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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
September 15 2015 09:06 GMT
#1401
How the hell is your bench at 85kg with those DL/squat numbers?? I mean everyone has a weak lift I suppose but that just seem way out of reasonable range.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 11:59:39
September 15 2015 11:55 GMT
#1402
If you are planning to bench 85kg do 75-80-85, the rest seems fine.

Nice Squat.
It's odd you deadlift the same as you squat.
Work on your bench, it sucks.

Also, wtf

mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 13:18:03
September 15 2015 13:16 GMT
#1403
On September 15 2015 18:06 zatic wrote:
How the hell is your bench at 85kg with those DL/squat numbers?? I mean everyone has a weak lift I suppose but that just seem way out of reasonable range.

I actually double checked my mental math because yeah this seems to be an area you could pick up a few kg easily. Awesome progress though!

Also, I'm glad we had the squat conversation. Now I won't be paranoid about my knees coming in a bit coming out of the hole as long as my ankle/knee isn't collapsing.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
September 15 2015 15:34 GMT
#1404
On September 15 2015 18:06 zatic wrote:
How the hell is your bench at 85kg with those DL/squat numbers?? I mean everyone has a weak lift I suppose but that just seem way out of reasonable range.


Mine's just as bad lol. If I'm healthy enough to bench for a few months it's probably around 120-130 with 220+ on squat and dl :p
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
September 16 2015 03:42 GMT
#1405
When I started lifting I couldn't really bench because I had a prior shoulder injury, and I always enjoyed squatting more than pulling, I've gone through months where I did not touch the deadlift. Kinda regret it now though.

I also find it easier to get hyped up for a squat than for any of the other lifts, so that may be another reason.
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-18 04:24:20
September 18 2015 04:10 GMT
#1406
bought squid for the first time, has great macros apparently.

I've been eating my first meal at around 4-5pm everyday and fasting for 16 hours for the past week. Not sure if it's the food I'm eating but even though I'm losing weight overall, I'm retaining more fat in my gut compared to when I ate normally. I know it could be a lot of factors. Fasting is if anything, really convenient, and not too hard mentally after a while. Been lifting a lot on an empty stomach too and haven't noticed any difference.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
September 18 2015 04:32 GMT
#1407
285 squat for 3x3 tonight. Final rep got a bit grindy because my weight came forward, but I still managed just fine. I think I'm likely capable of a 315 single right now, but I'm not going to try it because the program is working and I'm not going to screw with it. Also pulled a 355 deadlift triple. I pulled 355 for basically 3 quick singles (~30 seconds to breathe and reset between them)on tuesday, but with some ugly back rounding. Went up beautifully today, but 365 was not budging. I think my setup was off - hips too high, knees too far forward. My squat is rapidly catching up to my DL, but that's good. My squat has always been relatively weak.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 18 2015 05:00 GMT
#1408
How do you know you are retaining more fat in your gut?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 18 2015 05:02 GMT
#1409
mirror and feel
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 18 2015 05:04 GMT
#1410
Do you mean gut or do you mean subcutaneous fat over your abs? Are you saying that you haven't noticed a change despite losing weight or that it's actually getting worse?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
September 18 2015 05:11 GMT
#1411
Is a week really even enough time to be seeing noticeable changes to that area anyway? I know salt & carb & water intake can, for me, make a bigger swing from day to day than gaining or losing 10 lbs of actual bodyweight would.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-18 05:14:53
September 18 2015 05:13 GMT
#1412
What's the difference between gut and subcutaneous fat over abs?

I gained about 5lbs or so before I started fasting from eating a lot and cuz I was stalling in the gym. I probably got rid of most of it over close to two weeks. I look slimmer, but I was around the same weight or a bit lighter than now over the summer, and my waist and lower stomach had less fat and my abs were slightly clearer, I had less fat around my lower pecs too.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 18 2015 05:22 GMT
#1413
Could be your diet. Could be that you preferentially lose fat from those other areas first, especially after quickly gaining lbs of fat. Could be because you had a tan earlier. Hard to tell. I don't think it's the fasting though.

Gut fat is hard and makes your stomach protrude like a beer belly. You can't pinch it with your skin over your muscles:
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Subcutaneous fat over your stomach region is like subcutaneous fat everywhere, and lies underneath the skin. It is for the most part pinchable, if you aren't especially obese:

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The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 18 2015 05:24 GMT
#1414
I only have subcutaneous fat then, is there special anything I can do about it besides calories and cutting down sugar?
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-18 05:34:26
September 18 2015 05:31 GMT
#1415
A few months ago my dad was diagnosed with (not too serious) diabetes. Out the window went things like sugar and, more importantly, pasta for the old man. After reading about diabetes and seeing how my dad had to change his habits I decided to basically do it along with him.

Well, for the last 3ish months the amount of times I've had a sugary drink or junk/fast food I can probably count on 2 hands. In that time I've gone from 195 pounds to 176. I'm oddly finding it somewhat addicting NOT being addicted to sugary shit and other junk. Having a goal or discipline to stick to is pretty satisfying. I know I'm living healthier and looking/feeling better while doing it. I've also tried to walk and exercise much more than I have before and stuff like the health app on my phone is really helping me with that by actually showing me tangible numbers I can work towards.

I really wish more people, especially in the US, would actually look at how horrible all the crap we eat is, and how it's just turning us fat and diabetic. Seriously, 77 grams of sugar in one Mountain Dew bottle...
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 18 2015 05:42 GMT
#1416
On September 18 2015 14:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I only have subcutaneous fat then, is there special anything I can do about it besides calories and cutting down sugar?


No. Squat every day maybe.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4738 Posts
September 18 2015 09:10 GMT
#1417
On September 18 2015 13:10 zulu_nation8 wrote:
bought squid for the first time, has great macros apparently.

I've been eating my first meal at around 4-5pm everyday and fasting for 16 hours for the past week. Not sure if it's the food I'm eating but even though I'm losing weight overall, I'm retaining more fat in my gut compared to when I ate normally. I know it could be a lot of factors. Fasting is if anything, really convenient, and not too hard mentally after a while. Been lifting a lot on an empty stomach too and haven't noticed any difference.


Don't make assumptions because of how you see yourself in the mirror over the course of a couple of weeks. The mirror is lying to you! As a long time obese human being with massive weight swings all the time: You cannot trust yourself when you look in the mirror.

And as has been said, within a couple of weeks there are way too many influencing random elements. I cannot count the times where I had the same diet and lifestlye for a whole month and the scale did not move at all for three weeks only to lose 5lb during the next.

If you are convinced you are doing the right things (exercise more, eat better), then you will get results. Just be more patient.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
September 18 2015 09:46 GMT
#1418
Malinor is alive!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
September 18 2015 10:01 GMT
#1419
Oh, he has been around, just in the Running/Cycling thread
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4738 Posts
September 18 2015 11:13 GMT
#1420
Yeah well, working as a consultant, I just cannot lift consistantly. Therefore, my numbers are just embarassing

Running is just so much easier to organize and it is also very rewarding right now.

I joined a weightlifting club a while back though and I have started to learn the Clean & Jerk :-)

But I really miss being strong.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
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