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mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4175 Posts
July 30 2013 14:26 GMT
#1681
See but I wasnt talking about becoming a TOP pro, such a messi dinho etc, of course they are completly special and out of this world.

I was talking about becoming one of the pro's like I mentioned Oleguer Presas, or just some random defender or midfielder from a middle to lower table team, even just a team fighting not to decend in pro league.

No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 14:38:50
July 30 2013 14:38 GMT
#1682
On July 30 2013 23:26 mAKiTO wrote:
See but I wasnt talking about becoming a TOP pro, such a messi dinho etc, of course they are completly special and out of this world.

I was talking about becoming one of the pro's like I mentioned Oleguer Presas, or just some random defender or midfielder from a middle to lower table team, even just a team fighting not to decend in pro league.

IMO, parents' persistence is the key. Say you are 10-12 years old and promising, but the whole adolescence is before you, and in fact only parents have any chance to keep you from alcohol, cigarettes, ganja, girls, video games and many other distractions by pushing you into lots of practice + healthy lifestyle. Plus they can make much more sensible decisions about finacial and legal stuff like contracts etc. Also, I heard that most of clubs seriously involved in youth football education pay lots of attention to the pure physical development and natural fitness and can predict that quite early in a young guy. Perhaps Oleguer was one of those natural athletes who never backed it up with technique and in-game thinking? Caus, you know, even if so, he would be still much more desirable signing than a genius who has stamina only for 50 minutes of play. Football is so physical these days...
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 14:39:57
July 30 2013 14:39 GMT
#1683
I don't really get your point Makito. It's not like professional sportsmen are a different species. There are probably millions of city-workers around the world who could be pro footballers if they wanted to enough and they trained enough and had support from their parents etc. Same goes for any sport.
Holdinga
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria300 Posts
July 30 2013 15:26 GMT
#1684
hey guys i'm a noob (Never played fantasy football before) and I was forced to play fantasy football premier league with my friends, Can someone give me some basic strategy tips for choosing my team ?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 30 2013 15:31 GMT
#1685
On July 31 2013 00:26 Holdinga wrote:
hey guys i'm a noob (Never played fantasy football before) and I was forced to play fantasy football premier league with my friends, Can someone give me some basic strategy tips for choosing my team ?


First off, you want to make sure the players you pick play EVERY game for their team (minus injuries of course) So when picking a first 11 (not including subs) make sure you have selected players that WILL play every game or atleast 90% of the premiership.

Second save money on Subs on. I always go for the cheapest GK and a atleast 2 cheap "wild card" type pics for subs so i can spend more money on my main starting 11.

Strikers/Attacking Midfielders will score you the most points, but do keep in mind a bad defense/keeper can cost you a lot of points.

Other than that, every new season brings unkown. Last year Michu was the best pick you could ever have, so cheap at the start and went on to score ALOT of points. Finding the hidden gems early on can be the difference between having a good season or a bad one xD

Oh and there is luck involved

Use substitutes and wildcards WISELY
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 30 2013 15:33 GMT
#1686
Champions League & Europa League Thread is live
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 30 2013 15:38 GMT
#1687


Breaking News!

Real Madrid have made a world record bid of over £85m to Spurs for Gareth Bale, Sky Sports understands.

The bid has been on the table for over a week and Bale is aware of it and is becoming more frustrated with the situation
The bid does not include any Real Madrid players moving to Spurs as part of a package.
Sky Sports understands Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is currently in Miami and that the club's stance - that the Wales international is not for sale - has not changed.
Bale has so far kept his feelings to himself, making no public declaration about what he wants to happen next.


ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
TS-Rupbar
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden1089 Posts
July 30 2013 15:47 GMT
#1688
Does anyone have any opinions on Fabregas to United or Arsenal?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
July 30 2013 16:21 GMT
#1689
Crazy Madrid haha. I know Spurs can't spend the money immediately, but even with Bale I don't think they are top 4 candidates as Arsenal seem to sneak in every year regardless how good they look. I say take the money and use the money over the coming years to build themselves up again.


Epx
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland209 Posts
July 30 2013 16:22 GMT
#1690
how can it be allowed that clubs with so many debts like real can bid on players with so much money... retarded.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 16:37:40
July 30 2013 16:28 GMT
#1691
On July 31 2013 01:22 Epx wrote:
how can it be allowed that clubs with so many debts like real can bid on players with so much money... retarded.


Actually Madrid's debt isn't that bad. http://swissramble.blogspot.nl/search/label/Real Madrid


On July 31 2013 01:35 wingpawn wrote:
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On July 31 2013 00:47 TS-Rupbar wrote:
Does anyone have any opinions on Fabregas to United or Arsenal?

Basically, his life sucks now.

If he goes to Arsenal:
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/

If he goes to Manchester United:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If he stays in Barcelona:
+ Show Spoiler +
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LOOOL good stuff XD
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
July 30 2013 16:35 GMT
#1692
On July 31 2013 00:47 TS-Rupbar wrote:
Does anyone have any opinions on Fabregas to United or Arsenal?

Basically, his life sucks now.

If he goes to Arsenal:
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/

If he goes to Manchester United:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If he stays in Barcelona:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
+
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
July 30 2013 16:45 GMT
#1693
On July 31 2013 01:35 wingpawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 00:47 TS-Rupbar wrote:
Does anyone have any opinions on Fabregas to United or Arsenal?

Basically, his life sucks now.

If he goes to Arsenal:
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/

If he goes to Manchester United:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If he stays in Barcelona:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Oh this is so epic :D
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 30 2013 17:21 GMT
#1694
Two tickets to Duisburg/Regensburg + free travel from a reasonable distance + standing equity + can drink beer and watch game at same time = 21 euros

One ticket to Sheffield United/Notts County + nothing + on telly anyway = 21 euros

I'm quite excited about the Germany trip next week.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28863 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 17:52:35
July 30 2013 17:51 GMT
#1695
hm during my childhood I played with 2 guys who got games for rosenborg and one guy who went to tottenham when he was 16. my experience seems to differ from the rest of you, in that all of these three players were heads and shoulders above their peers, like when they were 7 years old they would be playing together with 11 year olds- or they would completely dominate against players their own age.

agree that persistence and luck is what makes players successful though, once you are above a certain threshold of talent (which is higher for midfielders and strikers than it is for defenders and goalkeepers) - two of those three players ended up having to stop playing cause of injuries, and the last one (who went to tottenham) stopped playing because (literal quote): every single other guy on the team was a giant fucking retard of monumental proportions who had no other thought than wanting to get laid and he couldn't possibly picture himself spending the next several years together with absolute idiots. he used to play bw and warcraft 2 with me and my brother and now he's a doctor.

I guess come to think of it, they might have just been so outstanding because talent (at least used to be) much more scarce in norway than other countries ;p
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Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 18:08:56
July 30 2013 18:08 GMT
#1696
If you guys haven't read it and are interested in learning more about the phenomenon of youth sports and making it as a pro athlete, or at the top of any field, Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers" is a fantastic explanation of it. To boil it down and paraphrase into the shortest possible and clearly insufficient argument he says that
"getting in at the youngest level of elite training is the key to becoming a professional athlete. Oftentimes this is due only to size, and may be a result of being born in the right month of the year such as right before an age cutoff for youth sports. Accruing the most hours of elite training is the single most important factor in making it at the elite level in any profession and that is achieved most easily by starting exceptionally young."


He goes on to say that 10,000 hours of completely focused training is the benchmark to become truly elite at anything.
alwaysfeeling
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands55 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 18:13:06
July 30 2013 18:11 GMT
#1697
i have a Brasilian friend who im like 90% could've played pro if he got the proper training at a young age, hes 21 but his natural ability is just incredible. His uncle played professional and his current step father played professionally for Corinthians but had a major groin injury and was forced to retire early at like 21 or something. According to his step father it's like 99% luck because many of the players you see on TV playing professionally are not so much better than alot on the streets of Brasil according to him. He says that alot of the players who make it pro have really good work ethic usually and typically have money/connections etc. That or they get extremely lucky enough to be scouted. Anyway, my friend's control of the ball is ridiculous and hes able to get around any defender with creative flare and ease. He's got so many ways to get around you, never does the same thing twice. Ive seen him destroy local college players like they were nothing even though they're super fit and practice all day. He grew up playing indoor so he steps on the ball alot and it's practically impossible to win the ball from him. He's pacey but still able to control the ball at high speeds and he has very powerful accurate striking technique, he scores many goals from outside the box. He's got a skinny build and his limbs are very long and lanky which he works to his advantage. I'm pretty sure ive only seen him lose the ball maybe 20 times at most my entire life and ive played like 6 seasons with him and countless unofficial games (we play together twice a week - 11vs11 on sunday and indoor on thurs)

This one time he beat the last defender by sprinting past him and once around him had a one on one situation with the keeper and he managed to do a rainbow flick over the keeper WHILE RUNNING and scored... i mean... even the referee was smiling at that one.
i always lie
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28863 Posts
July 30 2013 18:38 GMT
#1698
On July 31 2013 03:08 Craze wrote:
If you guys haven't read it and are interested in learning more about the phenomenon of youth sports and making it as a pro athlete, or at the top of any field, Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers" is a fantastic explanation of it. To boil it down and paraphrase into the shortest possible and clearly insufficient argument he says that
Show nested quote +
"getting in at the youngest level of elite training is the key to becoming a professional athlete. Oftentimes this is due only to size, and may be a result of being born in the right month of the year such as right before an age cutoff for youth sports. Accruing the most hours of elite training is the single most important factor in making it at the elite level in any profession and that is achieved most easily by starting exceptionally young."


He goes on to say that 10,000 hours of completely focused training is the benchmark to become truly elite at anything.


I think size matters significantly more in american sports than in football. In fact, all the three players I mentioned in my previous post, while natural athletes without a doubt, were smaller than average until they turned 15 or so.

I do think that people born in january on average achieve more than people born in december though, regardless of field. (cept creating religions LOL)
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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
July 30 2013 18:44 GMT
#1699
On July 31 2013 03:38 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 03:08 Craze wrote:
If you guys haven't read it and are interested in learning more about the phenomenon of youth sports and making it as a pro athlete, or at the top of any field, Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers" is a fantastic explanation of it. To boil it down and paraphrase into the shortest possible and clearly insufficient argument he says that
"getting in at the youngest level of elite training is the key to becoming a professional athlete. Oftentimes this is due only to size, and may be a result of being born in the right month of the year such as right before an age cutoff for youth sports. Accruing the most hours of elite training is the single most important factor in making it at the elite level in any profession and that is achieved most easily by starting exceptionally young."


He goes on to say that 10,000 hours of completely focused training is the benchmark to become truly elite at anything.


I think size matters significantly more in american sports than in football. In fact, all the three players I mentioned in my previous post, while natural athletes without a doubt, were smaller than average until they turned 15 or so.

I do think that people born in january on average achieve more than people born in december though, regardless of field. (cept creating religions LOL)

As Im sure you know it depends on the position they play in. I doubt Pique or van Buyten would have had as much success if they were 2 feet shorter.

Also I was born in december and in athletics that was such a huge disadvantage running against guys 11 months older. In my soccer club I didnt notice that quiet as much (could be because we were all equally terrible).
This is our town, scrub
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
July 30 2013 19:01 GMT
#1700
On July 30 2013 21:51 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 19:57 EchoZ wrote:
On July 30 2013 12:11 Mensol wrote:
[image loading]

oh dear wenger hahahaha


This is priceless... As a Man U fan who is becoming somewhat antsy about transfers this summer, i can't imagine what the Arsenal fans have been going through.



I can kind of understand it. I think Wenger is hesitant because he doesn't want to pay these ridiculously inflated prices for players. I'd wager that signing Suarez was Ivan Gazidis' idea. I also think it has to do with his loyalty to the current players at the club.

You have Walcott, Giroud, Podolski, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere, Ramsey, and Arteta at the club currently, in any given game three of those guys are going to be on the bench (plus any players that become first-teamers this season, like Yaya Sanogo or Ryo). Wenger thinks those players between them have enough quality to win trophies, and that none of them deserve to be benched, especially for a new signing (which may also explain why players like Diaby keep getting a run in the side, rather than being sold and/or replaced by a new signing).

In the end though, I'm sure that whatever happens, Wenger will do what's best for the club.

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 20:32 Copymizer wrote:
On July 30 2013 05:40 Ferrose wrote:
Yes! AZ's forward Aron Johannsson has chosen to play for the USA, over Iceland.

I hope we can get Arsenal's Gedion Zelalem too. He's been impressing in the friendlies and is already drawing comparisons to Cesc Fabregas.

Aron Johansson used to play in my local city club (AGF) before they sold him to AZ But i don't get what you are saying, does he also have a US passport?


He was born in the United States.



Just did a quick search and you're defintely right. http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Island-vil-have-Aron-Johannsson-tilbage In this article Iceland wants Johansson back but here (http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Aron-Johannsson-vaelger-USA) he says he chooses USA Good for him, and he will have a higher chance to be successful on a national level. USA is in World cup everytime compared to Iceland maybe every 20 years-
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