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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
September 09 2015 04:10 GMT
#1381
Step 1) get an athletic trainer

Lol but really just check youtube, its not too hard. Takes quite abit of tape tho, and a pre-wrap/stretchy tape if you want to get fancy.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
September 09 2015 04:13 GMT
#1382
Keep your ankle at a 90 degree angle and take a bandage thingy and just wrap it around. You go around the foot once, then ankle once. You make it thick but not tight and it should cover most of the foot and all of the ankle, leaving the heel and toes free obviously. It is very easy. It should feel like it offers sme support, but shouldn't feel tight.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 09 2015 12:48 GMT
#1383
PR'd squat with a single at 305. Best part was only had minor minor tenderness in SI area afterwards and I'm not feeling a thing now so that's definitely an improvement.

Then I tweaked my upper back / neck doing a 145 ohp. Blah. Doesn't feel too serious but I do have to play in a vball tournament this evening...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-11 03:19:55
September 11 2015 03:06 GMT
#1384
What's a good arm program on top of powerlifts to make up for the arm parts not worked? I'm just doing random stuff like rear delt raises, skullcrushers, curls, etc, 2-3 exercises for every part, 2-3 sets/high rep, on top of the powerlifts/pull ups for that day. But it feels weird to do high rep/hypertrophy only for rest of the body and low rep for powerlifts.

For squat, bench, military press and variations I've changed to something like 5x3 or 33322 reps with about 3-4 warmup sets consisting of paused and normal reps, from the classic SS 3x5. Was told that this is the best way to put a lot of reps in to practice form while still focusing on strength and going at close to max every time.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 11 2015 03:19 GMT
#1385
Honestly, I do benches, overhead press and weighted dips 95% of the time.
Don't do skull crushers, they are either worthless or dangerous.

I think chin ups (or curls) would be a nice addition.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 11 2015 06:59 GMT
#1386
My back even hurts from running. It's like my back is 20 years ahead of the rest of me.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
September 11 2015 07:20 GMT
#1387
On September 11 2015 12:06 zulu_nation8 wrote:
What's a good arm program on top of powerlifts to make up for the arm parts not worked? I'm just doing random stuff like rear delt raises, skullcrushers, curls, etc, 2-3 exercises for every part, 2-3 sets/high rep, on top of the powerlifts/pull ups for that day. But it feels weird to do high rep/hypertrophy only for rest of the body and low rep for powerlifts.


This is what I do. You don't train accessory lifts and heavy compound movements the same.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 11 2015 19:13 GMT
#1388
Thats what you are supposed to do for arms. Bench and pullups does work your arm parts.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 10:56:48
September 14 2015 10:55 GMT
#1389
What do you guys think about inward knee movement while squatting? I do it intentionally sometimes to get through my sticking point. Is it dangerous? I only feel slightly sore in my IT band area after doing it. Also, I really like my walkout now. Have been doing practicing it because I usually lose tightness while walking the weight out last time.



IPF depth? These all felt pretty good in terms of depth, although they were a little slow.
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 14 2015 11:41 GMT
#1390
I have always been told that inward knee movement is one big no-no in a squat..
Yargh
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 14 2015 12:53 GMT
#1391
I'm curious why it helps you through your sticking point. Are you able to recruit some muscles better by doing that because everything I've heard about torque, joint tightness and biomechanics points to inward knee movement as a death knell for your squat.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
September 14 2015 14:21 GMT
#1392
On September 14 2015 21:53 mordek wrote:
I'm curious why it helps you through your sticking point. Are you able to recruit some muscles better by doing that because everything I've heard about torque, joint tightness and biomechanics points to inward knee movement as a death knell for your squat.


It helps me push a little more with my quads
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 16:13:01
September 14 2015 16:12 GMT
#1393
Shorter muscles are stronger muscles, the quad can produce more force by going inwards, that's why the body does it. It's ok for knees to travel inwards if they are "outwards" before, and if the weight remains mostly on the outer part of your feet.

It's the same for the deadlift. On max attempts, the upper back rounds allowing the abs to generate more tension; aditionally it also shortens the range of motion.

Or the triceps; the closer to lockout more weight you can handle.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
September 14 2015 18:41 GMT
#1394
On September 14 2015 21:53 mordek wrote:
I'm curious why it helps you through your sticking point. Are you able to recruit some muscles better by doing that because everything I've heard about torque, joint tightness and biomechanics points to inward knee movement as a death knell for your squat.

AFAIK it's a sign of relatively strong quads, and either weak or poorly activated glutes.

If it's getting you through your sticking point, you would probably be better off in the long run by figuring out what's going on with the glutes and using them better. Safer for your knees, and better progress over time.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 14 2015 19:33 GMT
#1395
On September 15 2015 03:41 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 21:53 mordek wrote:
I'm curious why it helps you through your sticking point. Are you able to recruit some muscles better by doing that because everything I've heard about torque, joint tightness and biomechanics points to inward knee movement as a death knell for your squat.

AFAIK it's a sign of relatively strong quads, and either weak or poorly activated glutes.

If it's getting you through your sticking point, you would probably be better off in the long run by figuring out what's going on with the glutes and using them better. Safer for your knees, and better progress over time.


I disagree. No weak anything on this video.

phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
September 14 2015 19:47 GMT
#1396
On September 15 2015 04:33 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 03:41 phyre112 wrote:
On September 14 2015 21:53 mordek wrote:
I'm curious why it helps you through your sticking point. Are you able to recruit some muscles better by doing that because everything I've heard about torque, joint tightness and biomechanics points to inward knee movement as a death knell for your squat.

AFAIK it's a sign of relatively strong quads, and either weak or poorly activated glutes.

If it's getting you through your sticking point, you would probably be better off in the long run by figuring out what's going on with the glutes and using them better. Safer for your knees, and better progress over time.


I disagree. No weak anything on this video.

https://youtu.be/XpsyqxDTKwM


"weak" is a relative term. If he's not dipping his knees in on purpose, I'd wouldn't be surprised to hear that his quads are (relatively) stronger than his glutes.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-15 03:06:57
September 15 2015 03:05 GMT
#1397
so I lifted today with the 150lb bro who squats 400. He says his goal is to lift less and do more sprinting and hiit. I asked him everything I could. He doesn't do arms, very little back cuz he says he doesn't want a powerlifter physique and that big back/traps makes everything else look small. He does abs 5 days a week, then leg/upper body/legs, etc, mostly 6x3 sets at 80% max with 4-5 min rest.

Is this how to get stronger without getting big? Lots of sets but with 2-3 reps? I know that lots of reps over many sets is good for practicing form, and is what I've been pretty much doing. But I'm still trying to figure out a program after SS that considers aesthetics but also helps the main lifts.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
September 15 2015 04:44 GMT
#1398
Agree with both gotunk and phyre.

There's perfectly safe way to bring in quads to maximize their effectiveness (esp if you are quad dominant like many weightlifters). There's also really shitty way that you see a lot of people with poor hip and ankle mobility bring there knees in that makes me cringe. Make sure you do the former if you do bring them in.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 15 2015 04:46 GMT
#1399
Yeah lots of sets with low reps. Just ask GoTunk.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
September 15 2015 08:54 GMT
#1400
I think I have a decent shot at a 1000lb total after about a year of lifting, and at my first meet too on the 3rd of October!

I plan to hit:
SQ 185kg
BP 85kg
DL 185kg
Total: 455kg/1003lbs

What do you guys think about my attempt selection:
SQ 165/175/185
BP 65/75/85
DL 165/175/185
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
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