EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 87
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
On July 31 2013 14:34 Sgany wrote: I really don't know what people see in Bale...He is not even in the top 10 players in Europe, never mind the top 3...Plus Ronaldo plays the same position as him. He is probably the best player to be found outside Chelsea / MU / City / PSG / Monaco / Barcelona / Real / Inter / Bayern, meaning that he is likely the best player remotely available to sign for one of those. Still only 24 years old, so his peak should last for at least 3 seasons. Plus they always can play Ronaldo as a striker or on the other wing - or move Bale on Ozil's spot, depending who is going to be injuried / suspended at given point. On July 31 2013 14:47 Ferrose wrote: Lastly, I think it'd be better to stay because he can make himself a legend at Spurs. He can do whatever the hell he wants; that's his team. Real is Ronaldo's tean. Bale is just another piece of the puzzle there. This is football, a team game. Everyone is a piece of the puzzle, regardless of club or reputation. If Bale is good enough - and apparently, he is - then he should leave Tottenham, because that club won't be getting anywhere near trophies and absolute top-tier play. Face it guys - the world of Champions League and top European Leagues is already divided between the giants so it will be harder and harder for teams like Spurs to compete. Frankly, I don't even see them trying that much. Fans will always talk about their teams' legends, but being a football pro is just another job and if there's an opportunity for better wages in more prestiguous company like Real, one should take it - just as the less prestigious company of Spurs should take the record-breaking bid, as Bale certainly ain't better than CR7. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
If Tottenham feel that they can improve their stature in the football world by qualifying for the Champions League with Bale's help only, then they should turn down Real's offer. I find that assumption highly questionable, however. Bale might not be to happy to have another season in which he cannot really compete for a title. He should sign a new contract including a release clause for next summer. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
News Reports in Spain suggest Valencia will offer Chelsea’s Fernando Torres a ticket home to Spain if they sell Roberto Soldado to Tottenham Hotspur Arsenal will have to pay £55million if they still want Luis Suarez after the striker dropped the pursuit of his contract row with Liverpool Atletico Mineiro's president Alexandre Kalil has told 'UOL' he has agreed to sell Brazilian Bernard to Shakhtar Donetsk Reports in Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport say that Wallace's transfer from Chelsea to Inter Milan will become official in the next few days Tottenham Hotspur could apparently consider investing any money they receive for Gareth Bale in an attempt to sign Liverpool’s Luis Suarez, claims the Daily Mail Joey Barton will sacrifice half his wages if it means he can play for his beloved Everton, says the Daily Mirror Croatian striker Ivica Olic is planning to leave Wolfsburg, and the Bundesliga, when his contract expires at the end of the season Panathinaikos have announced the signing of Algerian international Mehdi Abeid from Newcastle United on a one-year loan Celtic have completed the signing of Ajax winger Derk Boerrigter on a four-year deal for an undisclosed fee Stoke City manager Mark Hughes is hoping to stage a £3million bid for Jermain Defoe, reports the Daily Star Greece winger Charis Mavrias is set to become Sunderland’s 10th summer signings, reports The Sun West Ham United are set to make a move for Sporting Lisbon's former Chelsea defender Khalid Boulahrouz | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
90 Million € for Bale... 45 Million for some Colombian guy i have never heard of... Whats wrong with the transfer market with prizes way of any mind. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18749 Posts
On July 31 2013 17:08 Maenander wrote: Bayern turned down a ridiculous Real offer for Ribery in 2009, and look where they are now. If Tottenham feel that they can improve their stature in the football world by qualifying for the Champions League with Bale's help only, then they should turn down Real's offer. I find that assumption highly questionable, however. Bale might not be to happy to have another season in which he cannot really compete for a title. He should sign a new contract including a release clause for next summer. funny thing though is that Ribery would have left Bayern the season after that if not for the underaged sex scandal | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On July 31 2013 17:43 USvBleakill wrote: 60 Million € for Suarez... 90 Million € for Bale... 45 Million for some Colombian guy i have never heard of... Whats wrong with the transfer market with prizes way of any mind. Yeah seriously. I want to Arsenal to sign Suarez, but not for that much. It's just not worth it anymore. Edit: Reminder: In five hours from this post, (17:15 GMT (+00:00)), is the start of the Audi Cup, with Manchester City playing Milan, followed by Bayern v Sao Paulo. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
The Guinnes Championship 2013 Juventus vs Everton Kick Off Previous Results; AC Milan 2-1 Valencia + Show Spoiler [Scorers] + Robinho 21min - De Jong 38min Dani Parejo 53min Upcoming Matches; Chelsea vs Inter Milan Real Madrid vs LA Galaxy AC Milan vs Inter Milan/Chelsea (Winner) Valencia vs Inter Milan/Chelsea (Loser) Link to Championship | ||
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Holdinga
Bulgaria300 Posts
For now I think - Sturridge, Kompany, David Silva, Hazard and Oscar, but I'm really not sure... First time playing this year !  So any advice will be appreciated! Thanks | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On July 31 2013 21:14 Holdinga wrote: Some tips for fantasy football ? Any players you think are really good for their price? I'm not sure which defenders to use at all. David Luiz maybe? Ivanovic? Which three players from chelsea should I choose ? I think Hazard definitely. Maybe Oscar. De Bruyne or some other defender? For now I think - Sturridge, Kompany, David Silva, Hazard and Oscar, but I'm really not sure... First time playing this year ! So any advice will be appreciated! ThanksIt is pretty hard at the start best thing you can do is pick a team you think will do well and if game weeks 1 and 2 they are not playing or having shockers use your "wild card" button early in week 3 (Wildcard = u get a whole reset and can rechoose your WHOLE squad for free at no point costs) and re pick. In terms of Sturridge Hazard Silva i think are good picks. Kompany with City under a new manager i don't think is a good pick. Clean sheets and goals are how defenders make points, City have been leaking goals in pre season and he is not a scoring CB so will be hard to see where his points will come from. Oscar is just another thing, Chelsea midfield is STUPIDLY overcrowded and unless your Mata or Hazard i don't think you can say they will play week in week out. Defenders i always pick LB/RBs if i can help it. Ashley Cole as he will play every game at LB for Chelsea, and has a knack for setting up goals as his energy levels are amazing. Then i also look around at other high scoring players. Agger is my other choice so far as he will play every game for Liverpool and i think they will be better defensively and he is known to score. The other is a punt a cheap one in Riether as he played really well for Fulham last year and i hope he can score me a few points (plus Fulham rarely lose heavily). On the bench in defender slot (as a play 3-4-3) i have Rat from West Ham who play defensively so i might use him if they do look like not conceding in a game and Riether gives me nothing. But of course the main place for scoring is mid+strikers. My big punt this season is Coutinho, the guy looked good last season in the few times i saw him for the Scouse, but also pre season he has started well. So i expect him to be at the hart of everything with the Scouse. Also looking to take a punt on Rodwell of Man City, not sure if he will play now but last season whenever he did (was injured alot) he was great, scored a few times, looked dangerous and was pretty much a beast. | ||
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Holdinga
Bulgaria300 Posts
Bale is probably worth his price if he stays in tottenham, but for now I dont got him. David Silva is really good, and I want to get him, do you think he will play a lot this season in MC? I definitely should get 3 players from chelsea and 3 from MC. Also I think tottenham will do better this season... I also sense a fall of Man united... Yeah Chelsea's midfield is really overcrowded, which is a big problem, but for sure Hazard will probably get the most play time... But the new players Mourinho brought in are probably his favorites... so I dont know. Oscar had an awesome last season, and De Bruyne is really good. Anybody else got some advice ? EDIT: For a goalkeeper I think stekelenburg is a good choice too, I'll probably go with him | ||
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mevshero
911 Posts
today: manchester city - ac milan (18.15 CEST) fc bayern - sao paulo fc (20.30 CEST) tomorrow: final and 3rd place match | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
In terms of why you can't choose a formation you have to select your 15 players, then you have to go to the tab "pick your team" then you just move players around by hand to change the formation. EG; Move a defender and swap him with a midfield substitute and it changes the formation that way. I always use 3-4-3 as i said Defenders are hard to pick for good points. 1 Goal against them and they lose their clean sheet bonus, 2 goals against them and they lose you 1 point then 3 goals and its -2 points etc. Plus they are more likely to get Yellow cards etc which is minus points again. Hart is ok, but i always go with Cech being a Chelsea fan, and your 3City and 3Chelsea players idea is probably a really good choice. Maybe not the Spurs reasoning, as if Bale does leave i think Spurs will be fucking awful. Don't forget they would of been mid table team without Bales goals, even towards the end of the season, the last 4 games he pretty much won the games on his own with 90+ minute wonder goals. Strikers for City is another interesting point. Who will play? Aguero Dzeko Jovetic Negredo. I think Aguero will be main choice and should be, but maybe a rotation system will be in play. So got to be careful when picking. I will be watching this "Audi Cup" which Man City are involved in and be looking at performances to see who is playing in what game and for how long to see if they might get picked, as Rodwell (my pick) might not play. | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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ThreeAcross
172 Posts
On July 31 2013 18:02 sc4k wrote: 3 million for Jermain Defoe are you having a laugh?! Yah, way too much. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
With the cost strikers go for nowadays, he is minimum 10 million | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On July 31 2013 23:52 warding wrote: One possible theory for the ballooning transfer fees, beyond the fact that arab/russian billionaires want new toys, is that the rising middle classes in Asia combined with easy worldwide digital distribution of content means that armies of new potential fans are there for the conquering, NOW. The teams that are now at the top are the ones that will claim the largest numbers of fans in these new growing markets, and brand loyalty in football lasts longer than in other markets. So being at the top right now not only is good for the short-term prizes and glory, but also means higher long-term revenues. Another point to add to this is maybe that some of the "investors" from the east see this as an access point to the western markets. Comparing to other things sports clubs are relativly easy to "buy" and give you a already established international company with a lot of attention and business contacts in the west through sponsoring. Just imagine the following news: Random Russian guy you never heared of invests 100 Million in france bank Random Russian guy you never heared of invests 100 Million in AS Monaco in which news nobody cares and in which everyone loses their mind? | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On July 31 2013 16:58 wingpawn wrote: This is football, a team game. Everyone is a piece of the puzzle, regardless of club or reputation. If Bale is good enough - and apparently, he is - then he should leave Tottenham, because that club won't be getting anywhere near trophies and absolute top-tier play. Face it guys - the world of Champions League and top European Leagues is already divided between the giants so it will be harder and harder for teams like Spurs to compete. Frankly, I don't even see them trying that much. Fans will always talk about their teams' legends, but being a football pro is just another job and if there's an opportunity for better wages in more prestiguous company like Real, one should take it - just as the less prestigious company of Spurs should take the record-breaking bid, as Bale certainly ain't better than CR7. I don't agree with that at all. When Levy took over as chairman, Spurs were finishing in the bottom half of the table. In the last four years, they've finished 4th twice, despite having a sizable financial disadvantage compared to the Manchester clubs, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Liverpool. The new stadium project is slowly moving forward as well. I often complain about Levy's transfer market behavior, but he's an extremely astute businessman who has brought Spurs a long way. Levy clearly has his reasons for not wanting to allow this transfer at any cost. Unfortunately, he is not the majority owner of the club. That would be Joe Lewis, a tax exile billionaire living in the Bahamas, and if Lewis gets a firm offer from Madrid for some insane world record sum, Bale will leave. In an unrelated note, I'm appalled that Caulker might be sold to Cardiff. | ||
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