through social networks to make sure that we behave as fans in a proper and elegant manner, without losing the passion for sport." but i will ask again: If you live in Brazil and for you this was a norm since when you were a kid and you don't travel around the globe to learn other behavior, how do you learn except from cases like that? Its so easy to judge and feel superior by just having an easy access to any sports event there is. Calling brazilian culture a banana culture and saying no sports event should have happened in Rio due to fans not knowing social etiquette is really strange :D | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
Brazil should never have had these Olympics for multiple other reasons (corruption, shit infrastructure, poverty, the list goes on) - the booing is pretty much a non-argument when making the case for why giving Brazil the Olympic Games was a bad idea. EDIT: I think this topic has been pretty much exhausted though, so I'll stick with cheering from now on. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
In many of those sports is pretty normal to "boo" the other team to make them nervous (as you might know btw), but is not on gymnastics, and it was incredibly disrespectful... Problem is, you are playing against culture, and thats not a battle you are going to win, not making excuses for them, but it is what it is... I really cant remember it happening elsewhere at the olympics too (when the home guy plays), which makes matter SLIGHTLY worse. Ive seen them regularly since Sidney 2000 | ||
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
I can accept and I agree with arguments that Brazil shouldn´t be the host because of violance and such, as I would be against if they decided to host any international event in France after everything that keeps happening there. But it really bothers me when we have people calling the fans "shitty" and our culture not deserving of the Olympics, saying our press like deforming claims when even Le Monde admitted Lavillenie´s coach didn´t really say that about candomble, using expressions like "banana culture" and saying we shouldn´t host the Olympics because of booing when we keep having cases of europeans crowds throwing bananas at players during football matches (which is far worse than booing). A lot of european people (not the majority of them of course) keeps acting like they are above other people, their crowds are an exemple for the whole world and just because they were disrespected they have the right to disrespect a whole country and culture. We shouldn´t use what I said as an argument to accept the behaviour of the brazilian crowd, which is inexcusable, but try to take your europeans goggles off and start acting like you think you do, because I´m seeing condemnable attitudes from both sides. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On August 17 2016 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: ^I agree that football fans are terrible in every single country (except Iceland, I guess?). Still doesn't mean Lavillenie's comparison is inaccurate, or that he should be booed for saying that. Japanese fans are the best in the world. We even clean up stadiums of other countries | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
On August 17 2016 22:34 sharkie wrote: Japanese fans are the best in the world. We even clean up stadiums of other countries Definitely looking forward to Tokyo. It's a bit of an unknown quantity for me, because Japan seems quite cut off from the rest of the world. | ||
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