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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 09 2013 12:08 GMT
#2661
On October 08 2013 15:52 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 07:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Hey guys what's the difference between overhead press, Military press and front press ( the one Wendler uses in his 5-3-1 as one of the core excercises)


OHP is typically with a shoulder width stance, military press is with the heels together.

Front press is just a weird name that I've never encountered before and I would expect it to mean an OHP, with the bar in front of the neck (as opposed to pressing it from behind your neck/head, which most people should avoid.)


yeah I was just reading up Wendler's 531 and front press came up as one of the 4 core excercises next to squat, deadlift and bench and I assumed it would be just another name for OHP
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 09 2013 13:08 GMT
#2662
I should hope so, or I will have been doing it wrong for a month.

On the topic of OHP, anyone else occasionally get stomach cramps on the last few reps? Or heartburn? Might be my diet, I dunno.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19192 Posts
October 09 2013 14:11 GMT
#2663
It's probably got something to do with all that caviar you guys eat.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 09 2013 17:05 GMT
#2664
Only problem I have with OHP is that starting with relatively heavy weight ( 55kg+) after I unracked the bar and do the first rep my head is kinda dizzy. Probably wrong breathing.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
October 09 2013 17:27 GMT
#2665
Does anyone know how bad heavy deadlifts/squats are for your spine? When I squat heavy I can just feel my spine being compressed which just doesn't feel right :/ It doesn't hurt or anything.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 09 2013 18:26 GMT
#2666
On October 10 2013 02:27 Recognizable wrote:
Does anyone know how bad heavy deadlifts/squats are for your spine? When I squat heavy I can just feel my spine being compressed which just doesn't feel right :/ It doesn't hurt or anything.


What qualifies as heavy and what do you mean by your spine being compressed?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20141 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 19:53:52
October 09 2013 19:53 GMT
#2667
http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/10/03/10-things-need-know-starting-weighlifting/

Pretty much spot on except the drinking LOL

@regognizable yes your spine compresses. No it's not bad provided good form/no injury/etc.

When we put pressure on our spine, the spinal discs release fluid and become thinner (“compressed”); when the pressure is relieved they absorb fluid again and become thicker (“decompressed”).
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 09 2013 19:57 GMT
#2668
On October 10 2013 02:27 Recognizable wrote:
Does anyone know how bad heavy deadlifts/squats are for your spine? When I squat heavy I can just feel my spine being compressed which just doesn't feel right :/ It doesn't hurt or anything.

Properly done they should be fine for your spine, if not good since you're strengthening the stabilizing muscles, bones, and joints associated with the movements. If you're doing it incorrectly though, it could put your spine under serious compression and damage your discs/spine pretty badly. I'm not really an expert on that, but I'm pretty sure that's common sense.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
October 09 2013 21:47 GMT
#2669
On October 10 2013 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
Only problem I have with OHP is that starting with relatively heavy weight ( 55kg+) after I unracked the bar and do the first rep my head is kinda dizzy. Probably wrong breathing.

You should be taking a deep breath before you push and holding it until you've done your rep, then repeat. It's kind of hard to explain but you should be trying to force air out against your closed airway. Imagine what you would do if you were trying to push start a car and it might be easier to visualise. Doing this will stabilise your spine and is the correct breathing technique for heavy lifts, but I don't know how much it will help you with feelings of dizziness. Make sure you get enough breath between reps I guess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valsalva_maneuver
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 22:41:08
October 09 2013 22:38 GMT
#2670
A lot of the time the issue arises from low blood pressure (yeah, low blood pressure). Rippetoe talks about it in Starting Strength, and the important thing when you first unrack the bar is to take it slowly and then push when you feel comfortable. The dizziness/light headedness is (normally) not a bad thing, but it's when you black out and the weight crushes you that it becomes dangerous. It could be from improper breathing too, so try breathing correctly as well. Just know that some people are prone to dizziness with high weight like that.

Also:

3x5 squat @135 lbs
3x5 OHP @75 lbs
1x5 DL @225

I'll try to post some videos on Friday when I squat because I know the form is bad. I just felt like the 135 was a bit heavy and I didn't have great form, so I'm going to stick with it on Friday and post some form videos to clean it up.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 09 2013 22:51 GMT
#2671
Wow your deadlift is so far ahead of your squat.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 09 2013 23:17 GMT
#2672
On October 10 2013 07:51 Najda wrote:
Wow your deadlift is so far ahead of your squat.

Unfortunately one of the effects of not having a squat rack for a while. Also, I'm super back dominant (and quad dominant) when it comes to everything I do, while having relatively weak adductors and glutes. All of this has contributed to a shitty squat and a much better deadlift. I still have a lot of tightness but I just got a new foam roller and will try to stretch every day to gain some more flexibility (already leaps and bounds ahead of what I used to have).

I've been squatting for a week (maybe a bit more?) so for a week I'm not too sad with 135, but I really need to just stall at these weights for a while (on every list) and just focus on form and flexibility I think.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 10 2013 00:23 GMT
#2673
On October 10 2013 07:51 Najda wrote:
Wow your deadlift is so far ahead of your squat.


Not really that relevant with such low weights where form matters more than brute strength.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
October 10 2013 01:07 GMT
#2674
WTF video of the day - (misleading title - this is not just a deadlift)
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 10 2013 01:36 GMT
#2675
Yeah, not really sure whats happening, some sort of stiff legged dead, but that guys an olympic silver medalist. I think he knows what he's doing
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 10 2013 01:45 GMT
#2676
its obviously Snatch Grip Romanian Deadlifts with uneven feet

Just purchased a squat/bench single ply suits, nationals dont have raw division and I plan to win this shit. Also got some very stiff knee wraps.
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 01:52:42
October 10 2013 01:51 GMT
#2677
I like how all of his videos have simple titles "snatch 170" or "clean and push 155", and then you click on the video and see that it's a 170kg snatch from a 4 inch deficit and a fucking 350lb strict OHP that he just decided to rip off of the floor first.

EDIT: hell yeah Gotunk! I got some blue Rehband knee sleeves in today. Not as sexy as your stuff, but they're supposed to be good so I can't wait to try them out.
I deadlift for Aiur
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#2678
On October 10 2013 10:45 GoTuNk! wrote:
its obviously Snatch Grip Romanian Deadlifts with uneven feet

Just purchased a squat/bench single ply suits, nationals dont have raw division and I plan to win this shit. Also got some very stiff knee wraps.


Why would you want uneven feet?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
October 10 2013 02:58 GMT
#2679
Rumor has it one leg is slightly shorter than the other - whatever the case is, it's evidently most comfortable for him, and obviously not a serious detriment.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 05:55:44
October 10 2013 05:51 GMT
#2680
On October 10 2013 11:34 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 10:45 GoTuNk! wrote:
its obviously Snatch Grip Romanian Deadlifts with uneven feet

Just purchased a squat/bench single ply suits, nationals dont have raw division and I plan to win this shit. Also got some very stiff knee wraps.


Why would you want uneven feet?


Anyone who's not one of the best olympic lifters in the world? You wouldn't.

Dmitry Klokov? The rules do not apply.

My best guess is He's just trying to better target one side. Maybe he feels his pull is off in one direction. Maybe Vitruvian is right. The world will never know, unless you want to go to one of the seminars he's doing and you speak Russian.

One of them is ten miles from my house. Six months ago there wasn't even a gym there. Gotta love Crossfit.
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