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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 20:52:09
July 30 2013 19:07 GMT
#1701
Lechia Gdansk - FC Barcelona 1-0!

But it's only 15th minute of the game...

And yes, Barca fielded a strong team.

EDIT: 1-1 already, but the fact Polish side scored is already something...
EDIT 2: WTF am I watching, Lechia again in front. Messi can't break through alone, no Xavi-Iniesta and the team cannot really attack. On the other hand, both assist and finish in 2-1 action were quite outstanding.
EDIT 3: Ended up 2-2 with Messi equalizing. But it was funny - Blaugrana has no depth behind Valdes-Alves-Pique-Xavi-Iniesta backbone, remove them and the guys go toe-to-toe with avergage Polish team.
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
July 30 2013 19:58 GMT
#1702
Oh wow 2-1...
Fantasy is a beast
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
July 30 2013 20:19 GMT
#1703
85million bid for Bale...Anything over 40million is stupid for such an overrated and over-hyped player and I thought Neymar was over-hyped.
NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
July 30 2013 20:23 GMT
#1704
Guardiola denied any interest in signing David Luiz, so that rumour can be laid to rest. All those alleged offers were absurd really.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 30 2013 21:11 GMT
#1705
On July 31 2013 04:07 wingpawn wrote:
Lechia Gdansk - FC Barcelona 1-0!

But it's only 15th minute of the game...

And yes, Barca fielded a strong team.

EDIT: 1-1 already, but the fact Polish side scored is already something...
EDIT 2: WTF am I watching, Lechia again in front. Messi can't break through alone, no Xavi-Iniesta and the team cannot really attack. On the other hand, both assist and finish in 2-1 action were quite outstanding.
EDIT 3: Ended up 2-2 with Messi equalizing. But it was funny - Blaugrana has no depth behind Valdes-Alves-Pique-Xavi-Iniesta backbone, remove them and the guys go toe-to-toe with avergage Polish team.


Well it was a strong team... Compared to the rest of the teams.

The defenders were Montoya, Sergi Gómez (who is this guy), Bartra and Adriano. Compared to Alves, Piqué, Puyol/Masche, Jordi Alba. Not really close.
Also the midline was Dos Santos, Song and Sergi Roberto (this kid is actually really good). Not the usual Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets, either.

But still, the polish team played really solid and IMO deserved to win. So many good scoring chances missed.
Revolutionist fan
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
July 30 2013 21:19 GMT
#1706
Sergi Gomez is pretty good.

+ Show Spoiler +
In Football Manager. >________>
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
July 30 2013 21:25 GMT
#1707
On July 31 2013 06:11 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 04:07 wingpawn wrote:
Lechia Gdansk - FC Barcelona 1-0!

But it's only 15th minute of the game...

And yes, Barca fielded a strong team.

EDIT: 1-1 already, but the fact Polish side scored is already something...
EDIT 2: WTF am I watching, Lechia again in front. Messi can't break through alone, no Xavi-Iniesta and the team cannot really attack. On the other hand, both assist and finish in 2-1 action were quite outstanding.
EDIT 3: Ended up 2-2 with Messi equalizing. But it was funny - Blaugrana has no depth behind Valdes-Alves-Pique-Xavi-Iniesta backbone, remove them and the guys go toe-to-toe with avergage Polish team.


Well it was a strong team... Compared to the rest of the teams.

The defenders were Montoya, Sergi Gómez (who is this guy), Bartra and Adriano. Compared to Alves, Piqué, Puyol/Masche, Jordi Alba. Not really close.
Also the midline was Dos Santos, Song and Sergi Roberto (this kid is actually really good). Not the usual Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets, either.

But still, the polish team played really solid and IMO deserved to win. So many good scoring chances missed.

Those youngsters are supposed to at least show Messi-like flair but I couldn't really see any. Plus their play seems really chaotic when that many of them are fielded together. I guess this explains why Guardiola used them only as backup.

And yeah, Lechia had weirdly good game. Great tactical setup when Barcelona had the ball - 4 defenders on penalty box line and 5 midfielders placed tightly about 7-8 meters in front of defense - almost like Chelsea. If only their left-back could stop Montoya, FCB would have no entry points whatsoever.
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
July 30 2013 23:05 GMT
#1708


Hahaha fail :D
But does it djent?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
July 30 2013 23:43 GMT
#1709
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/30/gareth-bale-shouldnt-be-denied-once-in-a-lifetime-chance-by-tottenham-says-zinedine-zidane-3904707/

This just feels dirty and underhanded.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6292 Posts
July 31 2013 00:42 GMT
#1710
On July 31 2013 08:43 Ferrose wrote:
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/30/gareth-bale-shouldnt-be-denied-once-in-a-lifetime-chance-by-tottenham-says-zinedine-zidane-3904707/

This just feels dirty and underhanded.

Yes it does but it's true and I don't think Bale will get such an offer salary wise either any time soon. It also gives Bale better marketability playing for Real Madrid.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28864 Posts
July 31 2013 01:03 GMT
#1711
or he can be known as that guy who is so good that they don't even sell him for €85 million.

I honestly don't think bale cares about his marketability in this case. but he would love to play for real madrid as it is arguably the greatest football club through football history, and tottenham is by contrast pretty low on that list. as for tottenham, I don't really know whether to respect them more for refusing to sell just cause it's awesome not to let money rule, or whether to think they're dumb for not accepting that money rules, or maybe both. or it's just posturing and soon he'll be sold for 90.
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city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 01:10:42
July 31 2013 01:06 GMT
#1712
On July 31 2013 09:42 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 08:43 Ferrose wrote:
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/30/gareth-bale-shouldnt-be-denied-once-in-a-lifetime-chance-by-tottenham-says-zinedine-zidane-3904707/

This just feels dirty and underhanded.

Yes it does but it's true and I don't think Bale will get such an offer salary wise either any time soon. It also gives Bale better marketability playing for Real Madrid.

So what do you tell Daniel Levy? Let a player with 3 years left on his contract leave and ruin any chance of CL qualification? Madrid could pay €200m and it wouldn't matter...top players won't go to Tottenham because they want to play in the CL. Losing Bale invalidates all the progress the club have made over the last few years. Levy's obligation is to Spurs, not Gareth Bale.

This isn't a case like Juve losing Zidane and using the money on Buffon, Thuram, and Nedved. The best Spurs could hope for would be Erik Lamela and a bunch of young talent, with the rest of the money going into the stadium fund.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 31 2013 03:00 GMT
#1713
If that Bale transfer goes through it's going to be the start of a transfer warfare for many clubs.
Dear Sixsmith...
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 04:04:44
July 31 2013 04:02 GMT
#1714
On July 31 2013 10:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:
or he can be known as that guy who is so good that they don't even sell him for €85 million.

I honestly don't think bale cares about his marketability in this case. but he would love to play for real madrid as it is arguably the greatest football club through football history, and tottenham is by contrast pretty low on that list. as for tottenham, I don't really know whether to respect them more for refusing to sell just cause it's awesome not to let money rule, or whether to think they're dumb for not accepting that money rules, or maybe both. or it's just posturing and soon he'll be sold for 90.


If they can keep him for one more year, and they make Champions League, it's a win-win for Tottenham, since it's highly likely Real Madrid will want him for that much or close to it again next year, and they can do a lot more with the money then. It's a gambit that seems tempting.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 31 2013 04:43 GMT
#1715
what if.. they don't make CL even with Bale
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
July 31 2013 04:49 GMT
#1716
On July 31 2013 13:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what if.. they don't make CL even with Bale

That's why I called it a gambit not a sure thing. But I doubt there won't be ridiculous big bids next year if he plays as well as he has. The real worry is if his level declines significantly.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
July 31 2013 05:02 GMT
#1717
On July 31 2013 13:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what if.. they don't make CL even with Bale

Then they sell him next year for a huge but not-quite-so-astronomical sum? The real danger is a serious injury, but there's never a risk-free option when it comes to transfers.
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
July 31 2013 05:34 GMT
#1718
I really don't know what people see in Bale...He is not even in the top 10 players in Europe, never mind the top 3...Plus Ronaldo plays the same position as him.
NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
July 31 2013 05:46 GMT
#1719
On July 31 2013 14:34 Sgany wrote:
I really don't know what people see in Bale...He is not even in the top 10 players in Europe, never mind the top 3...Plus Ronaldo plays the same position as him.

I'm guessing you didn't actually watch him play last season? His enormous goalscoring abilities came out when he was moved away from the left, both on the right and behind the striker. He also plays on the right for Wales. If he does go to Madrid, he'll replace Di Maria on the right with Özil in the middle (assuming they stick to a 4-2-3-1). It's strange that you enjoy running him down when you know nothing about him.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
July 31 2013 05:47 GMT
#1720
On July 31 2013 09:42 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 08:43 Ferrose wrote:
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/30/gareth-bale-shouldnt-be-denied-once-in-a-lifetime-chance-by-tottenham-says-zinedine-zidane-3904707/

This just feels dirty and underhanded.

Yes it does but it's true and I don't think Bale will get such an offer salary wise either any time soon. It also gives Bale better marketability playing for Real Madrid.


It's not true. Real wanted Bale last year, and they're going to try and sign him in every transfer window, unless he gets hurt or suddenly sucks. It's not a "once in a lifetime chance."

And his marketability is debatable. The Prem is bigger thsn La Liga, in Europe and abroad. Look at that giant ad featuring Bale in Times Square for proof.

Lastly, I think it'd be better to stay because he can make himself a legend at Spurs. He can do whatever the hell he wants; that's his team. Real is Ronaldo's tean. Bale is just another piece of the puzzle there.
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