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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 16 2014 19:51 GMT
#201
I think DeAngello Williams is pretty good, but he's up there in age now. His issue is that the offense with Cam and so many other backs limits his carries. Stewart, IMO, you could replace with any average back and get similar results. He's not particularly dynamic.

The thing that is surprising to me is that they still have both of them on the team and let go all of their WRs without bringing in a high profile replacement. They're both making pretty much every down back salary.
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HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
March 16 2014 22:06 GMT
#202
Deangelo Williams is still very good in my eyes, but he is making too much money for how little they use him. As others have said, Cam and our "fullback" Mike Tolbert take way too many carries. Stewart is expendable, unless we plan on running the triple option this year. Even then he is making way way way too much money.
CIS Doto
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 22:41:12
March 16 2014 22:39 GMT
#203
Yep. Unfortunately for Gettleman, Marty Hurney hamstrung the Panthers for him by giving Williams/Stewart those ridiculous contracts. Stewart gets banged up so much, the Panthers are virtually flushing money down the toilet.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 16 2014 23:00 GMT
#204
I didn't even think Stewart was worth it at the time. With the injuries now? Unless he's got some kind of nasty cap penalty, it's silly they didn't cut him.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 23:03:50
March 16 2014 23:03 GMT
#205
Yeh he does, apparently the dead money is like 18 million.
It's unclear if the $715,000 difference was converted to a "signing" bonus to create a bit of additional cap space, or if Stewart took a straight pay cut. Either way, Stewart's roster spot isn't in jeopardy due to an enormous amount of dead money ($18.185 million) it would create if Stewart were released.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4650/jonathan-stewart
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 16 2014 23:10 GMT
#206
oh my god, how on earth do you draft that contract as a GM!?!?
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HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
March 17 2014 03:09 GMT
#207
It's Marty Hurney. It's just what he did.
CIS Doto
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51576 Posts
March 18 2014 00:01 GMT
#208
oh boy, bridgewater's pro day was BRUTAL. no idea what happened there but i think this elevated bortles and manziel over him.
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 00:12:25
March 18 2014 00:09 GMT
#209
On March 18 2014 09:01 GTR wrote:
oh boy, bridgewater's pro day was BRUTAL. no idea what happened there but i think this elevated bortles and manziel over him.


Truthfully it shouldn't make a difference, pro days are massively overrated. The interview should be where a GM tries to evaluate a QB. Can that QB break down their playbook and explain why they take the actions they do? Do they understand what the offense is trying to accomplish or is it all just "I make read A and throw to receiver Z because thats what happens".
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 18 2014 00:10 GMT
#210
I do not watch a ton of college ball, but I've seen Bridgwater a few times and I think someone is gonna be really happy when he drops to them.

In other news, I am really happy that Vick's career is finally nearing an end
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 18 2014 00:28 GMT
#211
On March 18 2014 09:10 QuanticHawk wrote:
I do not watch a ton of college ball, but I've seen Bridgwater a few times and I think someone is gonna be really happy when he drops to them.

In other news, I am really happy that Vick's career is finally nearing an end


Depends how far.

Because we have seen how incredible having a fairly competent QB on a low salary figure can be with teams like San Fran and Seattle.
Freeeeeeedom
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 18 2014 00:33 GMT
#212
True.

I've not seen much of Bortles at all, and although I love Johnny Football as a college player, I think he's not as great as an NFL player. Very small for a dude who will be running a lot, and his throwing motion is pretty meh.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
March 18 2014 01:11 GMT
#213
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-needs-to-step-up-and-help-one-of-its-own-182858089-nfl.html

I don't get the premise of this column.

I didn't think it was possible to be more stupid than driving home shitfaced as a millioniare athlete, but doing it as a billionaire owner takes the cake. Why the hell should the league hammer players for doing dumb shit, but give an owner a pass?? Weztel is usually good too
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 18 2014 01:22 GMT
#214
On March 18 2014 10:11 QuanticHawk wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-needs-to-step-up-and-help-one-of-its-own-182858089-nfl.html

I don't get the premise of this column.

I didn't think it was possible to be more stupid than driving home shitfaced as a millioniare athlete, but doing it as a billionaire owner takes the cake. Why the hell should the league hammer players for doing dumb shit, but give an owner a pass?? Weztel is usually good too

Hey, at least we now know why the Colts were unable to provide Manning with a good supporting cast most of those years.
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
March 18 2014 15:44 GMT
#215
On March 18 2014 10:11 QuanticHawk wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-needs-to-step-up-and-help-one-of-its-own-182858089-nfl.html

I don't get the premise of this column.

I didn't think it was possible to be more stupid than driving home shitfaced as a millioniare athlete, but doing it as a billionaire owner takes the cake. Why the hell should the league hammer players for doing dumb shit, but give an owner a pass?? Weztel is usually good too

Being an addict has nothing to do with your bank statement. If anything, the fact a billionaire put himself in a position to be arrested as he was should be an indication of how deep the problem is for him. It could even be interpreted as a cry for help. I didn't see Weztel implying we or the NFL should give him a pass, but rather advocating compassion for a deeply troubled man.
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 18 2014 17:31 GMT
#216
On March 18 2014 10:22 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 10:11 QuanticHawk wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-needs-to-step-up-and-help-one-of-its-own-182858089-nfl.html

I don't get the premise of this column.

I didn't think it was possible to be more stupid than driving home shitfaced as a millioniare athlete, but doing it as a billionaire owner takes the cake. Why the hell should the league hammer players for doing dumb shit, but give an owner a pass?? Weztel is usually good too

Hey, at least we now know why the Colts were unable to provide Manning with a good supporting cast most of those years.


One of the most overrated franchise in all of sports. They couldn't provide a good supporting cast to Manning and they are doing the same crap to Luck. Many of their personnel moves the past couple of years has been laughable.
jrwh
Profile Joined November 2011
United States37 Posts
March 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#217
On March 19 2014 02:31 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 10:22 xDaunt wrote:
On March 18 2014 10:11 QuanticHawk wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-needs-to-step-up-and-help-one-of-its-own-182858089-nfl.html

I don't get the premise of this column.

I didn't think it was possible to be more stupid than driving home shitfaced as a millioniare athlete, but doing it as a billionaire owner takes the cake. Why the hell should the league hammer players for doing dumb shit, but give an owner a pass?? Weztel is usually good too

Hey, at least we now know why the Colts were unable to provide Manning with a good supporting cast most of those years.


One of the most overrated franchise in all of sports. They couldn't provide a good supporting cast to Manning and they are doing the same crap to Luck. Many of their personnel moves the past couple of years has been laughable.


I thought the Trent Richardson move was phenomenal, though it hasn't panned out yet.

I'd be willing to bet the Colts win 1 or more SBs in the next 10 years.

As for the owner, I tend to think that whatever problems billionaires have, they'll end up just fine.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 18 2014 18:09 GMT
#218
On March 19 2014 02:53 jrwh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 02:31 andrewlt wrote:
On March 18 2014 10:22 xDaunt wrote:
On March 18 2014 10:11 QuanticHawk wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-needs-to-step-up-and-help-one-of-its-own-182858089-nfl.html

I don't get the premise of this column.

I didn't think it was possible to be more stupid than driving home shitfaced as a millioniare athlete, but doing it as a billionaire owner takes the cake. Why the hell should the league hammer players for doing dumb shit, but give an owner a pass?? Weztel is usually good too

Hey, at least we now know why the Colts were unable to provide Manning with a good supporting cast most of those years.


One of the most overrated franchise in all of sports. They couldn't provide a good supporting cast to Manning and they are doing the same crap to Luck. Many of their personnel moves the past couple of years has been laughable.


I thought the Trent Richardson move was phenomenal, though it hasn't panned out yet.

I'd be willing to bet the Colts win 1 or more SBs in the next 10 years.

As for the owner, I tend to think that whatever problems billionaires have, they'll end up just fine.

I'm not sure that's something that I'd be admitting. That move presently looks like a disaster.
jrwh
Profile Joined November 2011
United States37 Posts
March 18 2014 19:06 GMT
#219
I have no idea what's been wrong with the dude. I haven't heard of any off the field issues or injuries that might shed some light on why he did so poorly this past season. But getting rid of what was likely to be a 20+ pick (ended up being 26 I think?) for a guy one season removed from being the #3 seems like a steal. Especially when that guy rushed for 11 tds and 950 yards in 15 games as a rookie. While being on the Browns.

We'll see this season if it was just a "sophomore slump" or he really isn't worth a late first round pick. Even if he for some reason never plays another NFL play, I think the trade was solid gamble on giving up what they did vs what they could/should have gotten out of it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 18 2014 19:30 GMT
#220
Only if you value running backs like this was 1990...
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