EPTI hope we can get Arsenal's Gedion Zelalem too. He's been impressing in the friendlies and is already drawing comparisons to Cesc Fabregas.
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
I hope we can get Arsenal's Gedion Zelalem too. He's been impressing in the friendlies and is already drawing comparisons to Cesc Fabregas. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 30 2013 04:27 Ysellian wrote: Well Feyenoord won't be inviting Getafe over any time soon that's for sure. Sleegers was only just promoted to the first team from the youth squad and that guy nearly broke his leg. Yeah those always make me cringe, its absurd how much damage that sort of hit can do // | ||
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Mensol
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![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD-M6E9CIAA9960.jpg) oh dear wenger hahahaha | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4177 Posts
any one with the right connections a just a lil bit of talent could be a pro player in europe. I mean this kid is just an average normal player, I think I have personally met 2-3 players who play in amateur leagues here in colombia who are way better tactically than gomis. Another case, The Frank Rijkard days at Barca, there was this player Oleguer Presas, who I never understood or knew how he was in Barca 1st team. He completly sucked balls, was bad technically tactically, in every way possible, but he just was from la cantera and worked his way up. Makes me believe if he was a pro player I could have been too, I mean i was always better than kids my age while grrowing up, but my parents mentality was always, futbol is for fun school and university is 1st.. anyone else have those thoughts? or am I just having mental masturbations? | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
News Reports in Spain this morning suggest Real Madrid are continuing to pursue Gareth Bale and are prepared to pay a world record transfer fee According to Westfalische Rundschau, Borussia Dortmund are considering taking up their option to re-sign Nuri Sahin on a permanent basis The Times are reporting that Manchester United are lining up a £25million move for Real Madrid midfielder Luka Modric Manchester United striker Javier Hernandez has been linked with a move to Valencia in several newspapers as a possible replacement for Roberto Soldado Reports that Arsenal stiker Nicklas Bendtner is set to join Spanish side Malaga, while Gervinho is wanted by Roma Valencia are being linked with a move for Arsenal striker Olivier Giroud as a potential replacement for Roberto Soldado Reports in Portugal are claiming that Benfica left-back Lorenzo Melgarejo will be in Liverpool tomorrow for a medical ahead of a loan move With Newcastle abandoning their attempts to sign Lyon forward Bafetimbi Gomis, the club are expected to step up interest in Loic Remy this week Werder Bremen striker Denni Avdic appears to be a man in demand. According to Kreiszeitung Syke, AZ Alkmaar have made a bid for Avdic, who has also been the subject of an enquiry from fellow Dutch side FC Utrecht Bordeaux have completed the signing of Argentine defender Lucas Orban for a fee of €3.5million (£3m) PSV Eindhoven coach Philip Cocu has confirmed he is hoping to conclude a deal to sign Queens Park Rangers midfielder Park Ji-sung. We’re getting reports from Italy that AC Milan are close to reaching an agreement with city rivals Inter over a deal for Argentina defender Matias Silvestre West Ham have agreed a £3.3m fee with French club Lille for former Chelsea striker Salomon Kalou | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
On July 30 2013 12:11 Mensol wrote: oh dear wenger hahahaha This is priceless... As a Man U fan who is becoming somewhat antsy about transfers this summer, i can't imagine what the Arsenal fans have been going through. | ||
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mavignon
France369 Posts
On July 30 2013 15:00 mAKiTO wrote: So after reading that some team would pay idk how many millions for Gomis, it makes me wonder.. any one with the right connections a just a lil bit of talent could be a pro player in europe. I mean this kid is just an average normal player, I think I have personally met 2-3 players who play in amateur leagues here in colombia who are way better tactically than gomis. Another case, The Frank Rijkard days at Barca, there was this player Oleguer Presas, who I never understood or knew how he was in Barca 1st team. He completly sucked balls, was bad technically tactically, in every way possible, but he just was from la cantera and worked his way up. Makes me believe if he was a pro player I could have been too, I mean i was always better than kids my age while grrowing up, but my parents mentality was always, futbol is for fun school and university is 1st.. anyone else have those thoughts? or am I just having mental masturbations? I don't think you have any idea of what it takes to be a pro and how big the gap is between pros and amateurs. You'd have a better chance trying to be a pro in sc2. And I wonder how many games of Lyon or France you have seen to say that Gomis is tactically bad. | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2109 Posts
On July 30 2013 05:40 Ferrose wrote: Yes! AZ's forward Aron Johannsson has chosen to play for the USA, over Iceland. I hope we can get Arsenal's Gedion Zelalem too. He's been impressing in the friendlies and is already drawing comparisons to Cesc Fabregas. Aron Johansson used to play in my local city club (AGF) before they sold him to AZ  But i don't get what you are saying, does he also have a US passport? | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:18 mavignon wrote: I don't think you have any idea of what it takes to be a pro and how big the gap is between pros and amateurs. You'd have a better chance trying to be a pro in sc2. And I wonder how many games of Lyon or France you have seen to say that Gomis is tactically bad. Not sure if you'd consider it professional or amateur But I have grown up with a friend who is currently in a championship sides academy and has been for about 8 years now, it's interesting because looking back there really wasn't anything special about him, we'd race 100m since we were like 6 and he never won by a great margin only about 1-2 m faster the difference was though and it always occurred on the sports days that if it was 800m 1600m you put him in and he would win because he had stamina He could kick a ball and took some nice free kicks but that was about it, it seems that the defining factor in being scouted (aside from either large amounts of talent or being decent) is how long you can run And commitment his parents drove him 1 1/2 hours to his teams training session that was like 3 hours long twice a week for 8 years Once you're in it seems hard to get dropped because any lacking in technical ability should be remedied by many years of training | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:54 Denzil wrote: Not sure if you'd consider it professional or amateur But I have grown up with a friend who is currently in a championship sides academy and has been for about 8 years now, it's interesting because looking back there really wasn't anything special about him, we'd race 100m since we were like 6 and he never won by a great margin only about 1-2 m faster the difference was though and it always occurred on the sports days that if it was 800m 1600m you put him in and he would win because he had stamina He could kick a ball and took some nice free kicks but that was about it, it seems that the defining factor in being scouted (aside from either large amounts of talent or being decent) is how long you can run And commitment his parents drove him 1 1/2 hours to his teams training session that was like 3 hours long twice a week for 8 years Once you're in it seems hard to get dropped because any lacking in technical ability should be remedied by many years of training Yeah pretty much same thing happened to me in my school years. The kid in my class played for West Brom academy since he was like 8 and was even allowed from year 10 onwawrds (14-16 years old) allowed to leave school for a whole day to do training sessions at West Brom. Being from Worcester it was no trouble for him as he would get the train up. But again he wasn't anything special, was good passer of the ball, played very simple. Fitness he was ahead of everyone, and same again in our Sports Days he would run the 1600m and win comfortably. Nothing else special, then when he left school he got let go and his whole career was ruined. He then dropped all the way from West Brom youth team to Cambridge United reserve team where he played there for 2 seasons until again he got released. Now i think he plays a standard of Saturday afternoon football. Nothing special at all that level, my mates play that and there as good as me, difference is i kinda retired at 18 lol. TLDR: You REALLY REALLY have to be special to make it anywhere in football | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
I mean have you seen rony and messi in their child videos, it's like foreigners vs koreans comparison in starcraft but 10 times more intense. The International 3 in... | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6327 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:54 Denzil wrote: Not sure if you'd consider it professional or amateur But I have grown up with a friend who is currently in a championship sides academy and has been for about 8 years now, it's interesting because looking back there really wasn't anything special about him, we'd race 100m since we were like 6 and he never won by a great margin only about 1-2 m faster the difference was though and it always occurred on the sports days that if it was 800m 1600m you put him in and he would win because he had stamina He could kick a ball and took some nice free kicks but that was about it, it seems that the defining factor in being scouted (aside from either large amounts of talent or being decent) is how long you can run And commitment his parents drove him 1 1/2 hours to his teams training session that was like 3 hours long twice a week for 8 years Once you're in it seems hard to get dropped because any lacking in technical ability should be remedied by many years of training Most people in an academy end up as an amateur not as a pro. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
To become a pro you need at least as much luck as you need skill... In that team I had another friend who was about my skill level and that went to Auxerre youth academy (one of the best at that time) but never made pro. Now I see guys coming from this same academy and they are awful... So : 1) Skill, 2) Luck, 3) POWER OF WILL, 4) REMEMBER THE NAME | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6327 Posts
On July 30 2013 21:39 WillyWanker wrote: I used to play in the same team as Steven N'zonzi when I was about 12-14. He went to the PSG youth academy, he was good but not really special... Now he's a pro and probably above average (I didn't see him play) or even 'good'. To become a pro you need at least as much luck as you need skill... In that team I had another friend who was about my skill level and that went to Auxerre youth academy (one of the best at that time) but never made pro. Now I see guys coming from this same academy and they are awful... So : 1) Skill, 2) Luck, 3) POWER OF WILL, 4) REMEMBER THE NAME Another factor is that some kids just grow faster than others. So at a certain age they're just more fit and stronger than the others at the same age. After a while when you grow up that advantage will disappear and then they can't keep up anymore. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On July 30 2013 19:57 EchoZ wrote: This is priceless... As a Man U fan who is becoming somewhat antsy about transfers this summer, i can't imagine what the Arsenal fans have been going through. I can kind of understand it. I think Wenger is hesitant because he doesn't want to pay these ridiculously inflated prices for players. I'd wager that signing Suarez was Ivan Gazidis' idea. I also think it has to do with his loyalty to the current players at the club. You have Walcott, Giroud, Podolski, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere, Ramsey, and Arteta at the club currently, in any given game three of those guys are going to be on the bench (plus any players that become first-teamers this season, like Yaya Sanogo or Ryo). Wenger thinks those players between them have enough quality to win trophies, and that none of them deserve to be benched, especially for a new signing (which may also explain why players like Diaby keep getting a run in the side, rather than being sold and/or replaced by a new signing). In the end though, I'm sure that whatever happens, Wenger will do what's best for the club. On July 30 2013 20:32 Copymizer wrote: Aron Johansson used to play in my local city club (AGF) before they sold him to AZ But i don't get what you are saying, does he also have a US passport?He was born in the United States. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On July 30 2013 21:48 RvB wrote: Another factor is that some kids just grow faster than others. So at a certain age they're just more fit and stronger than the others at the same age. After a while when you grow up that advantage will disappear and then they can't keep up anymore. LOL perfect example of this is when i played kids football. Played in an awful team to start with was just literally best mates from high school and we had this kid who was 3 x size of anyone else. He gets ball and he holds off everyone with his power, then can hit ball 3 x as hard as anyone and scored. He used to get penalized so much though for "fouls" which clearly weren't just the fact he 3 x size of anyone else xD | ||
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
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