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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
August 09 2013 09:48 GMT
#2321
Why do all sports in America have to be franchise based? Can't you guys just make a normal league with promotion/relegation? I get its a big country but if FC Luch-Energiya can play in the Russian league even though they are a 9 hour flight away from Moscow...
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
August 09 2013 09:50 GMT
#2322
On August 09 2013 18:48 Zeo wrote:
Why do all sports in America have to be franchise based? Can't you guys just make a normal league with promotion/relegation? I get its a big country but if FC Luch-Energiya can play in the Russian league even though they are a 9 hour flight away from Moscow...


money is king over there :/
Imagine a place where the Alps meet the Mediterranean, where you can pick autumn fruits in the morning, bathe in the Adriatic in the afternoon, and go night skiing in the evening…It’s Slovenia!
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 09 2013 10:02 GMT
#2323
It would make a lot of sense for the Americans to run MLS the same way other countries run football leagues. Leave the American franchise based concept for the purely American sports, and 'play ball' with the rest of the world in football. They would 'fit in' better that way.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
August 09 2013 10:56 GMT
#2324
Speaking of franchises, Hull City are dropping "AFC" and becoming the "Hull City Tigers." Sounds like a shitty American franchise name.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
August 09 2013 11:03 GMT
#2325
To be fair, there are plenty of tigers roaming around in Kingston upon Hull...
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
August 09 2013 14:32 GMT
#2326
On August 09 2013 18:48 Zeo wrote:
Why do all sports in America have to be franchise based? Can't you guys just make a normal league with promotion/relegation? I get its a big country but if FC Luch-Energiya can play in the Russian league even though they are a 9 hour flight away from Moscow...

With the way American sports leagues' player drafts and salary caps work, they are designed for parity. Most teams tend to see regression to the mean. So I don't think that really makes sense, unless they change it to a system that promotes more of a permanent pecking order.

Though I agree with the suggestion that the MLS should attempt to follow the model of most global football leagues.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 09 2013 14:59 GMT
#2327
On August 09 2013 19:56 Ferrose wrote:
Speaking of franchises, Hull City are dropping "AFC" and becoming the "Hull City Tigers." Sounds like a shitty American franchise name.


Yeah what the fuck. That's the stupidest thing I've seen in a while!
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 15:15:43
August 09 2013 15:14 GMT
#2328
On August 09 2013 19:02 sc4k wrote:
It would make a lot of sense for the Americans to run MLS the same way other countries run football leagues. Leave the American franchise based concept for the purely American sports, and 'play ball' with the rest of the world in football. They would 'fit in' better that way.


It sounds great in theory, however, you've got to realize that the "original" MLS teams (and those that have come in recently) have dumped literally millions of dollars per team just to get the league up and running. Right now, if you want to enter the MLS as a new expansion team you have to fit a big checklist. This includes coughing up $10 million (I believe) to the league. This is because the original teams started with virtually no support, and just on the hopes and dreams of being successful.

Now if we introduce promotion and relegation, you've got to realize that these teams have no history. So if a current MLS team gets relegated, their support will dwindle significantly. This would more than likely lead to financial ruin. This is the main reason that promotion and relegation is not used in America. If we had started our leagues like most other leagues in the world, promotion and relegation would be fine.

Another knock on promotion and relegation is that it was really only invented because a lot of teams wanted to be in the top league while there were so many spots in said league. While I'm certain that many of the NASL/USL teams would love to be in the MLS, they just don't have the financial backing to do so.

Edit: Although it must be said that the movement away from the drafting system (slightly, it still exists but isn't as important) and towards the youth academies is a step in the "right direction."
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 09 2013 15:26 GMT
#2329
Some reasonable points but what you are saying about clubs losing fans when they get relegated, that happens everywhere.
In terms of the cost, yes it is quite high when you are in a huge country but it seems to be done in Russia and Brazil so it must be possible. Perhaps the cost to join the 'second' division would be cheaper. By the way aren't there already lower divisions in America, just not connected to MLS?

What really should be done is a total relaxation on wages and absolutely no draft system at all. Don't get me wrong, I think the system is excellent for the purely American sports, but it doesn't fit in with the outside countries.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#2330
Woah
Sorry for the AFKness
Thursday i stayed away from the forum due to Chelsea vs Real Madrid was awaiting me at home recorded, then after we got Ronaldo'd i didn't feel like coming on!

However, after reading the last few pages i didn't seem to miss much xD

Im glad Chelsea lost in a way because now Mourinho can show them his tough side and they can get better. We did get well and truly beaten though. Ronaldo was just NOT marked and Ivanovic showed why he shouldn't be a RB defending vs a pacey winger!
Loving Van Ginkel though, damn son he could become VanBommel like. Runs around the pitch makes good tackles and plays the ball off simply, isn't affraid of bomming forward either.

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:57:39
August 09 2013 16:49 GMT
#2331


News


Real Madrid president Florentino Perez has claimed a €100m (£85million) price tag is too much for Tottenham star Gareth Bale.

Jose Mourinho has told Reports "There is no time limit" on Signing Wayne Rooney

Paris Saint-Germain coach Laurent Blanc says he is still keen on Newcastle midfielder Yohan Cabaye and says Tottenham may be too.

Willian could be set for a move to the Premier League. The latest reports are that Manchester City have tabled a bid of around £34million

Liverpool owner John W Henry has told various newspapers that selling wantaway striker Luis Suarez to Arsenal would be "ludicrous"

Rolando has told reporters in Italy that he is ‘very happy to be here, but can’t say anything else’. The Porto centre-back is expected to seal a move to Inter Milan this weekend

Parma have signed full-back Mattia Cassani on loan from Serie A rivals Fiorentina for the 2013-14 campaign.

Left-back Aly Cissokho has told the French media that he's agreed personal terms with Liverpool, but the Reds and his own club Valencia are still thrashing out details of his transfer

Chelsea's teenage prospect Nathan Ake has signed a long-term deal. The 18-year-old

Saint-Etienne are still searching for another forward after selling Gabon striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang to Borussia Dortmund, and they continue to be linked with a move for former West Ham man Carlton Cole.

Toulouse have secured striker Wissam Ben Yedder for the next four years after his spectacular breakthrough campaign.

Marouane Chamakh is due to have a medical at Crystal Palace on Friday ahead of his proposed arrival from Arsenal.

Queens Park Rangers have now confirmed defender Anton Ferdinand has left the club by mutual consentIt. It is thought that he will link up with Antalyaspor.

Lyon forward Lisandro Lopez looks set to join Qatari club Al-Gharafa.

Stoke have agreed to sign New England Revolution's United States international striker Juan Agudelo when his MLS contract expires in January.

ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
August 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#2332
FINALLY the bundesliga is starting again in ~2 hours! wait is over.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:57:21
August 09 2013 16:57 GMT
#2333


Bayern Munchen vs Borussia Monchengladbach

Kick Off 17:30 GMT (+00:00)



Peps first game for points...interesting
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
August 09 2013 16:59 GMT
#2334
thiago is missing sadly .(
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 17:18:33
August 09 2013 17:17 GMT
#2335
games against mönchengladbach are always so close and entertaining. i remember last season's game where it was 3-1 after 18 minutes and in ended 3-4 :D

should be a worthy opening game.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
August 09 2013 17:23 GMT
#2336
wow bundesliga is already starting?? So disciplined, the germans XD
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 17:32:59
August 09 2013 17:32 GMT
#2337
Hey the Dutch started last weekend! Where are our compliments?

(Someone has to keep this one sided rivalry alive)
mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 17:49:44
August 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#2338
if somebody is interested

bayern line-up: Neuer - Lahm, Dante, Boateng, Alaba - Kroos, Schweinsteiger - Müller, Robben, Ribéry, Mandzukic
bench: Starke - van Buyten, Kirchhoff, Rafinha, Shaqiri, Pizarro, Martínez


m'gladbach line-up: Ter Stegen, Jantschke, Daems, Dominguez, Stranzl, Kramer, Xhaka, Herrmann, Raffael, Arango, Kruse
bench: Heimeroth, Korb, Wendt, Nordtveit, Hrgota, Younes, de Jong
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:27:12
August 09 2013 18:22 GMT
#2339
So de Jong sits on the bench?
I really hoped he would finally break through this year, but it appears that his transfer was a bad investment for Gladbach.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:56:00
August 09 2013 18:51 GMT
#2340
What a goal. Amazing ball over the top and sick finish by Robben.

2-0 now, Mandzukic scores a poacher's finish from a rebound on a free kick.
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