2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 89

On August 01 2013 05:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
like, I get what you guys are saying with tottenham wanting to keep him to make top 4. that way it kinda looks like a positive gamble, either bale gets them to CL and then they're more attractive and then potentially they can establish in top 4 (overtaking arsenal, which I guess every spurs fan would find incredibly delightful), or he doesn't and they sell him for almost equally much next year cuz he's just not the type of player that's likely to become worse anytime soon, rather the contrary.

the thing is that not letting bale go makes a club like tottenham, if it fails to become a first tier club, much less attractive for first tier talent. there are very good reasons why almost no clubs actually try to hold on to players against their will - even though they usually claim that they're gonna do that (to bring price higher I assume) almost no clubs actually follow through; at least not after the transfer desire has made headlines.

On August 01 2013 05:43 city42 wrote:

So you're saying top tier talent would be more attracted to a selling club playing in the Europa League every season? Perhaps you can tell me who Spurs would bring in to replace Bale then.

On August 01 2013 05:42 Influ wrote:
Anyone knows if Luiz Gustavo is injured or something? If not than he will certainly leave Bayern probably to Wolfsburg after not playing today.

On August 01 2013 05:45 malcram wrote:


I think he meant quite the opposite?

On August 01 2013 05:55 malcram wrote:
I think we're supposed to look at it within the context of the Bale saga.

Hypothetical situation:

If Spurs don't sell Bale. They get top 4. Bale establishes himself to be a Spurs legend. Continues to perform (Spurs continue to perform consistently top4/challenge for title perhaps).

Suddenly, no one remembers that they blocked his transfer. And top talents will be attracted to Spurs to challenge for silverware. Spurs board will look like geniuses.

Lol...I still think Spurs shouldn't sell. But now that he has expressed his desire to leave, it would make them look like giant douchebags to block the transfer. Players really got a lot of power now eh?

On August 01 2013 05:45 malcram wrote:


I think he meant quite the opposite?

On August 01 2013 06:00 Rebs wrote:
It is incredibly naive to assume that he will NOT leave at some point, and it will be sooner rather than later even if its not this year.

On August 01 2013 06:07 city42 wrote:

No, he's saying that top players won't be attracted to a club that holds onto players against their will. I'm wondering why a selling club with no CL and no realistic chance to win trophies would be more attractive. Players want to win things. If Spurs sell their best players every year, they are announcing to the world that they have no ambition to win anything.

On August 01 2013 06:20 Liquid`Drone wrote:


that's a valid point. But the thing is, I don't think spurs is in the market for top players anyway. they're in the market for top unproven talent. with how money is flowing now, there's something like 10 clubs total that are in the market for current top players, and spurs isn't one of them. I think that currently the best spurs can do, is sign great talent, turn them greater and then allow them to leave. I think holding on to bale against his will can either win them a top 4 position which could possibly turn them into more of a powerhouse, OR make them partially lose the position they currently have where they are attractive for top talent. for example, I think ajax and porto and benfica are exceptionally attractive clubs for top tier talent, even though they are not in competition for the CL- I think spurs is in a similar position and I don't think porto benfica or ajax would've maintained their great talent producing position if they had established a history of holding on to their star players 10 years ago.

On August 01 2013 06:36 Ysellian wrote:
And Bale can read. I'm sure he must be thinking his current club is retarded for not letting him move for such a fee.

@city42, as a fan myself of a team struggling to keep a hold onto players I feel your pain. But I know keeping players against their will has often turned out worse for my team than better. Btw Morata is a great talent, I hope Spurs land him.

On August 01 2013 06:08 Pandemona wrote:
Don't forget like we will see with Lewandowski this season who has been saying in interviews he is pissed at not being allowed to leave this season to Bayern. Keeping a player who isn't giving 100% is very pointless, even more pointless when they know they can leave next season ^_^

On August 01 2013 07:33 Epx wrote:


he just said he got a few disagreements with the management but he loves the team and his team mates and he will give 100% for his team, that's for sure.

On August 01 2013 06:20 Liquid`Drone wrote:


that's a valid point. But the thing is, I don't think spurs is in the market for top players anyway. they're in the market for top unproven talent. with how money is flowing now, there's something like 10 clubs total that are in the market for current top players, and spurs isn't one of them. I think that currently the best spurs can do, is sign great talent, turn them greater and then allow them to leave. I think holding on to bale against his will can either win them a top 4 position which could possibly turn them into more of a powerhouse, OR make them partially lose the position they currently have where they are attractive for top talent. for example, I think ajax and porto and benfica are exceptionally attractive clubs for top tier talent, even though they are not in competition for the CL- I think spurs is in a similar position and I don't think porto benfica or ajax would've maintained their great talent producing position if they had established a history of holding on to their star players 10 years ago.

On August 01 2013 11:59 EchoZ wrote:
So who could Tottenham possibly sign now? With that 85m that's at least 3 world class players in